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DST

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Some strains will have more hollow tubular stems which makes supercropping different for each plant. and in what I have seen the more sativa based plant seem to fall into this category. Perhaps that is due to their extra heightyness (is that a word??). Anyways, sure it'll be hunkydory. Peace, DST
 

ChroniCDooM

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Hells Yeah DAT! Nice job! Been a lil while since I've stopped by. Nice pleasant surprise! Your garden is looking nice and you are really honing your skills as a greenthumb. Much respect to you! Once again nice job!!

Btw I went to the mayhem fest. Wasn't to impressed. Nothing special. Megadeth disappointed me for the first time. But at least Holy Wars Kicked Ass! Started pouring as they ended. Overall not my favorite concert at all. Unlike some of the people texting to the big screen saying it was their favorite concert and shit. Lol not even close for me. I did manage to get ChroniCDooM on the screen. Lol my bro said he saw it. Anyway take care!
 

C.Indica

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"The Athiarchists" are a two-piece that said they were doing mayhem this year. They're badass, cool guys with lots of enthusiasm.
They love to smoke a good bowl.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Some strains will have more hollow tubular stems which makes supercropping different for each plant. and in what I have seen the more sativa based plant seem to fall into this category. Perhaps that is due to their extra heightyness (is that a word??). Anyways, sure it'll be hunkydory. Peace, DST
thanks for taking time to explain that to me D'stea. Its so nice of you to stop by and give me some vet advice.I Truley apprecate it. I have so much respect for you and really look up to you and your amazing gardening skills. Im really lucky to be friends with you. Your so cool and respectful . Peace and bong grips forever. bongsmiliebongsmilie
Hells Yeah DAT! Nice job! Been a lil while since I've stopped by. Nice pleasant surprise! Your garden is looking nice and you are really honing your skills as a greenthumb. Much respect to you! Once again nice job!!

Btw I went to the mayhem fest. Wasn't to impressed. Nothing special. Megadeth disappointed me for the first time. But at least Holy Wars Kicked Ass! Started pouring as they ended. Overall not my favorite concert at all. Unlike some of the people texting to the big screen saying it was their favorite concert and shit. Lol not even close for me. I did manage to get ChroniCDooM on the screen. Lol my bro said he saw it. Anyway take care!
Thank you Chronic. That is really nice of you to say. I really enjoy gardening with Mary Jane. I think its really cool to focus on one type of plant and get to know the techniques and best ways to grow her. I feel like ive learned so much and yet know so very little. Massive respect back to you chronic.
Sorry to hear about the let down of the show. YOu will have to go to the Judas Priest show now to make up for this one. Indoor venues always seem to create a more intense enviornment for a metal concert. :leaf::-P:leaf:
"The Athiarchists" are a two-piece that said they were doing mayhem this year. They're badass, cool guys with lots of enthusiasm.
They love to smoke a good bowl.
cool , never heard of them. I will have to check them out. thanks C'I. later dude.:leaf::-P:leaf:
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Super Cropped Snow white 2 days ago.. she is slowly mending. I had to add some tape to help her maintain her dignity.lol :mrgreen:

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Here is a picture of my set up at any angle that you can see how my ducting is situated.
In the upper left middle i have that ducting with a 4 inch inline fan going into the light to cool it. On the opposite side of the light the ducting goes back out the middle right side and is hooked up by the cieling extending to my door with a window.
Inside the tent my Phat Filter has ducting hooked up to it to the upper hole in the back right part of the tent cieling with a 6 inch outtake fan sitting on top of the tent. Ducting is then connected to it and extends up the side wall and out the door window.
Bottom of the right front side of the tent i have my ducting inside the tent hooked to a 4 inch inline fan with ducting extending down on the floor up to the door window.
So i have 3 ducts sticking out my door window! perfect fit. I hope this helps you out eightydegrees. Let me know how things progress. :mrgreen: I hope this wanst toooo terribly confusing.
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my girls are showing just a slight yellow discoloration in a few of their lower leaves. I plan on adding a boost of nitro tomorrow with their water. Buds are looking plumper everyday. Im hoping for a really sweet turn out in the end of this excelarated short grow. Peace Out Dr. Amber Trichome:-P:leaf::-P
 

