Need opinions on seeds from a self pollinated hermie!

[ez profit]

Need some opinions here!! I have heard about 3 different things about seeds from a self pollinated hermie! Some say they will be a mix of female and hermie seeds, some say they will all be hermie, and then all female!! So I do not know what to believe!! Any experienced growers/breeders out there that can give me a little insight on this matter!! Any advice is appreciated!!

Also, not certain of the strain, but in the beginning I tried to stress it to herm! Cause ph was way low and temps got up to 90 a couple days while I was at work then also gave it 12 extra hours of dark before goin to 12/12 trying to get a herm to self pollinate for fem seeds, but now I am not sure they will be!!! Please help!!!

 

[jordan293]

They will be all hermie if a herm pollinates itself but they will all be feminised if a herm pollinates a regular female

 

[tommyo3000]

I once had a plant that I stressed into hermaphrodism. The seeds that came from this were female but also sensitive to turning hermie just like the plant they came from.

 

[ez profit]

So tommyo3000 if I keep the environment suitable and pretty much stress free I should have a high ratio of females??

 

[tommyo3000]

When I did it, I don't recall having any males from those seeds.
I think you'll end up with similar plants to the mother plant.. and yes, keeping the stress off should keep the hermy tendencies from coming out.
I am curious, though, to see your results.

 

[ez profit]

Jordan293 i knew someone who took two clones from a female mother and stressed one to herm! Then he took the herm and pollinated it with the female and got 85-90% fem, but wouldn't that basically be self pollination being they came from the same mother with he same characteristics??

 

[ez profit]

Well tommyo3000 I have harvested and now have 8 germinating!! I am excited to see what happens also!! Thanks for responding!! I will post when I have some kind of results!!

 

[napa23]

i'm interested in seeing this play out

 

[darkdestruction420]

I've had no luck attempting to use seeds made through self pollination like that. Genetic hermies really really suck, so do plants that are extremely sensitive to going hermie from stress. You wont get any males though. I would not use them myself.
Also, A seed from a female that is pollinated by a hermie is not automatically female. You wont get any males, but its still quite possible to get a few hermies. When you say "Also, not certain of the strain, but in the beginning I tried to stress it to herm! Cause ph was way low and temps got up to 90 a couple days while I was at work then also gave it 12 extra hours of dark before goin to 12/12 trying to get a herm to self pollinate for fem seeds, "
Do you mean you expected the high temps and low ph to cause a hermie? In my experience testing stuff like this the only thing ive seen cause it is light stress. 12 extra hrs of dark b4 flowering would not do it either as what causes hermies w/light stress is the interupption of the dark period/light leaks as it messes up the amount of flowering hormone(which is destroyed by light) and the plant gets scared thinking it missed its chance to breed so in desperation will go hermie to try to still breed. If you want to make fem seeds and only have 1 plant what you need to do is make some colodial silver and spray it on the plant to make it make balls. The balls will be deformed and you'll have to harvest and apply the pollen yourself. you can pollinate only a few branches and end up w/a ton of seeds while the rest of the plant isnt all seedy. That kind of self pollination is alot more stable.

 

[Vapekush]

Hey, darkdestruction420. How do you make cololdial silver? Can you just use the stuff they sell as a health supplement? Is making it going to give me some disease from breathing the ingredients?

 

[Vapekush]

And sorry to jack your thread with that question but it just seemed to fit.

My exp with hermie seeds is that you will get more hermies that are similar to the original. As long as they're not crazy hermed with more balls and seed than bud then I don't think they're all that bad. You still get nice smoke and the few seeds you do find will produce more slightly seeded bud to keep you going and growing for free.

 

[ez profit]

Thanks all for your replies and advice ! Wish me luck!! I hope this works!! Will post with my results! Any other opinions??

