Medical Grade
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See how thin the leaves are in trapt1's picture, that is believable sativa or sativa dominant strain.
30ish Yr old Columbian Gold Seed Sprouts. Do I Want it to be a Male or Female?
- Thread starter Timmahh
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Had to rediscover my username/pw for this epic thread. Timmah, nice work my brother, I'm pulling for you and the greenies. Earlier in the thread I was watching as some younger posters weren't sure why the interest in this grow? It's simple really, to many of us OG-types, CG was simply the best shit you could find back then. The fanciest grow ops of the day were twisted fluorescents in someone's closet or some seeds dropped in someones yard. Neither very good strategies for maintaining these strain lines 
The possibility of one of the best sativas of my generation making a resurgence is the stuff of legends and worthy of an epic thread.
I'm skeptical that it would turn out just as the original CG just because I was always under the impression that the color and aroma were mainly due to the way the stuff was cured up in the lumbo mts. Some of the hightimes shots of the day actually showed these burly badboys in Columbia, sitting on a hill, and an actual gold color to the leaves and colas just about the way it showed up in the bricks and baggies. I don't think the flavor, effect, color, and aroma had anything to do with the paraquat that was going on at the time because IIRC, the real CG pre-dated the paraquat fiascos.
That said, I can settle this right now. When these are finally ready, real CG had a couple of very distinct properties that I remember.
1) It was orange and gold, period. I'm not talking water leaf yellow, this shit was inside out orange and gold. If you had any trim or shake in a bag, it looked like no. 2 pencil shavings.
2) The real CG is near impossible to hold without losing your hit. Seriously. You would take a big rip of this shit and it would just knock your lungs into next week. You'd immediately feel the expanding in your lungs and would soon after be barking like a dog.
3) Had an amazing taste it's hard to explain because there just isn't anything like it anymore.
At any rate, I've sub'd too and am looking forward to more updates man. Thanks for keeping all of us in the loop and giving some old-schoolers a bit of hope
The possibility of one of the best sativas of my generation making a resurgence is the stuff of legends and worthy of an epic thread.I'm skeptical that it would turn out just as the original CG just because I was always under the impression that the color and aroma were mainly due to the way the stuff was cured up in the lumbo mts. Some of the hightimes shots of the day actually showed these burly badboys in Columbia, sitting on a hill, and an actual gold color to the leaves and colas just about the way it showed up in the bricks and baggies. I don't think the flavor, effect, color, and aroma had anything to do with the paraquat that was going on at the time because IIRC, the real CG pre-dated the paraquat fiascos.
That said, I can settle this right now. When these are finally ready, real CG had a couple of very distinct properties that I remember.
1) It was orange and gold, period. I'm not talking water leaf yellow, this shit was inside out orange and gold. If you had any trim or shake in a bag, it looked like no. 2 pencil shavings.
2) The real CG is near impossible to hold without losing your hit. Seriously. You would take a big rip of this shit and it would just knock your lungs into next week. You'd immediately feel the expanding in your lungs and would soon after be barking like a dog.
3) Had an amazing taste it's hard to explain because there just isn't anything like it anymore.
At any rate, I've sub'd too and am looking forward to more updates man. Thanks for keeping all of us in the loop and giving some old-schoolers a bit of hope
Timmahh
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thats how i remember it Z. put your dick in the dirt and leave you wanton for more.
time for some updated pics. the more it goes, the more im left with the impression its going to be more of a indica plant. other than when new/young, the leaf structure just seems to be to broad to be a full sativa, let alone an old school land race CG. But im not fully sure, which is why im here, in this thread, seeking informed opinions.
as i have noted, the seed is 30 yrs old. i was sure this was a CG, but now i have to doubt my own recolection of which seeds i had in my stash. with that said, it was certainly a killer dank from the day, so even if its an old school indica, it should be a pretty pure line. thus why im growing one cut out atm, to send off to be tested for the norms, tch, cbd/cbn ect. but also i want to send some to be genetically tested to find actual lineage ( or as close to as i can)
on to pics
here is Sprout today she is about 2.5 ft tall now. healthy, and looking good.
the 2 in the red cups are the last cuts from her. (there is also Early Pearl, Durbin Poisen, DP WW, BigBud, and now some SLH in veg with her for company).
and here is her test cutting in bloom. today would be starting week 4 of bloom i think
well, thats where we are at today. still holding hope it is a CG, just being old, it need to get larger in actual size (longer veg, ect) to be large enough for the true long thin leaves to grow out. seems the larger the leaves get, the longer and thinner they become.
