Some Advice please

Demonical

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Hi im having trouble with my grow and wondering if any one can help me out please :). This is my 3rd grow, all my grow seems to have this problem the lower leaves go yellow and fall off. although my last grow the yield was ok im sure they must have something wrong for their leaves to fall off ( during veg). They are about a month old give or take different breeds too but all showing the same problem. they are in biobizz all mix with a small amount of added perlite. im feeding them biogrow 2 feeds 1 water ( ive just reached max strength of 4 ml per litre 2 days ago + i added some epsom because i think it might be a mg def). the new groth seems pretty healthy altho 1 plant does not look as green as id expect but the others are fine. PH wise i believe they are fine, i did have a ph meter and was using 6.5 then my ph meter dies and starts going manic. anyways i know my tap water is 7.1 ph so thats what theyve been getting since. im using 150cfl on 24 hour its about 2 inches above the plants. the temps are rather high between 86-94 ive seen but it was a hot day. usualy about 86-90 i know this is high but i managed to get some decent bud at this temp before its not ideal but i cant do much about it at the moment. theyve had a fan over them their whole life and a small pc fan bringing air into the cabinet. im not sure what else to add but thanks in advance for your replies. a few pictures of the prooblem.


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Bublonichronic

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hmmm, plants look ok in general, i would say flush each with about a gallon of water, then resume feeding normally, maybe even back off a bit...
 

Demonical

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Thanks for your reply, i originaly thought they were hungry or need mg but u think they need flushing? i would like to figure out the actual reason wether its because my feed is lacking in something particular. im still learning and taking all advice on board :D. i think i will flush it in a few days then add some super thrive + bio grow half strength+lil molassas. does this sound good? unless any1 else has any ideas
 

Bublonichronic

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Thanks for your reply, i originaly thought they were hungry or need mg but u think they need flushing? i would like to figure out the actual reason wether its because my feed is lacking in something particular. im still learning and taking all advice on board :D. i think i will flush it in a few days then add some super thrive + bio grow half strength+lil molassas. does this sound good? unless any1 else has any ideas
ugh, i hate superthrive, but thats just me:dunce: anyway how much molasses you puttin in there, at this point you should prolly only do about 1/4-1/2 tblsp:leaf:
 

Demonical

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i havent added any molasses yet, as for super thrive ive only read about it and never used it. i only used bio grow and last feed was 1st max strength( althought symptoms appeared about a week ago which led me to think it was underfeeding) i also added small amount of epsom just incase was mg def.

if any1 else has any ideas it would be appreciated.
 

Demonical

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dont you have to use bio veg and bloom at the same time?
Hi they are only vegging at the moment so only bio veg is needed i believe (i could be wrong but i have done this way last 2 grows, maybe this is where the problem is coming from lol).
thanks :)

p.s i saw ur 12/12 grows they look cool :D im going to try it that way next time round.
 

Demonical

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here check out my nitrogen defficiency/toxicity post with pictures
Can Anyone Tell Me WTF Is Happening To My Plant?

the molasses will lock out N if you use it too often, dont use more than 1tbsp per gallon, and only use it every 3rd/4th watering
Hi so do you think its a nitrgen def? if it is it should be fine in a few days as i gave it a full 4ml per L of bio grow, do you think i should add a foilior feed. as for the molassas i havent added any yet (need get some more last lot went rock hard). i think i was using a fair bit more last grow :D thanks for the advice.
 

del66666

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Hi they are only vegging at the moment so only bio veg is needed i believe (i could be wrong but i have done this way last 2 grows, maybe this is where the problem is coming from lol).
thanks :)

p.s i saw ur 12/12 grows they look cool :D im going to try it that way next time round.
when you grow again id suggest coco as its easy to keep the plants healthy all the way til the end...........be sure to post pics on the 12-12 thread when you do it
 

Bublonichronic

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when you grow again id suggest coco as its easy to keep the plants healthy all the way til the end...........be sure to post pics on the 12-12 thread when you do it
where did you read this? soil is the most forgiving medium, in other words better for new growers...
 

Demonical

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hi, well i flushed them and they have perked up nicely gave them small bit of food after, got massive in the last 3 weeks repotted them too (a small amount of yellowing has occured last few days but im keeping an eye on it need ph tester as my water is 7.2 (300 ppm). put them into flowering few days ago too. Problem now is the temps!! with my 150w enviro blue its about 84 degree but with the 250 flower its going up to 105 -.- soo only thing i can do till i can get a inline fan is keep the blue light. my question is will it cause any problems till i can afford a new fan say 2 weeks? also my bio bloom smells dodgy so i chucked it and they are only getting the bio grow at the moment (2.5 mill every other watering) how long will they be ok for without the flowering nutes (been on 12/12 for 3 days no signs of sex yet).

i had to turn them to flower now as a limited amount of space.

thanks :D

soz didnt update sooner isp been playing up -.-

im growing

pineapple express
confidential cheese
white widow
2x northern lights

:)

ill post pics in a few days
 

Demonical

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Their looking alot healthier, 1 and a half weeks into flowering 3 have shown to be female the other 2 arent showing yet. just thought id show what they look like at the moment. being fed 2ml bio veg/L 2ml biobloom/L (every
3rd-4th a small amount of molasses, and they had some mg today 1st times for about a month ><.




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pic1; NL (this 1 i topped and is in a very big pot) fem
pic2;NL (small pot) not known
pic3;white widow (strange this 1 hasnt got any pre flowers apart from small 1s stuck to the stem)small pot) not known
pic4;cheese fem :)
pic5;pineapple express fem
pic6;lower leaves on all plants do this, not major tho. i think maybe lights not getting there?

ph still not known -.- (its on my to do list)

not very good pictures ;/
 
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