ChroniCDooM

Active Member
What up Amber T? Thanks for the pic of your setup. Nice and tidy space ya got there. As you know my setup is in the closet. I hope to be coming out of the closet next year. Lmao. The area I'm hoping to use looks about the size of the space u got your tent in. I need some shelving space also. I got all kinds of visions for my space once I finally do move from the closet. I actually have a nice under the staircase room you can walk in also that I will prob utilize also. Matter of fact I'll prob use that space and my cabinet I built and am using now. Cool thing bout the under stairs room is that there is ventilation ducting in there I can splice into. Dam I can't wait and am really envious of what ya got going on. I can't wait to grow more than 2 at a time. Anyway I'm rambling just wanted to give ya some props on your grow area. Take care and Happy Growing!
 

C.Indica

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Awww Amber, you are having a hard time with ducting and I know it!
When you take ducting, and induce just ONE 90* turn in it, you cut off so much airflow it's REDICULOUS.
I would really like to advise you to take the time, and turn that ducting mess into one straight line if possible.

Lookin' good. I like the eerie glow on the room shot.
 

del66666

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hi Ambernooskitinkerbellanoski, ive been doing a few plants in air pots but they seem to go taller and less spread out than my normal pots, maybe just me though...........molasses, ive used it, aint got a clue if it helped or not though, lots of peeps swear by it though....... i dont use now im in coco.........got me 5 fem lemon skunk seeds today and 1 fem barneys lsd......loving your work.....nice cropping........
 

blackxs

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Hey there, just wanted to chime in here with a few things. Im not a regular here but hopefully I can help you out :)

Supercropping is mostly done during the vegetative stage to branches which are not the main colas. I honestly cringed when I saw your one plant had been topped 3 times. Supercropping is done so when the wound heals the stem will be stronger as well as the inner "pipeline" of nutrients being larger and thus hopefully, more efficient. It can be efficientlly utilized in a sog grow to push lower branches farther outwards. If done from an early enough stage on the main side branches, hormonally the plant will treat these as also the main cola - and develop many particularly large buds. It is particularly efficient supercropping side branches while fimming or topping the main cola, which will force the plant to find a new main cola, possibly resulting in many more than what one normally gets if many branches are topped at once - so not only can the fim give 4 new tops but the bottom 4 branches will be "tops." Done right you can have a plant with 8 tops that grow even at the canopy with no LST.
Anyways, I would really recommend against doing it during flowering. You will be starving the buds on top of "supercrop" for nutrients or water until the wound heals. Also you will notice the healed wounds are not appearing larger, as you would notice with a correct supercrop or even with a correct topping, you see a swelling at the joint with the stem. The absence of that tells me this is a weak-stemmed plant bending itself just enough in shape to transfer nutrients. Supercropping the same, main stem 3 times is pointless. It is really just choking the bud each time, until it heals again. Supercropping is mostly done at the base of the branch very near the stem, in order to facilitate a quick response.

What you need to do is simply tie it down. No harm to the plant, and the benefit is two-fold: it allows the canopy to remain even while allowing light to reach those lower budsites. Supercropping is really a vegetative technique, and can be done very efficiently alongside a sea of green or even scrog grows. The main idea here is forcing horiztontal growth, but in your situation with the light where it is - the plant is just going to keep bending up. Essentially the problem is that supercropping is done to "rebuild" the stem, it is not so much a training technique except for horizontal growth (which will not apply to a main stem without external factors such as LST).

Regarding stretching - in my opinion this goes back to the vegetative stage. Stretching is why I personally use a T5 fixture - it can be pushed right against the plants to force it down. Other than that, since you seem to like to use a lot of strains (read your last grow as well :) ); I would learn to utilize a LST method. It is very efficient, I personally tie and re-tie down my plants as needed until a week or so in flowering after they are done with that flowering stretching phase. After that it usually looks like a nice even blanket of bud, and the light can be put as close as possible and I do not have to worry about stray stretching plants. A screen of green is also an excellent method - you would be surprised what some cheap PVC and chicken wire can build you. Personally I would also recommend removing any new growth on the bottom 1/3 of the plant during late vegetative and early flowering - those baby buds waste resources being grown while not providing anything to the plant in the form of light energy or anything else. It is usually best to allow the plant to use it's available nutrients on the main colas getting direct light, as those will be the strongest and best buds in the end anyways.

