my challenge to the right wing ideologies
- Thread starter UncleBuck
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Buck, I hold no animosity against you for defending what you believe to be right and good, but railing against me because you believe me to be on the other side of the fence is tilting at windmills.
I do not like our current POTUS, nor did I particularly like the previous & I damn sure doubt I'll be enamored by the next.
They are simply figureheads that march to the same drummer determined to use the masses for their pleasure.
Long ago I gave up the idea that any of them actually worked for me.
Peace.
MuyLocoNC
Well-Known Member
Well, if you want to play that game, ALL of the debt we have can be placed on the policies of Presidents that came before Bush, just like the opponents of those policies said at the time of their passing. They will bankrupt our country. So let's stick to the real numbers, you have a valid argument, you don't need to spoil it with fantasy accounting.
Bush accrued just under 5 trillion in debt in 8 years, Obama will end up around 7 in about 3 years, and submitted a budget that accrues another 10 over the next 10 years. With the cuts in place it looks like we will only go to about $23-24 trillion in debt after a second Obama term. As long as there is no further Stimuli of course.
In any case you've exposed the complacency that both parties AND the populace had for most of the 2000's. How about we just say, "you win" "fair point" and get right back to cutting the equivalent of $2.2 trillion a year out of our annual budget for the next 10 years and get back down around $9 trillion instead of ending up at $24 trillion.
Bush accrued just under 5 trillion in debt in 8 years, Obama will end up around 7 in about 3 years, and submitted a budget that accrues another 10 over the next 10 years. With the cuts in place it looks like we will only go to about $23-24 trillion in debt after a second Obama term. As long as there is no further Stimuli of course.
In any case you've exposed the complacency that both parties AND the populace had for most of the 2000's. How about we just say, "you win" "fair point" and get right back to cutting the equivalent of $2.2 trillion a year out of our annual budget for the next 10 years and get back down around $9 trillion instead of ending up at $24 trillion.
WillyBagseed
Active Member
The "debt limit" vote has nothing to do with how much we can spend. It does have to do with the fact we spend money before we have it to pay the bills. This bullshit going on the last month was all about raising the limit so we can pay bill Congress ALREADY racked up, not what they are going to spend in the future.
beardo
Well-Known Member
It's a douch vs turd argument
I'm with you that he sucked, just like the one befor and just like the one after.
The last good one was Kennedy, His brother would have been another good president, since the kudayta it has been all down hill and gathering momentum.
UncleBuck
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beardo
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https://www.rollitup.org/politics/13659-bushco-strikes-our-wallets.html
I miss medi man, What happened to him? Hope all is well . Med man.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
i hope medman is well.
but medman was a pure lefty, way further left than i am. he was the one who brought up the record debt increase, not some righty.
keep digging.
beardo
Well-Known Member
I'm not left or right or dem or repub i'm just extreem, and side with those arguments that make sense to me. having people going with the team mentality the us vs them and winners and loosers mentality is the problem. Going with your party because thats your guy is a huge mistake, I don't care in the Prez is Dem or Repub if he's doing what is best for our country- Which to me would mean massive changes.
Wrong debate for me I guess.
Just curious here!!
And that would be because.............why?
beardo
Well-Known Member
because he's related to Bush and Cheney ?
Lifetime Right winger and I have to agree withmost of what you say. I'm way to old to believe a politician, right or left.
I don't hate Obama any more or less than Bush. Same debt, same war same bullshit.............very disheartening!!
Yep, you are correct. Obama will have spent as much as Bush in one term, than what Bush did in two. AND LET'S LOOK AT WHAT WAS SPENT ON WHAT, because that's a big deal... I don't remember the Bush Admin. devoting money to FUCKING CHILD OBESITY AND DEDICATING SO MUCH MONEY TO TRIVIAL matters. Not a Bush fan, but I sure as fuck am no Obama fan. Sick of the left and right wingers here. I go for issues that make sense, I don't finger point. Offer a fucking solution if you're going to point out the problem, OTHERWISE DON'T START A THREAD ON THIS BULLSHIT.
jeff f
New Member
hey dummy, concentrate. the only people who were panicking in this debate were liberals. the tea party remained strong. tea party had everyone by the balls the whole time.
yep, the bamster was the one scaring granny she aint gonna get no check. nope, i listen to a few conservatives, laura ingraham, rush, no panic there. they told grandma she would get her check.
i wish the t party would have held out a little longer, but i admire them as freshman for what they did.
It's the politics section of the forum. Politics is, for the most part, bullshit.
jeff f
New Member
egg-fucking-zactly.
you will find that we went ballistic when bush started his rampage. it was almost as if he had gone fucking mad. picking harriet myers for justice? wtf?