 

[canefan]

Hermies just aren't worth the effort IMHO anywhere within a breeding program or for that matter just chuckin' pollen. You may or may not get any males, growing out enough seeds you will get a few males or least I have. A couple of years ago I had a beautiful plant which hermied do to a flood light that was just bright enough for an outside plant to hermie, allowed her to pollinate a few branches and another plant.
The plant with no relation to the hermie made seeds which produced lots of females and lots and lots of unstressed hermies, the hermie plant itself was a mess, it hermied again in all stages of flower.
IMHO just not worth the risk unless you have a totally seperate grow area to keep the plants you know are prone to hermie. Ends up as just another trait you have to breed away from which takes much more time and effort than I consider worthwhile. That being said it is a great learning tool if you have the time and space.

 

[dman8168]

well from my personal experiences hermies are a crap shoot. BUT i have been experimenting with some herms. heres what i have found. 10 bag seed ,5 from regular old mexican brick weed,and 5 from some grapefruit. the mexican brick weed was pretty seedy as you could tell no one took care of it.the grapefruit was outstanding weed and over a 6 month period managed to find 5. the seeds were buried deep in the buds. also upon examination of the trichs they were 25% cloudy 75%amber couchlock dope.I have grown out both sets of seeds to this result 5 mexi swag = 1fem,4hermi 5 grapefruit = 5 fem no hermi. Now the only thing that happened was the last two grapefruit fems were destroyed at week 5 of flower,due to a bad powere surge which destroyed my timer,fans etc and cured and dried my girls on the stalk overnight. my last grapefruit hits the dirt today. I say all this to come to this conclusion. If the plants hermi because of stress related issues and hermis seeds will carry this to other offspring,if its because left on plant too long and self pollinates then it does not pass this on perse its hard wired to do this to further the species.

 

[ez profit]

Quick update! Took 75 of the seeds that came from the hermie and 52 popped! Used "just right" soil and had them under metal halides 18/6 for a month. Switched bulbs went to 12/12 and I couldn't believe it! 7 days in on 12/12 and 34 of 52 were female and the other 18 were a mix of males and hermies! So I would have to say that if a female hermies and and you see it through the seeds should be mostly female in my experience , well with this paticular strain anyway! Again not sure what strain! Just updating on how my little experiment went! Feel free to comment or add any opinions! Thanks!

 

[watchhowIdoit]

Jordan293 i knew someone who took two clones from a female mother and stressed one to herm! Then he took the herm and pollinated it with the female and got 85-90% fem, but wouldn't that basically be self pollination being they came from the same mother with he same characteristics??

The mother plant was not stressed to the point of hermi as the cuttings were. So they do not share the same characteristics.
And in my experience seeds from a self pollinated plant only grows headaches........

 

[Pat the stoner]

I wouldn't waste my time on any herme plants . In the past it just messed up my grow and then some of the pollen ended up remaining somehow , got on to these really nice females I had and seeded them . It ruined the next grow too . I would be careful not to have any pollen around unless it was from a high grade that I was breeding . That pollen can be hard to get rid of.

 

[SCARHOLE]

I have grown hermi seeds that didn't hermi.
But if your breeding they suck ass an could ruin your work.

I'd plant em outdoor next year (plants don't hermi as much there)
or give em to friends for first grows?

I use the grumpy old dreamers method for colloidal silver.
Search for it.

 

[obijohn]

What is colodial silver?

 

[SCARHOLE]

Oops my stoned ass forgot the sentence.
"I get my free fem seeds from Colloidal silver."

Its silver particles suspended in water.
Used for reversing sex of female plants to get pollen to make fem seeds.
I make it with a old cell charger, 2 alligator clips an 2 pieces of pure silver.
Plug it in for 12 hrs an apply to plant or branch for 2 weeks befor flip an it will make pollen.
That pollen will make fem seeds.

CS dosent stress hermi he plant.
It blocks the plants ability to make female flowers, essentially it's pure male.
Not a stress Hermi.

My friend the GrumpyOldDreamer 's thread her on it explains it all much better.