TrichomeTrent
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Basically this without the hostility
Absolutely nothing in prop 215 or s.b.420 says patient to patient "sales" are legal UNLESS you are members of the same collective or co-op.
Cultivation and intent to sell in California - help!
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Absolutely nothing in prop 215 or s.b.420 says patient to patient "sales" are legal UNLESS you are members of the same collective or co-op.
Budologist420
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ya fuck that douche what an asshole
crystalman
Active Member
dont break up the fam ,make it legal and all is well
Perfextionist420
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I am disgusted by the first few responses in this thread, I hope you can get everything legal and produce some smoke the dispensaries want.
TrichomeTrent
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People are just plain rude sometimes because they dont take things in perspective... they seem to think everyone lives in the same situation as they do. Just sad that people have lashed out at OP instead of being helpful/supportive when she is clearly very concerned.
Charlie Ventura
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You guys are posting for a ghost. Notice how she hasn't responded to any of your posts?
d.s.m.
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Can you blame her?
TrichomeTrent
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This is what I was thinking too. After initial response I would have been like 'to hell with these guys'. Seeing as she was super concerned I wouldn't be surprised if she also posted on other forums and got positive answers from the start... and continued posting
d.s.m.
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I was and still am quite honestly embarrassed by the way this woman was treated here.This is what I was thinking too. After initial response I would have been like 'to hell with these guys'. Seeing as she was super concerned I wouldn't be surprised if she also posted on other forums and got positive answers from the start... and continued posting
I'm not promoting craigslist at all and/or have nothing to do with mmj and cl ,i dont like/ or dislike it...but to just reply that "none of you look at each other's recs anyways" is first of all wrong pretty much everyone verifies everyone, and not helping anyone. I would say that some of those posters are much more caregivers then some collectives that have people that want to rush you in and out and take your money. Peace.
withoutAchance
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Definitely some morons started this thing off.wrong. as a father and grower my wife is always tripping about the same issues and half the time I am too and there no easy answers no its no worth u kids and it will never be 100% legal but keep the faith and grow natural medicine for patients in need not drugs for loosers and a doctors rec doesn't always make them a legidiment patient even if the rec is verified I turn recreational. User away all the time they can lie to the doc bit not to me
NoGutsGrower
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I'm glad you are being safe but you can't always tell if someone is faking it just by looking at them. If you met me, you wouldn't know that I a have as many problems as I do. I look like a normal person and usually stay away from doing things that will show I'm sick. Just don't want people feeling sorry for me so I hide it most of the time, say I'm too high or tired. I guess all I'm trying to say is please don't judge a person by their looks, If you are doing them a favor/giving a good deal most people won't mind telling you about / proving their problems to continue receiving your services, some might think medical problems are personal but so is your freedom!
In answer to your first question, yes I do partake (occasionally) and I do have a dr's rec. And I don't do it with my kids around.
To be honest, I was somewhat discouraged by the first few responses, but whatever- people are entitled to their own opinions and maybe I am freaking out a little too much about it. It is sort of hard to tell - because I have been looking for info on this particular situation - like mojobud says- who are the ones getting arrested? - I am trying to find out! - and I can only find a few stories on the internet. But the ones I do find scare me.
Thank you all for your thoughful repsonses. -- I did not get scared away - it's just that I have a FT job, 3 kids and a husband so I rarely get the chance to sit in front of the computer without anyone trying to check out what I'd doing- and I definitely don't want anyone peeking at what I am writing about.
To the posters who say I should have thought about it before he started growing... I did think about it- and selling to the dispensaries seemed pretty low risk and reasonable, so that's what he was supposed to be doing. It just seems that this craigslist thing is getting out of hand and my husband won't stop because it is pretty easy. Like I said, he does actually call and verify every single person, but I don't know if the police would be going as far as getting fake id's and stuff. or maybe not - because only the feds re concerned now?
One thing is sure - I will post again if we get busted so at least I can give people info about what happens!
You all take care!
Thanks so much for your reply.. One thing in particular that is getting at me is that I have been begging my husband for us to move - right now we live in a nice big house on a big lot- even with a pool, etc that we obviously cannot afford. We have been struggling financially for a good 4 years. I want to move - I would rather move into a 2 bedroom apt and not have to stress about stuff like this (getting arrested) at all - he will not even discuss it. He sees it as being a failure, but I have had enough of the stress about money/jobs/pot/police, that's why I say this may be the last straw- we just don't view things the same way..... really- thanks for listening/reading and giving thoughtful and kind answers (well most of you guys anyways, lol)
Dan Kone
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First off, listen to DSM, it's solid advice.
Second. If you're really in a bind and must do this there is a right way and a wrong way. Do it the right way.
Ahead of time make them give you there doctors rec info, ALWAYS verify it ahead of time before making a delivery. When you are delivering it, first enter their house (leaving the product in your car), ask to look at their doctors recommendation to verify the info/name is the same they gave to you over the phone. Then make them sign a collective agreement (copy another collective's agreement, change the name to whatever you want to call your collective). Only at that point do you bring any product into their home.
That is not a guarantee that nothing bad will happen, but it should keep you reasonably well protected from law enforcement and depending on your county you probably are safe from the law. (that still isn't 100% legal, but it would be very difficult for law enforcement to mess with you).