time for some updated pics. the more it goes, the more im left with the impression its going to be more of a indica plant. other than when new/young, the leaf structure just seems to be to broad to be a full sativa, let alone an old school land race CG. But im not fully sure, which is why im here, in this thread, seeking informed opinions.
as i have noted, the seed is 30 yrs old. i was sure this was a CG, but now i have to doubt my own recolection of which seeds i had in my stash. with that said, it was certainly a killer dank from the day, so even if its an old school indica, it should be a pretty pure line. thus why im growing one cut out atm, to send off to be tested for the norms, tch, cbd/cbn ect. but also i want to send some to be genetically tested to find actual lineage ( or as close to as i can)
on to pics
here is Sprout today she is about 2.5 ft tall now. healthy, and looking good.
the 2 in the red cups are the last cuts from her. (there is also Early Pearl, Durbin Poisen, DP WW, BigBud, and now some SLH in veg with her for company).
and here is her test cutting in bloom. today would be starting week 4 of bloom i think
well, thats where we are at today. still holding hope it is a CG, just being old, it need to get larger in actual size (longer veg, ect) to be large enough for the true long thin leaves to grow out. seems the larger the leaves get, the longer and thinner they become.
Justcallmedude
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Wow, what a thread! I honestly didn't think it would make it this far, best of luck the rest of the way. Slow wide turns brother~~~dude
kmksrh21
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I'm smoking on NL now... But it's like NL #5 or some shit.... an early gen. NL would be awesome... I was rootin for the CG, funny how you doubt your certainty as the grow goes on, frickin' stoners! Haha Either way a 30 year old seed has got to be some rare strain. Whether you're sure of it or not I look forward to test results when you get to that point. Been with ya from the beginning, gonna stick with it til' the end. Great job and great updates Timmahh!! ~~Happy Grown
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Timmahh
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ty for the words of encouragement. always good to hear.
my doubts are rising mostly due to the look of the plant as it grows. just doesnt have that Sat look i expected at this point.
but im far from disapointed. as noted, any 30 yr old seed that was good back then, has to be something highly usefull, since the last 25 yrs of strain polution thats been going on.
i still have approximatly 10 old school seeds yet, so ive not given up all hope. but as far as this sprout goes, i have my reservations of it actaully being a CG now. but no worries, cuz is all good!
my doubts are rising mostly due to the look of the plant as it grows. just doesnt have that Sat look i expected at this point.
but im far from disapointed. as noted, any 30 yr old seed that was good back then, has to be something highly usefull, since the last 25 yrs of strain polution thats been going on.
i still have approximatly 10 old school seeds yet, so ive not given up all hope. but as far as this sprout goes, i have my reservations of it actaully being a CG now. but no worries, cuz is all good!
Milovan
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High Times Mag wrote a big spread on the strains from
back in the day. Colombian Gold, Panama Red etc...and it was
said that back then in Columbia and the reason for the actual gold
color of the buds was due to the fact that at the beginning of outdoor harvests the Colombians
tied the plants around the middle with rope a bit tight to bunch then up a little
then they chopped the bottom stalks from the ground and left the plants to dry out
in the golden sun for a few days. Along with type of soil and conditions in Columbia, this is where the color
gold came from that gave the strain the certain unmistakable taste. As a teen in L.A. back in the mid '70s I was
getting single ounces at $60 and the color was far more yellow then gold. Pretty much pure yellow.
Very very true! No other bud
was anything like it.
As you know with any kind of classic strain, Colombian Gold seeds would have to be grown in their Country of origin to turn out as real Colombian Gold without a doubt.
A close friend of mine for the past thirty years that grows and lives in Humboldt got a
hold of some Thai seeds from a friend that had just returned from Thailand and
grew the seeds up there using Fox Farm etc.. and the buds came out nothing like the original
Thai including taste, smell, high etc...
Also back in the mid 70's in L.A., out of Thailand came Thai Stick (brownish gold) at $10 a stick, opiated Thai stick (brownish gold and oily),
Thai bud loose (Brown goldish buds), Buddha Thai bud loose (real gold color).
Still if grown elsewhere it should still be very exiting, rare and super tasty and high.
back in the day. Colombian Gold, Panama Red etc...and it was
said that back then in Columbia and the reason for the actual gold
color of the buds was due to the fact that at the beginning of outdoor harvests the Colombians
tied the plants around the middle with rope a bit tight to bunch then up a little
then they chopped the bottom stalks from the ground and left the plants to dry out
in the golden sun for a few days. Along with type of soil and conditions in Columbia, this is where the color
gold came from that gave the strain the certain unmistakable taste. As a teen in L.A. back in the mid '70s I was
getting single ounces at $60 and the color was far more yellow then gold. Pretty much pure yellow.
