New doctor talking down on my pot usage@

NoGutsGrower

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Funny story of the day! I went to see a new doctor today (just got insurance again). The doctor was telling me how bad my marijuana usage is, I walked out of his office with a prescription for 30mg of percocet 6 times a day and had to sign a waiver stating that I wont sue if the Humira (shots to kill immune system) gave me cancer!

All this but my pot is bad???? I just said "yep, okay" Thanks for the pharmacy grade heroin!
 

cannabisguru

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eh, percocets aren't heroin.. not even close.

I know this because I'm an ex-addict of synthetic heroin.. which is actually Roxycodone/Oxycodone. Shits even more powerful than morphine.

but yeah, percocets are childs play my friend.. I use to be able to take those like candy and even when I didn't have any, I didn't have any withdrawals from them. Same thing with Loricets (the green 'Watson' 503's - the best ones IMO).. I took those every day (up to 10 a day man) for over 10 years.. and during those 10 years, the few days each month I didn't have any.. I never had any withdrawal symptoms.

I'm not saying they're not addicting or bad.. I'm just saying their not as bad as you think they are.. and they're not anywhere close, not even in the same ballpark.. as Oxy or Roxy (synthetic heroin.)

peace.
 

cannabisguru

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my doc told me to eat my weed if i wanted to get high.
well, technically you could eat it. I wouldn't suggest eating it raw.. as this won't do anything but give you an upset stomach. It def. won't get you high eating it raw.. and your doc should be backhanded in the face for saying such a thing..

If you want to eat cannabis... the best thing would be to check out some edibles bro. The high is def. different than smoking IMO.. alot of other people will tell you the same thing too.. eating some of the edibles will straight fuck you up if your not careful.

peace.
 

cannabisguru

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well you called me bro so i though dude was proper

anyways no fuss happy toking
fuss? nah, no fuss over here bro. I take nothing around here personal. Just wanted to let you know that I meant nothing bad about what I said, I figured you took it the wrong way.

but yeah, whatever. heh.

ciao..
 

thump easy

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shit my doctor prescribed hgh for growth hormones so that i could recover form a arm injury supose to grow some cartilage back..... without sergery... she tried to stick her finger in my ass to check my prostate man i should have let her im 35 n i dont want a man finger in my ass... lolz..... but ya that fucken growth made me feel like i was a teenager i started jumping off of roofs n running n the fucked up part about it it cost me 1200 dollars per month pluss her doctor fees twice a month n she tried showing me her camel toe i aint lien i should have piped her mabe she give me a discount...... lolz ya hgh is some good shit man i loved it ima have to go she her old ass again but she look like she could b 35 but she is somewere around close to sixty crazzy i dont want to get old man i WANA FUCK FOR EVER>>>>>>>>
 

panhead

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Yeah pain management doctors are a funny lot.

My pain mg doc was kinda the same way,he had me on 80 mg oxycontin 3 x daily along with 30 mg roxy 4 times daily, then acted funny about giving me the reccomendation,his reasons were understandable though,he just wondered what effect mj would really have with pain levels as high as mine,he left it up to my neurosergeon who wrote the recomendation from extensive scarring on the spinal cord,i had to do a trade off,the neurosergeon had me on soma compound which he switched out for the mj recomendation.
 

C.Indica

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Tell him that you couldn't sign the waiver, because your hand was cramped from signing the last waiver stating that you couldn't sue if your marijuana helped with your cancer.
 

Dan Kone

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Funny story of the day! I went to see a new doctor today (just got insurance again). The doctor was telling me how bad my marijuana usage is, I walked out of his office with a prescription for 30mg of percocet 6 times a day and had to sign a waiver stating that I wont sue if the Humira (shots to kill immune system) gave me cancer!

All this but my pot is bad???? I just said "yep, okay" Thanks for the pharmacy grade heroin!
By taking something natural you're cutting into his dope dealing profits.
 

panhead

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By taking something natural you're cutting into his dope dealing profits.
I used to think the same way but the longer i deal with my 3 docs & my wifes 4 docs im starting to change my mind,i think its more along the lines of them not knowing anything about mj other than what they've learned in school,ya gotta remember most docs are not taught real world effects of mj,only bs hype.

My pain doc couldnt understand what mj would do for me & he is cool as fuk,all he could see was the pain killing effects of what i was allready taking,if were all being as blunt as possible we all know that even the strongest smoke at 30% levels cant compare with a 7.5 mg vicoden for pk effects, so on that note the docs are right, to a degree.

For my wife & me, using mj isnt the ticket for pain but it does help balance the effects of the pk's & extend their working window,which translates with us taking less pk's,there is also a muscle relaxant effect with mj that cannot be replicated with synthetics just yet,we all need to point this out to our docs to help them learn how helpfull it can be without interfering with the prescribed meds.

I think the more common med mj becomes the more educated pain mgmnt docs will become.
 

NoGutsGrower

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eh, percocets aren't heroin.. not even close.

