Spider Mites Week 8 Flower!
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T Ray
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If you really want you mite problem (very pesky fuckers) to go away go get a NPS for about $10. All other options can work, but I had one hell of a time trying everything else everyone had suggested (sprays,natural predators,oils) before I finally found these bad boys. Nothing else worked (to keep them away for good) so I did the research and made my choice. Worked like a charm. To each his own.
doniawon
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video... subs telling you its a chemical and its bad, but hes also covering his ass at the same time.. oh its out of juice and it not gonna hurt him compared to the other chemicals smoking pot forces him to intake. lol. week 8 people stay away from chemicals. early in bloom or in veg use shit that works like floramite and avid.. spray twice no more mites.. new product mighty wash .. ionized water that kills mites on contacts. anyone use this yet?
T Ray
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Really that's what you got out of it? I thought he was saying that yeah they aren't the best thing for you but the reward was worth the risk. And I don't really see him saying anything about the fact its out of gas as a cover.
He straight up said he uses a couple in that bud room every 6 months and that "if your a tofu eaten vegan and your eating all organic food with no hormones in it, then you know, maybe a pest strip's not for you." <----------- That's what i got out of it. I must of been watching a different video then you.
Are you telling me you would turn down (not smoke) Sub's bud b/c he uses pest strips???????
He straight up said he uses a couple in that bud room every 6 months and that "if your a tofu eaten vegan and your eating all organic food with no hormones in it, then you know, maybe a pest strip's not for you." <----------- That's what i got out of it. I must of been watching a different video then you.
Are you telling me you would turn down (not smoke) Sub's bud b/c he uses pest strips???????
doniawon
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if you use a fresh no pest strip in week 8 and hang it next to your jillybean in your closet grow.. im gonna pass on your grass. one in a big room early in flower or veg.lots of plants... no worries.. why leach a effervescent chemical in your totally clean plant at the very end.. all im sayin. and if its yours, subs or jesus i could give a two shits.
doniawon
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rep...... seems clean and effective good info. lol
the cloner
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plant vitality plus it is the shit no damage to buds or smell can use up to day b4 harvest
T Ray
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Did you not read what I previously quoted. "Dichlorvos does not appear to accumulate in plants, fish, or animals." It's not like you put it directly next to your plants. There will always be two sides to this. All I'm simply saying to the OP is do the research and make a decision for yourself.
doniawon
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This is copy and posted from another site. not my information.
Growers should use caution when dealing with NPS because of its toxicity to humans and animals. You shouldn't use "No-Pest Strips" and other products containing Dichlorvos on flowering plants because of its chance of leaving residual amounts of the active ingredient on your plants. Dichlorvos (The active chemical in No-Pest Strips) is considered a carcinogen and if used with your plants, it should only be used in the vegetation cycle and plants rinsed with water before flowering so you dont have a chance of leaving chemical residue on your harvest if possible. The active chemical (Dichlorvos) can be rinsed off and breaks-down in water but is also a dangerous insecticide and should NOT be used in living areas where people have a chance to inhale the chemical. (People growing in their homes with children, pets etc.)
There needs to be a sticky thread about this because I seem to see plenty of people on the internet using these things improperly.
Info about Dichlorvos:
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts88.html
http://envirocancer.cornell.edu/Fact...dichlorvos.cfm
http://safe2use.com/poisons-pesticid...dichlorvos.htm
*****This is NOT a thread to discuss the effects of Dichlorvos. It is simply a thread to give caution to those using NPS.
T Ray
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Your evidence seems like it needs more research to become conclusive from what I read. I'll give you that not enough info is known one way or the other.
From your source:
"Does dichlorvos cause cancer in humans?
The risk for developing non-Hodgkin's lymphoma or multiple myeloma (cancers that affect the blood) was not significantly affected in male farmers who had used dichlorvos. A higher number of leukemia cases were reported in one study among male farmers who used dichlorvos for more than ten days per year, compared to those who had not used dichlorvos. A higher number of childhood brain cancer cases were reported among families that used dichlorvos, than families that did not. Both of these studies looked at a very small number of people who were also exposed to other chemicals, making it difficult to determine if dichlorvos was the cause of the cancers. However, the results indicate the need for larger studies on humans who may have been exposed to dichlorvos in their past, especially during childhood."
http://envirocancer.cornell.edu/FactSheet/Pesticide/fs20.dichlorvos.cfm
From your source:
"Does dichlorvos cause cancer in humans?
The risk for developing non-Hodgkin's lymphoma or multiple myeloma (cancers that affect the blood) was not significantly affected in male farmers who had used dichlorvos. A higher number of leukemia cases were reported in one study among male farmers who used dichlorvos for more than ten days per year, compared to those who had not used dichlorvos. A higher number of childhood brain cancer cases were reported among families that used dichlorvos, than families that did not. Both of these studies looked at a very small number of people who were also exposed to other chemicals, making it difficult to determine if dichlorvos was the cause of the cancers. However, the results indicate the need for larger studies on humans who may have been exposed to dichlorvos in their past, especially during childhood."
http://envirocancer.cornell.edu/FactSheet/Pesticide/fs20.dichlorvos.cfm
T Ray
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All I know is in the 3 sources I couldn't the information that whoever that wrote that did.
Where in his sources can I find that info?????? Please quote where in those 3 sources it says this? One of the sources by the way was the one I used that said "Dichlorvos does not appear to accumulate in plants, fish, or animals." which would be a direct contradiction.
Where in his sources can I find that info?????? Please quote where in those 3 sources it says this? One of the sources by the way was the one I used that said "Dichlorvos does not appear to accumulate in plants, fish, or animals." which would be a direct contradiction.
doniawon
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T Ray
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I did do the research and came to the conclusion that for me that was my best option. I seen that it was not proven to cause cancer as you claim (which I did say needed more research to be conclusive b/c the supposed tests they did were whack). I also read that it isn't known to accumulate in plants and made a decision based on the research that I did do.
You can try to knit pick it all you want. I am not spouting out anything that is false information as you did. Trying to claim that it leaves residue on the plants. Again where does it say that????? I still have yet to read one article that conclusively shows it's definitively cancer causing or that it somehow magically leaves a residue on the plant. Yet you put a post on here claiming both of these things with sources that say neither of these things. At what point did I say something that wasn't factual or based on evidence? All I said was I did indeed do the research and made my choice. I will gladly step down and admit that I was wrong when you can show me some real proof of your claims.
You can try to knit pick it all you want. I am not spouting out anything that is false information as you did. Trying to claim that it leaves residue on the plants. Again where does it say that????? I still have yet to read one article that conclusively shows it's definitively cancer causing or that it somehow magically leaves a residue on the plant. Yet you put a post on here claiming both of these things with sources that say neither of these things. At what point did I say something that wasn't factual or based on evidence? All I said was I did indeed do the research and made my choice. I will gladly step down and admit that I was wrong when you can show me some real proof of your claims.
yesum
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The pest strips emit gas not a residue that sticks to plants. If there was a risk, it is that the gas would be taken in by the plant and stored. Do not think that is the case tho. If I have no other options I will use the strip in late flower.
If you are eating a lot of non organic food, you are eating stuff that was stored with this chemical(pest strips or the like hanging close by). They use this commonly in food(grains etc.) storage to prevent pests from wrecking the food.
If you are eating a lot of non organic food, you are eating stuff that was stored with this chemical(pest strips or the like hanging close by). They use this commonly in food(grains etc.) storage to prevent pests from wrecking the food.