Very very true! No other bud
was anything like it.
As you know with any kind of classic strain, Colombian Gold seeds would have to be grown in their Country of origin to turn out as real Colombian Gold without a doubt.
A close friend of mine for the past thirty years that grows and lives in Humboldt got a
hold of some Thai seeds from a friend that had just returned from Thailand and
grew the seeds up there using Fox Farm etc.. and the buds came out nothing like the original
Thai including taste, smell, high etc...
Also back in the mid 70's in L.A., out of Thailand came Thai Stick (brownish gold) at $10 a stick, opiated Thai stick (brownish gold and oily),
Thai bud loose (Brown goldish buds), Buddha Thai bud loose (real gold color).
Still if grown elsewhere it should still be very exiting, rare and super tasty and high.
I am intrigued but I'm with Timmah in regards to the look of the strain. Here's a pic I found google searching for it that says its of Santa Marta lineage. Even using advanced and modern grow technique, you can see the classic thin, light green sativa leaves. I'm still dying to know what comes out of a 30 year old seed. I mean, at that age growing dope was still a blossoming science so it's entirely possible T comes up with an even more mind-smashing version of what the original seed came from 
Timmahh
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me also, which is why i posted. as i noted, its certainly an idica. same rules apply for me though. grow some out for testing ect. im SURE it ll still be some put your dick in the dirt digity dank.
so im developing an issue. one person posted on it. but id like a few more thoughts before i go forward.
im loosing lower growth by the botton. about 3 nodes have died off now. going to transplant tomorrow, as im thinking possible root bound could be happening. its about 27 inches tall, in a 3 gallon pot, but im only guessing atm. i ll get a pic up in a few, but i had to re install xp on my desky, so when its all set back up, i ll add pics. ect.
but they bottom braches seem to be drying up, but its not dry. maybe root rot perhaps? what should i look for as i transplant?
so im developing an issue. one person posted on it. but id like a few more thoughts before i go forward.
im loosing lower growth by the botton. about 3 nodes have died off now. going to transplant tomorrow, as im thinking possible root bound could be happening. its about 27 inches tall, in a 3 gallon pot, but im only guessing atm. i ll get a pic up in a few, but i had to re install xp on my desky, so when its all set back up, i ll add pics. ect.
but they bottom braches seem to be drying up, but its not dry. maybe root rot perhaps? what should i look for as i transplant?
qwigo
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pics would help as its hard to guess but it sounds a bit like underwatering. post some pics a.s.a.p. make sure when your watering that the soil is getting wet at the bottom of the pot
Timmahh
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pics.
you can see it looks pretty nice and healthy on top. but the bottom foot of the stem has lost all the limbs.
and a pic of the 2 cuttings i took 3 weeks ago.
was going to transplant this weekend, but im out of medium, and the shop was closed for the holiday.
so i ll have to tp next weekend now. hope it does ok for now.
anyways folks. give me a few ideas as to whats happening.
it MAY be underwatering. im gone thru the week, and the babysetting may not be giving her enouh water while im out of town.
thats the 1st thing that comes to my mind, considering im aware of the day to day life of the girl.
you can see it looks pretty nice and healthy on top. but the bottom foot of the stem has lost all the limbs.
and a pic of the 2 cuttings i took 3 weeks ago.
was going to transplant this weekend, but im out of medium, and the shop was closed for the holiday.
so i ll have to tp next weekend now. hope it does ok for now.
anyways folks. give me a few ideas as to whats happening.
it MAY be underwatering. im gone thru the week, and the babysetting may not be giving her enouh water while im out of town.
thats the 1st thing that comes to my mind, considering im aware of the day to day life of the girl.
robert 14617
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ditto...............30 years ago columbian gold was more or less a mexican sativa what you have is mostly indica so how would you explain that
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Timmahh
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well, if your an the Express fanboy, that totally explains your lack of reading thru the thread.
as noted earlier, i didnt label the beans back then. i wasnt a breeder, i was just a kid that got some killer seeds and tossed them into an old insulated cup with a few others i had. I had thought these were the old CG seeds, was actually pretty confident of it, but obviously, like my choice for a wife, it was a mistake on my part. heh. so while i can say ok, its not a CG, i can say with 100% certainty, the seeds are pretty much 30 yrs old. though i do have another stash somewhere with some newer beans, i havent found them yet.