I know this because I'm an ex-addict of synthetic heroin.. which is actually Roxycodone/Oxycodone. Shits even more powerful than morphine.

but yeah, percocets are childs play my friend.. I use to be able to take those like candy and even when I didn't have any, I didn't have any withdrawals from them. Same thing with Loricets (the green 'Watson' 503's - the best ones IMO).. I took those every day (up to 10 a day man) for over 10 years.. and during those 10 years, the few days each month I didn't have any.. I never had any withdrawal symptoms.

I'm not saying they're not addicting or bad.. I'm just saying their not as bad as you think they are.. and they're not anywhere close, not even in the same ballpark.. as Oxy or Roxy (synthetic heroin.)

peace.
hahahahahahahaahahahhaah! percocet is oxycodone not hydrocodone like vicoden! Percocet is oxycodone and acetaminophen (tylenol). the exact same drug that was is in oxycontin, roxycodone. PERCOCET IS A BRAND NAME PILL not it's own drug! So sorry YOU DON'T KNOW because you were and ex-addict! I have been on way more pain killers than most! I was on 4 80 mg OC a day plus up to 8 4mg dilaudid a day. Then switched to the 100mcg/hr fentynal patch and the dilaudid! Morphine is crap up against percs would compair them to tylenol with a skittle color coatings (red white blue green lavander/purple)! percocet and OC, roxycodone, endocet or any of the other brand names are the exact same drug! OXYCODONE! they just have different amounts of drug in them your 503 were 10 mg oxycodone and 650 mg tylenol (baby pills) one of my pills is 3 of those. yes percocet is just as bad as i think it is! 10 pills a day of the watson 503s is only 100mg of oxycodone (I've put more than that up my nose AT ONCE, not over a day, yes my doctor knew i would only do it when I was throwing up to much to eat the pills)! I have 30 mg pills now so just 6 a day is 180 mg! almost double your 10 a day, now just think when i was on the 4 80 mg a day that is 320 mg a day of just oxycodone! more than 3 times you high daily dose! that isn't even including the fentynal patches and the dilaudid! My wife is a nurse, and I have been on pain meds for the last 8 years! i know what I'm talking about! I'm glad you are an ex addict and not anymore, but 99% of addicts wish they had as many drugs as i did!
The best part about it is my pills are actually 30mg roxys! most people just know it from the BRAND NAME version percocet! (percocet doesn't make a 30mg pill)
so you are right, they aren't in the same ball park, mine being 3 times stronger than yours it's not really fair!
The info is all over the web check out the links below or go to the bluelight forums and see what pills people on there are after (trust me not the 503s)
http://www.drugs.com/percocet.html
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/
 

NoGutsGrower

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Yeah pain management doctors are a funny lot.

My pain mg doc was kinda the same way,he had me on 80 mg oxycontin 3 x daily along with 30 mg roxy 4 times daily, then acted funny about giving me the reccomendation,his reasons were understandable though,he just wondered what effect mj would really have with pain levels as high as mine,he left it up to my neurosergeon who wrote the recomendation from extensive scarring on the spinal cord,i had to do a trade off,the neurosergeon had me on soma compound which he switched out for the mj recomendation.
Yeah I was on 4 80mg oc a day plus 4mg dilaudid as needed! Switched to the fentynal patches to so I didn't get the rollercoaster effect from the pills, just a constant dose of pain meds! I cant believe no one else has told guru he is wrong about the percocet!

Here is a link guru! my 30 mg percs are the same as 30mg of oc or any other pill that is oxycodone!
http://www.drugs.com/percocet.html
 

boneheadbob

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I thought most of that stuff was synthetic heroin. If it is not then it has to be dam close to heroin. Lortab and vicoden are considered "weak" but you can dam well get addicted and have withdrawls bigtime.
 

NoGutsGrower

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I used to think the same way but the longer i deal with my 3 docs & my wifes 4 docs im starting to change my mind,i think its more along the lines of them not knowing anything about mj other than what they've learned in school,ya gotta remember most docs are not taught real world effects of mj,only bs hype.

My pain doc couldnt understand what mj would do for me & he is cool as fuk,all he could see was the pain killing effects of what i was allready taking,if were all being as blunt as possible we all know that even the strongest smoke at 30% levels cant compare with a 7.5 mg vicoden for pk effects, so on that note the docs are right, to a degree.

For my wife & me, using mj isnt the ticket for pain but it does help balance the effects of the pk's & extend their working window,which translates with us taking less pk's,there is also a muscle relaxant effect with mj that cannot be replicated with synthetics just yet,we all need to point this out to our docs to help them learn how helpfull it can be without interfering with the prescribed meds.

I think the more common med mj becomes the more educated pain mgmnt docs will become.
Don't get me wrong I wanted the pain meds, the pot doesn't always cover it! I'm going to have to assume the doctor was morally against it, and didn't know what it can really do!
 
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