Dave's 2nd Grow - LSD in Bubble/DWC with Fogger

[dajosh42069]

They are, but aren't nearly as potent. The beautiful thing about as much plant as you have there. Is that you have the option to use all your clippings (the little star leaves coming out of the buds, which will be covered in trichs) to make things like hash, cannabutter, or, you can simply mix it in with your buds, or keep them when you get low.
Personally, I recommend cannabutter. Cannabis has a different, stronger, longer lasting body high when you eat is as compared to smoking it. With cannabutter, and confection that uses butter, you can use to make cannabis treats. They will have a slight cannabis taste, and get you very high. Best for when you don't wanna carry your meds places with you while you drive. But be careful eating and driving on it, cause it's a not the same high as smoking gets you. Some prefer it. Haven't met anyone yet who disliked it.

Either way, they ARE good, and you have many options from them. The FAN leaves though, not as much. You COULD smoke them if you were in a serious pinch, but the THC content is extremely low compared to the buds and their clippings.

 

[dajosh42069]

Thanks guys. I've been really torn about buying an HID lamp because of the problems that I've had with airy, small buds in this grow. And I'd love to get the kind of yields that SCOTTYBALLS gets. But I've been afraid that it will be too hot for my cabinet unless I somehow route an exhaust duct through the light's housing. Might need a second fan for that? My fear is that the two fans together will get too loud and ruin the stealthiness of my setup. Otherwise, I'd be in favor of buying an HID lamp all the way.

Would the exhaust fan for the lamp housing need to be fairly powerful or would a couple of computer fans work? I'm guessing that I'd need something more like my ceiling fan, which pulls 150 cfm. That will require a big rip-up of my system in order to route another duct, but if I can find a small inline fan that will do the trick, then I think I might be able to figure something out. What I'm thinking of will take a lot of work, though.

Btw, You can connect the ducting to your attic, and put a Stany Blowerfan up there to suck out there air. They're pretty quiet, are only about 45 or so bucks on amazon, and are only about 30 bucks to mod. I made mine easy and it worked great til the cops came. It moves ALOT of air though, and has 3 settings. Some people put them up, and leave them running nonstop for years. Even with the intake sealed off (so it intakes completely through 1 side).

The mods are easy to find, just search "Stanly Blowerfan Mod" and it'll give you dozens of examples. You can have the whole system in the attic, pulling from the fans intake, out of your cabinet, and into the roof area. And if your worried about smell, you simply keep it on HIGH and add a carbon filter, though...those can get expensive.

 

[daveroller]

They are, but aren't nearly as potent. The beautiful thing about as much plant as you have there. Is that you have the option to use all your clippings (the little star leaves coming out of the buds, which will be covered in trichs) to make things like hash, cannabutter, or, you can simply mix it in with your buds, or keep them when you get low.
Personally, I recommend cannabutter. Cannabis has a different, stronger, longer lasting body high when you eat is as compared to smoking it. With cannabutter, and confection that uses butter, you can use to make cannabis treats. They will have a slight cannabis taste, and get you very high. Best for when you don't wanna carry your meds places with you while you drive. But be careful eating and driving on it, cause it's a not the same high as smoking gets you. Some prefer it. Haven't met anyone yet who disliked it.

Either way, they ARE good, and you have many options from them. The FAN leaves though, not as much. You COULD smoke them if you were in a serious pinch, but the THC content is extremely low compared to the buds and their clippings.

Great advice, Josh, and that gave me an idea... I'll be going back to the hospital for a long stay after I have some surgery and I know that I'll need something to treat my pain while I'm there. And even oxy and percoset take about an hour before they start working. SO.... I might just make some hash goodies before I go in and bring them with me. Ha ha!! The nurses will never know. Not unless I start laughing at silly things while my eyes look like slits. But that will be the perfect situation for hash cookies, because I'd never get away with smoking in a hospital bed. Thanks for the idea, man!

 

[dajosh42069]

There's hash, and cannabutter. You wanna make the butter and use it to make the cookies. Should work great! Good luck man!

 

[daveroller]

Btw, You can connect the ducting to your attic, and put a Stany Blowerfan up there to suck out there air. They're pretty quiet, are only about 45 or so bucks on amazon, and are only about 30 bucks to mod. I made mine easy and it worked great til the cops came. It moves ALOT of air though, and has 3 settings. Some people put them up, and leave them running nonstop for years. Even with the intake sealed off (so it intakes completely through 1 side).

The mods are easy to find, just search "Stanly Blowerfan Mod" and it'll give you dozens of examples. You can have the whole system in the attic, pulling from the fans intake, out of your cabinet, and into the roof area. And if your worried about smell, you simply keep it on HIGH and add a carbon filter, though...those can get expensive.