i too agree, as my post JUST ABOVE YOUR SAYS, (but again, if you think like the express, this is no surpise to me, your post that is), its pretty obvious, its not a Sativa, thus not a CG. One needs to read the full thread to get the the end. your posting on first page info. lol 10,050 posts and one would think you would be intelligent enough to read the thread in its entirty, Prior to posting useless drival. Point being, if you would have been a big boy, and read thru the thread, you would of been AWARE that i always questioned the CG claim. Infact, i believe that is one of the things i first posted on, was my standing doubt i had about which of my old school beans sprouted. Again, had you READ thru the tread, then you would of understoon how much of a mute point your post is. So due to the timing and nature of your post, not to mention firmly asociating yourself with the express, and being the idiot he is, I am led to believe you, like express, are just a troll, trolling for troll boogers.
as noted earlier, i didnt label the beans back then. i wasnt a breeder, i was just a kid that got some killer seeds and tossed them into an old insulated cup with a few others i had. I had thought these were the old CG seeds, was actually pretty confident of it, but obviously, like my choice for a wife, it was a mistake on my part. heh. so while i can say ok, its not a CG, i can say with 100% certainty, the seeds are pretty much 30 yrs old. though i do have another stash somewhere with some newer beans, i havent found them yet.
i too agree, as my post JUST ABOVE YOUR SAYS, (but again, if you think like the express, this is no surpise to me, your post that is), its pretty obvious, its not a Sativa, thus not a CG. One needs to read the full thread to get the the end. your posting on first page info. lol 10,050 posts and one would think you would be intelligent enough to read the thread in its entirty, Prior to posting useless drival. Point being, if you would have been a big boy, and read thru the thread, you would of been AWARE that i always questioned the CG claim. Infact, i believe that is one of the things i first posted on, was my standing doubt i had about which of my old school beans sprouted. Again, had you READ thru the tread, then you would of understoon how much of a mute point your post is. So due to the timing and nature of your post, not to mention firmly asociating yourself with the express, and being the idiot he is, I am led to believe you, like express, are just a troll, trolling for troll boogers.
robert 14617
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lol at you , i think it was your ex's poor choice from what i see from your choice of words
Timmahh
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ok yep, you are a troll, as i suspected. but to refute your idiocrasy, i ll play along.
You wish to pass judgement for what "you" consider, a poor choice of words. Really. that is all you have? Come now dear fellow. You can not just judge the book by the mere title alone. A books title is just a catchy phrase to draw ones attention to it. But the title is just that, only a Title. The heart of the book, is what is between the covers.
A Catcher in the Rye is hardly an adequate, and envisioning title, when you compare it to the entire book as a whole. Can you not agree?
So by that same relative thought process, can you not conceed, your same judgement of me, is simularly as ludicrist as discounting any books content, by its mere cover read.
but to put it bluntly, as i dont follow PC ways or though processes, becuz i dont type like a published author, or do not have the 10,050 post you do, then i must be a liar, and therefore, my posts are not worthy of your participation. Which is fine with me,
if you dont like what i type, SHUT THE FUCK UP, and dont read my thread.
if you think my ex had the bad choice, tell ya what, you can HAVE HER, im positive her current husband will be happy to pack her shit and send it and HER, out to you. thank god my daughter is in my custody is all i have to say about it.
You wish to pass judgement for what "you" consider, a poor choice of words. Really. that is all you have? Come now dear fellow. You can not just judge the book by the mere title alone. A books title is just a catchy phrase to draw ones attention to it. But the title is just that, only a Title. The heart of the book, is what is between the covers.
A Catcher in the Rye is hardly an adequate, and envisioning title, when you compare it to the entire book as a whole. Can you not agree?
So by that same relative thought process, can you not conceed, your same judgement of me, is simularly as ludicrist as discounting any books content, by its mere cover read.
but to put it bluntly, as i dont follow PC ways or though processes, becuz i dont type like a published author, or do not have the 10,050 post you do, then i must be a liar, and therefore, my posts are not worthy of your participation. Which is fine with me,
if you dont like what i type, SHUT THE FUCK UP, and dont read my thread.
if you think my ex had the bad choice, tell ya what, you can HAVE HER, im positive her current husband will be happy to pack her shit and send it and HER, out to you. thank god my daughter is in my custody is all i have to say about it.
robert 14617
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do you have any pictures of your daughter