texastim420
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transplanting is for root bound plants,the amount of light i feed my plants makes my growth focused on branches instead of just height (12 inches from bulb,temps below 80 degrees)
I Split the Grow Tip without Cutting. Worth the Shock with Pics
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jonblaze420
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why'd you stay in party cups so long? limiting your harvest
texastim420
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couldn't decide what i wanted to transplant them into till a few weeks ago
texastim420
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super cropped all plants upload pics in a few days, side note i didnt over bend or break and new tips. REALLY happy since its mt first grow
NWgrowerguy
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I'm in no way a pro grower or anything,but a 4 hour sleep cycle?...........are you just trying to be cruel to those plants on purpose?
whileilaydying
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dude my plants that are in veg are always on a 24 hour light cycle so the time of light they get isnt the problem, its the fact that his plants are 2 inches away from a friggin 400 watt hps. thats the reason your getting such tight nodal spacing, and thats why your plants are looking awful, that and the party cups for what should be their whole vegtative cycle. im not trying to be harsh but do some reading before you go and try to grow like this...lol its funny
Dude transplant those girls before it is to late,they are looking better than at the beginning but come on they need some new soil ,Happy Farming ,Cajun
texastim420
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new fan set-up allows plant tops to be at 8 inches from 600w bulb and stay below 81-82 degrees(around 65,000 lumens according to my light chart) i have no signs of light bleaching stress,plants are watered every 4 hours by flood system, first of six daily watering is 18-18-21 ph lowered to 5-6 range.rest of watering 5-6 ph spring water,low amount of tip burning *
trimmed 1/4 OZ of sucker leaves off 6 plants to make more light for new grow tips
plants are at 4 months now
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trimmed 1/4 OZ of sucker leaves off 6 plants to make more light for new grow tips
plants are at 4 months now
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texastim420
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I hope i got most of my school of hard knocks out of the way this first crop i have been Experimenting with every limit of problems just to see what the plants would look like mostly light set-up changes to see how close i could get the plant without bleaching or heat stress. record was 5in from 600w bulb(ballast set to super lumens) for 2 1/2 hours before temp hit above 83 degrees at tops(i also test light heat by holding hand upside down for a min).but i have pics and notes(8 page power point)of cause and affects.From sexing,under watering to bleaching. i will not do any experimenting in the flower stage till have more plants
texastim420
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im not trying to be harsh.... just notice
adventures roots dont care about about container size if their not root bound or how much soil their in.just moisture,NPK and pH
adventures roots dont care about about container size if their not root bound or how much soil their in.just moisture,NPK and pH
texastim420
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before and after pics. trimmed 1/4 oz of fan leaves, new tips developing great from super cropping
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symbiote420
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dude i could grow 1 plant in that area and it would yield 4x more than all those plants put together. Imma list every mistake you made 1)when a plant is not transplanted in a reasonable amount of time they start yellowing like that because they need more space they could have grown more than twice that size in the same time frame - (can you still fit your 3rd grade clothes/gymshoes,bet that wouldn't be comfortable,lol) 2)the lamp is too powerful to be so close-bleaching the hell out of your plants see how crispy the edges are that's 2)heat stress the plant can't transpire properly place your hand under the lamp for a min or two if it's hot to you move up a couple inches @ a time 5" is too close for air-cooled lights 3) you say they're not rootbound BS, my clones roots are almost bound at the end of cloning (10 - 14 days) and they're under a low wattage of flos 4)with your nodes that close you are begging for problems with mold/pests; internodes should be atleast an inch apart 5) you must be rich cause you wasting a ton of energy/time/space. you should take some of the advice ppl gave you - my grandmother always said "a hard head, make a soft ass"
symbiote420
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......and when you clip half the stem tip that's call the F.I.M. technique (fuck i missed) it's like a less stress topping method some plants respond well to this some don't
texastim420
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For someone who talks so much about the mistakes I've made, it's obvious you haven't paid very much attention to what I said.
Imma list every thing you're wrong about : My plants aren't yellowing, the hps lighting in the room has a yellow tint to it so it's going to make the plants look yellow regardless.
the a/c and light cause a humidity problem if i dont foliage feed enough the leaves can get crispy as you say this is from not wanting to buy a humidifier.my humidity stays in the low 60% with a/c and light on.my tops temps stay below 81-82 degrees i know this is at bottom of the ok range for veg stage
The amount of space the plants are in and the root is working for them, because they're flourishing quite nicely. You can't tell in the pictures, because... Well, they're pictures. You're not going to be able to take in the full effect unless you see them in person.