Cops do bust people off craigslist, but using that method I've never heard of anyone getting busted. Usually what they do to bust you, is give you recommendation info on the phone, but when you come by for the delivery they ask to see a sample before showing you a doctors recommendation. Once you give it to them, then they bust you. If you make them show you their doctor's rec first and then make them sign a collective agreement before producing any products, they don't really have a case to bust you at that point.
This link should give you a sample collective agreement. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.safeaccessnow.org%2Fdownloads%2FSampleCollectiveAgreement-New.doc&rct=j&q=medical%20marijuana%20collective%20agreement&ei=lUcmTtvcCo-isAP87ZmcDw&usg=AFQjCNEzTlksZ5UYpeXUjVvFBGUQzxJV5g
If you do it the right way, you shouldn't have to worry too much about the law enforcement if you're in most places. (not promising you anything, just trying to help)
But as others have stated you're better off trying to learn more about growing top shelf bud then selling directly to dispensaries. The method I've described isn't necessarily legal, it's just what to do if you're in a bind for cash and looking for a way that will make it very difficult for law enforcement to mess with you.
Really what you should do if you want to do deliveries is first consult a local mmj lawyer for advisement, then form a mutual benefit non-profit corporation, start up a webpage, go to a local or state (not federal!) credit union and open a business account. Then you'll have a legitimate delivery service. Craigslist if pretty sketchy IMO. I'd advertise a webpage on craigslist, but I wouldn't sell directly off there if it were me. Safety concerns....
Second. If you're really in a bind and must do this there is a right way and a wrong way. Do it the right way.
Ahead of time make them give you there doctors rec info, ALWAYS verify it ahead of time before making a delivery. When you are delivering it, first enter their house (leaving the product in your car), ask to look at their doctors recommendation to verify the info/name is the same they gave to you over the phone. Then make them sign a collective agreement (copy another collective's agreement, change the name to whatever you want to call your collective). Only at that point do you bring any product into their home.
That is not a guarantee that nothing bad will happen, but it should keep you reasonably well protected from law enforcement and depending on your county you probably are safe from the law. (that still isn't 100% legal, but it would be very difficult for law enforcement to mess with you).
Cops do bust people off craigslist, but using that method I've never heard of anyone getting busted. Usually what they do to bust you, is give you recommendation info on the phone, but when you come by for the delivery they ask to see a sample before showing you a doctors recommendation. Once you give it to them, then they bust you. If you make them show you their doctor's rec first and then make them sign a collective agreement before producing any products, they don't really have a case to bust you at that point.
This link should give you a sample collective agreement. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.safeaccessnow.org%2Fdownloads%2FSampleCollectiveAgreement-New.doc&rct=j&q=medical%20marijuana%20collective%20agreement&ei=lUcmTtvcCo-isAP87ZmcDw&usg=AFQjCNEzTlksZ5UYpeXUjVvFBGUQzxJV5g
If you do it the right way, you shouldn't have to worry too much about the law enforcement if you're in most places. (not promising you anything, just trying to help)
But as others have stated you're better off trying to learn more about growing top shelf bud then selling directly to dispensaries. The method I've described isn't necessarily legal, it's just what to do if you're in a bind for cash and looking for a way that will make it very difficult for law enforcement to mess with you.
Really what you should do if you want to do deliveries is first consult a local mmj lawyer for advisement, then form a mutual benefit non-profit corporation, start up a webpage, go to a local or state (not federal!) credit union and open a business account. Then you'll have a legitimate delivery service. Craigslist if pretty sketchy IMO. I'd advertise a webpage on craigslist, but I wouldn't sell directly off there if it were me. Safety concerns....
Dan Kone
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and to the people in this thread talking shit - you're a fucking embarrassment. You guys have never been in a tight spot and had to resort to doing some shit you didn't really want to do? Must be nice. Personally, I've had to do much worse at times to get by. Not proud of it, but some times life is hard. So fuck off with the judgments ok?
NEVER OUTGUNNED
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Things guy above makes sense, jordan however STFU and don't breed. It obvious by your post that you are a kid, I have pubes older than you. selling on craigslist is stupid, common sense tells you that, while i must admit to part taking on cg, i am nervous as shit because even if i abide by the law, they can still lock you up with a high bail, and keep you until shit gets dropped, which can be days if your lucky, weeks or even months. for a grown up with responsibilities (you might wanna Google that, Jordan) that can be devastating.one thing to start off planning on dealing with the dispensaries, but then to turn to CG, no bueno. however if you did know about this, and are just Bullshitting us, then you are in the wrong.
Homegrown4209
Member
Check this, do what you got to do to survive. This world is effd anyway. Being prescribed medication isn't illegal, selling your meds to someone who is not is a different story with any drug. . MMJ in California thats hooked to a business with a practice is strictly that, a Medical Business like any other doctors office. If he's not smart enough to start his own practice and take care of his family legitimately then you'll always be the illegal alien working under the table. If you want it to be your business and draw an income then take legal action like you normally would any business. By following procedures and guidelines. Your kids will be taken away if he is illegally selling any type of drug ( if he's caught). You said he's smart so get it together