That sounds like a great idea, Josh. Then the fan noise will be in the attic. Here in Minnesota we put a really thick layer of insulation on our attic floors, so that will act as a great sound barrier. So far the odor from my plant hasn't escaped where anyone could smell it, but even if it did, I'd just say that a skunk was in the neighborhood. (I saw a skunk nosing around my house before.)

The great thing about this is that I'll be able to use a 400 watt hps light for flowering on my next grow!

Thanks! Your advice is fuckin' golden!

 

[daveroller]

There's hash, and cannabutter. You wanna make the butter and use it to make the cookies. Should work great! Good luck man!

Yup, I'll make cannabutter like you recommended. Then cookies from that. I'll have to google it to learn how to make that stuff.

 

[dajosh42069]

Glad I could help.

 

[daveroller]

Looks like my buds, pathetic as they are, are still growing a bit. I added lots of water to the res and 10 ml of Liquid KoolBloom yesterday evening. Looks like she drank at least a half gallon in one day, maybe more. Buds are still loose, but they aren't getting any looser and they've gotten bigger this week.

This is day 49...

By the book, she should be about 2 weeks from harvest.

Here's a zoomed-out view of her:

Here are some bud closeups:

and some bud clusters:

and here's a tiny new bud:

 

[dajosh42069]

I have pulled on off and checked inside for developing seeds? Have you been inspecting for little ball sacks? They look good, good trich development, but yeah, a bit airy, and the seed bods look faaaat, which is why I ask if you've checked.

She's most likely fine, just recovering from the heat stress. What are your temps like in there now?

 

[daveroller]

Btw, You can connect the ducting to your attic, and put a Stany Blowerfan up there to suck out there air. They're pretty quiet, are only about 45 or so bucks on amazon, and are only about 30 bucks to mod. I made mine easy and it worked great til the cops came. It moves ALOT of air though, and has 3 settings. Some people put them up, and leave them running nonstop for years. Even with the intake sealed off (so it intakes completely through 1 side).

The mods are easy to find, just search "Stanly Blowerfan Mod" and it'll give you dozens of examples. You can have the whole system in the attic, pulling from the fans intake, out of your cabinet, and into the roof area. And if your worried about smell, you simply keep it on HIGH and add a carbon filter, though...those can get expensive.

Say Josh... just out of curiosity, why did the cops bust you? Was it before it was legal to grow your own? You live in CA, right?

 

[daveroller]

I have pulled on off and checked inside for developing seeds? Have you been inspecting for little ball sacks? They look good, good trich development, but yeah, a bit airy, and the seed bods look faaaat, which is why I ask if you've checked.

She's most likely fine, just recovering from the heat stress. What are your temps like in there now?

So the little ball sacks would be inside of the round pods? Geez, I hope I don't get seeds. I'll have to look inside of some of those tomorrow after the lights come back on. So far I've only seen the white hairs coming out of those pods.

I'm pretty sure that my grow cabinet has stayed under 80 degrees tops, and only that high for a couple of hours... when I've been around at least. Usually it's 78 or below...

>> Except I know that when I was in the hospital it got much hotter for possibly one or two days, because the circuit breaker on the AC tripped and the wife didn't know how to fix it, nor did she ask me how... (Women!) I overlooked it at the time because I was so sick, but we had some very hot days while I was in the hospital.

Edit:
Now that I look back on the incident, I think that our house might have been in the mid-80's for at least one day, so the cabinet could have been in the upper 80's or maybe even a little higher for a day or two. At the time I was just happy that the plant survived and forgot about the heat until now.

 

[dajosh42069]

Ok, the sacks won't be in the pods, seeds would be in the pods if it was pollinated. Just look up and down the smaller (non wooden) branches and if you see anything other then buds, leaves, and FEMALE flowers, then take a pic and lemme see.

Otherwise, temps are ok, no worries there. Upper 80's for a day or 2 shouldn't be any big thing. Hopefully the buds will level off. But foxtailing is a trait of heat stress. So it WAS hot in there for awhile. The white hairs are all you will see. They don't grow from buds. They usually will be on either side of a bud site. I didn't notice any in the pictures you posted, though I will look again more closely.

 

[daveroller]

Fuckin' SEEDS!!!

Today I opened up a few of the fatter pods in my buds to look for seeds (on Josh's advice) and here's what I found.

First, here are some of the big, round pods that I tore off:

And here are all of the seeds that I found inside of them:

She must have gotten some hermies while I was in the hospital. That's probably when the plant had the most stress. We had one or two days here that were 100 degrees and the air conditioner wasn't working. By the time I got home to fix it, it was probably too late. (It was 85 in the house when I got home.)

Never did see anything hanging down from the flowers like nutsacks, but that could be due to my eyesight being shot for looking at anything close up (old age). Maybe I didn't know what to look for either.