Although I have had a problem with bleaching previously, (aw... What a problem) if you look at the recent pictures there is no more bleaching. Perhaps you don't think I put a lot of thought and research into exactly how far away to keep that light so I'm going to let you know. Yes, yes I did. And no, the edges are not crispy.the tips suffer from fert burn
It is nice for you to let me know about your plants, but just because something works out one way for you doesn't mean everyone has to do that or everything is going to work out that way for other people. Just saying.
iam a adult with owned property(no rent yeah!!!) and this is where my hobby money goes so as for being rich because of what was it? Energy, time and space? Since you first said they didn't have enough space and now you're saying I'm taking up so much that I'm wasting it...? Contradict yourself much? Also, no.. My electric bill did not go up that much(i even know the neighbors electric is only 30$ more then mine) . And yes I have put a lot of time into this, so believe me I understand what I'm doing.
And because of that I don't appreciate you dogging me like that on my thread, since I always explained what iam doing not only this thread, but other threads as well.and i always have info from websites and forms backing why i grow this way.i dont explain why iam doing because I dont care enough to explain myself to mostly strangers
nodes space to close i cant find any website or form saying this is a problem
Although Young Jeezy would seem to agree with your grandmother, I don't see what that has to do with anything.
Imma list every thing you're wrong about : My plants aren't yellowing, the hps lighting in the room has a yellow tint to it so it's going to make the plants look yellow regardless.
the a/c and light cause a humidity problem if i dont foliage feed enough the leaves can get crispy as you say this is from not wanting to buy a humidifier.my humidity stays in the low 60% with a/c and light on.my tops temps stay below 81-82 degrees i know this is at bottom of the ok range for veg stage
The amount of space the plants are in and the root is working for them, because they're flourishing quite nicely. You can't tell in the pictures, because... Well, they're pictures. You're not going to be able to take in the full effect unless you see them in person.
Although I have had a problem with bleaching previously, (aw... What a problem) if you look at the recent pictures there is no more bleaching. Perhaps you don't think I put a lot of thought and research into exactly how far away to keep that light so I'm going to let you know. Yes, yes I did. And no, the edges are not crispy.the tips suffer from fert burn
It is nice for you to let me know about your plants, but just because something works out one way for you doesn't mean everyone has to do that or everything is going to work out that way for other people. Just saying.
iam a adult with owned property(no rent yeah!!!) and this is where my hobby money goes so as for being rich because of what was it? Energy, time and space? Since you first said they didn't have enough space and now you're saying I'm taking up so much that I'm wasting it...? Contradict yourself much? Also, no.. My electric bill did not go up that much(i even know the neighbors electric is only 30$ more then mine) . And yes I have put a lot of time into this, so believe me I understand what I'm doing.
And because of that I don't appreciate you dogging me like that on my thread, since I always explained what iam doing not only this thread, but other threads as well.and i always have info from websites and forms backing why i grow this way.i dont explain why iam doing because I dont care enough to explain myself to mostly strangers
nodes space to close i cant find any website or form saying this is a problem
Although Young Jeezy would seem to agree with your grandmother, I don't see what that has to do with anything.
texastim420
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i get that people dont grow in cups because the larger the pot, the larger the roots, the larger the plant. but my cups are modified to let the roots continue to grow.why would i lie about them being root bound.do you want more pics to understand.
Luger187
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this thread is hilarious.
look at the pics in post 819 of this thread https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/414130-carport-greenhouse-2011-a-82.html
that is 2 months of growth. you are on 4 months and yours are the size of clones still.
what is the point of this experiment? no matter what happens, nobody will use the technique because it takes too long
just get some regular pots and throw clones in em. use fox farm ocean forest to start off. that 600 would grow some nice buds if u lets them get big. you would have ounces right now if u did it the right way from the beginning
look at the pics in post 819 of this thread https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/414130-carport-greenhouse-2011-a-82.html
that is 2 months of growth. you are on 4 months and yours are the size of clones still.
what is the point of this experiment? no matter what happens, nobody will use the technique because it takes too long
just get some regular pots and throw clones in em. use fox farm ocean forest to start off. that 600 would grow some nice buds if u lets them get big. you would have ounces right now if u did it the right way from the beginning
texastim420
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i know about taking to long i stated that in post #39
the plant is getting much larger then its sisters now and i have manipulated it into a yen-yang shape
just been playing with them.to see how they would grow when 65,000 or more lumens are feeding them
why iam experimenting stated in post #58
if i wanted tall plants like pics in 819 i wouldn't grow inside
i dont care about how much i could have now
the plant is getting much larger then its sisters now and i have manipulated it into a yen-yang shape
just been playing with them.to see how they would grow when 65,000 or more lumens are feeding them
why iam experimenting stated in post #58
if i wanted tall plants like pics in 819 i wouldn't grow inside
i dont care about how much i could have now
PirateSteve420z
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I havent responded to many or if any posts... been on here for awhile.... I've been growing for 7 years+... hydro and soil...not saying I'm a professional but... all I got to say is... WOW! and not in a good way! ......................wow....
PirateSteve420z
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I just re read this post.... again... WOW! Can I borrow the 600?