Cheers
 

C.Indica

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Great read, but remember to include Apical Dominance/Auxin Distribution to your methods.
I noticed it in some of your ideas, but left out in others.
I personally don't harm plants besides LST/Topping.
But useful to others.
 

DST

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I harm my plants everyday....I be burning those bi-otches!!!! lol. childish I know, but it's Monday here!
 

DST

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apical dominance to me is really just fancy words for using gravity. auxins (plant hormones) are fed downwards through the plant to lower growth tips that the plant sees as main growth tips, incase anyone wondered.

Great read, but remember to include Apical Dominance/Auxin Distribution to your methods.
I noticed it in some of your ideas, but left out in others.
I personally don't harm plants besides LST/Topping.
But useful to others.
And blackxs, interesting to see you are not an addvocate of supercropping in flower. I have supercropped plenty during flower with great success, and sometimes even more than once on the same branch due to indoor growing and having to train plants and branches inside a cab. I can honestly say that there didn't seem to be any detrimental effect whatsover to the end resulting bud and yield. But that's just what I have seen. You have to rememeber that with a big sun outside then there may be no benefit to doing that. But indoors, you have factors like canopy level, light distribution in the cab, etc. So these are factors that you have to equate into your overall growing technique I guess.

Each to their own, some like to snap, some like to bend. I can assure you my tomatoes that I have supercropped are also loving it.

Peace and bendy branches,

DST
 

Don Gin and Ton

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damn you know i never even thought of supercropping my tommies!?

guess you went a little too far with the HST eh amber? lol she'll bounce right back tho. like the tent open shot. warm inviting glow thing going on.

laters!
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Hey all you stoner monkeys, hope your having a wonderful day or morning or whatever where ever.
Thanks for stopping by and welcome blackxs. Nice to have you here! I appreciate the constructive critisim and food for thought.
Thanks dst for helping with his technical question.

I have tons of images i will be posting this afternoon in an update. Included will be my triple supercropped kush train. I think you might be pleasantly surprised black xs with how she is filling in. Tons of budding sites growing plumper everday! As a beginner i have found that i enjoy to beat up my girls and test the bounderies. AS DST mentioned my grow environment is in constant need of canapy adjustment, supercropping really works well for me. I hope to pursue more experimental testing as i gain knowledge with gardening.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Hi:joint: , im so happy to finally get this update in. I hope your all doing well and you are enjoying your summer.:leaf::-P:leaf:
Lots of stuff has been a brewin in my garden. Things are progressing nicely and buds are fattening up! :leaf::-P:leaf:
I have had some yellowing leaves which i ended up pruning off most of the girls that had em. Im thinkin that this is either a nitrogen def or a cal mag def.. I have added suppliments of both to the girls diets in the last week..
Yesterday i added BLOOMBastic for the first time. :leaf::-P:leaf:
I really looking foward to a healthy fat harvest. Fingers crossed!!!
Take care and enjoy the pictures.. thanks for stopping by... later amber:bigjoint:
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Praying to the weed god for healthy plants and a successful grow and BIG FAT BUDS!!

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Cherry Cheese Livers:blsmoke:bongsmilie


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Kushberry left and Ktrain to the right
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triple super cropped kushtrain,,fat buds poppin no probems here!:peace::peace:

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church to the left:mrgreen: and a lemon skunk to the right:mrgreen:
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diagram in the tent now
see below



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Group photo OP

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k train in front, k train to the back right.. these triple supercropped ladies are really amazing and dishing out some nice buddage!!:-P:leaf::-P
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LEMON sKuNks:-P:leaf::-P


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CHURCH..gettin nice and fat! kiki your right ..very leafy!!:-P:leaf::-P






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PEACE OUT
 
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