Okay, now that I know that I'll be getting seedy pot, I'm wondering what the total damages are.

• How thoroughly do I need to clean out my cabinet to get rid of the pollen?
• Will the seeds be any good for growing more plants? The original seed was 'feminized'. Does that mean that my plant's seeds will make only female plants too? (I'm guessing that I'm not so lucky.)

Bummer, bummer bummer... At least I have a little smoke for tonight now from those pods.

 

[dajosh42069]

To get the pollen out, you'll have to clean it VERY well, and even then you run a small risk, but a good 2wice over should get it.
And bending branches, heat, ect, ect. These are all things that cause stress. That's why I mentioned it before, but..I didn't wanna be a nay sayer. I mean, you had to do what you had to do.
The seeds WILL be ok once they're mature. I wouldn't use those ones.
But you can do just fine by letting them complete maturation, then drying/curing the seeds in the bud. The only thing about that, is that the strain has already shown it's herm traits, meaning you might get herms again in the future. You might be better off simply getting a new strain, but it's CERTAINLY your choice. They will work, and should still be fems, but as I said, the herm genes have already shown themselves...so, beware!

 

[dajosh42069]

And yeah, looks like I was right, I thought those pods looks pretty damn fat. Like a prego bud.

 

[daveroller]

To get the pollen out, you'll have to clean it VERY well, and even then you run a small risk, but a good 2wice over should get it.
And bending branches, heat, ect, ect. These are all things that cause stress. That's why I mentioned it before, but..I didn't wanna be a nay sayer. I mean, you had to do what you had to do.
The seeds WILL be ok once they're mature. I wouldn't use those ones.
But you can do just fine by letting them complete maturation, then drying/curing the seeds in the bud. The only thing about that, is that the strain has already shown it's herm traits, meaning you might get herms again in the future. You might be better off simply getting a new strain, but it's CERTAINLY your choice. They will work, and should still be fems, but as I said, the herm genes have already shown themselves...so, beware!

Yeah, maybe this strain is sensitive to stress. But they did go through a heck of a lot in this grow. I'll give some of this pot away and my friends can plant the seeds if they want to. Call me "Johnny Potseed".

Are there some strains that just plain don't develop herms, or are very unlikely to? I have some seeds from The Attitude that are called "Pineapple Chunk" that I'm thinking of growing next time.

Here's a link to its description: <click here>

I hope it's less sensitive and I'll try not to put it through so much heat and bending!

 

[daveroller]

Some good news...

I smoked those seed pods (without the seeds) last night before bed. Got about just under 2 hits from them, plus I smoked 1 hit of the run of the mill stuff I've been getting here in small town Minnesota. I noticed that after smoking my home grown weed that I got a lot higher than usual. It also left only white ash in my pipe. It sure put a nice smile on my face for a while. Not bad for some immature stuff. The only bad thing was that I started coming down after only about an hour or so, and after about 3 hours I didn't feel high anymore. I didn't even feel burnt out. But I guess I can't expect a lot at this point, since it's so immature yet. Got 2 more important weeks before harvest. Just changed the water today and added full strength nutes for the last time. Next week I'm going to taper off the nutes until the last few days of flushing with plain water.

I discovered that when the plant gets really big it's not practical to move it from one tub to another while changing water. She fell over on the floor because some of the branches are so long they made her top heavy. They need to be supported by the walls of my cabinet at this point. SO... for the next grow I'll have to figure out a good way to drain out the tub completely without moving the plant. I know I could use a pump, but I'm not sure if that would get the last drops out. I was thinking of maybe filling the bottom of my res with something solid, up to the level of my spigot. Maybe plaster of paris? It's a little bit heavy and might contaminate my water for all I know, but I'd like to really drain out my res good without moving it out of the cabinet. Another idea would be to put a drain right in the bottom of the res and put the res on top of some kind of frame to lift it up enough so that it isn't resting on top of the plumbing underneath it. Of course if I buy a Water Farm like SCOTTYBALLS uses, this is all moot.

 

[quixand]

Was so promising. As I was getting towards the end, it was obvious they were seeds. Buds grown under cfl and T5 aren't airy like that. I've seen scrog grows using t5 and or cfls that you couldn't tell they weren't grown under hps.

Scrog next time from the get go, and you'll be mint.

 

[lordjin]

Agh! I stand so corrected. Sorry, Dave (and Josh). All my other advice is pretty good, though... ergh.

 

[daveroller]

Agh! I stand so corrected. Sorry, Dave (and Josh). All my other advice is pretty good, though... ergh.

Don't worry about it, Jin!

I had to bend those branches. The problem was that I let the plant grow too big before flowering. Now that I know better, I'll try not to do that next time.