Hermies are bad........or are they?

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timmy78

Member
Hey guys, so I had my lone plant turn hermie on me 5 weeks into flowering. I immediately did some research to try and find out what my recourse should be. I came across a few posts of people saying that hermies were great and someone even said he prayed he'd get a hermie because not only would he have great seeds for future grows but buds on a hermie plant are much larger and denser. Are hermies necessarily a bad thing, it doesn't sound like it from what I've read, with the exception of picking seeds out of your buds before you smoke it. I also read a post from a guy who grew all his plants over the span of 3 years from hermie seeds and 90% were female, the other 10% hermie and NO males. Could this be true? What do you guys think?
 
ShadyStoner

ShadyStoner

New Member
Not saying its true or not but don't believe everything you read or hear....

I personally don't like seeds in my bud
 
max316420

max316420

Well-Known Member
The info you read was BAD, A HERMI PLANT WILL PRODUCE HERMI SEEDS WHICH WILL PRODUCE HERMI PLANTS.. It like a revolving door. Whoever said hermi's are good is FUCKIN RETARDED
 
johnman2880

johnman2880

Active Member
timmy78 said:
Hey guys, so I had my lone plant turn hermie on me 5 weeks into flowering. I immediately did some research to try and find out what my recourse should be. I came across a few posts of people saying that hermies were great and someone even said he prayed he'd get a hermie because not only would he have great seeds for future grows but buds on a hermie plant are much larger and denser. Are hermies necessarily a bad thing, it doesn't sound like it from what I've read, with the exception of picking seeds out of your buds before you smoke it. I also read a post from a guy who grew all his plants over the span of 3 years from hermie seeds and 90% were female, the other 10% hermie and NO males. Could this be true? What do you guys think?
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If it turned hermie out of luck then toss it.If you FORCE a hermie by chemically altering it then thats the hermie you want.you just have a eddie murphy kind of woman.nothing special bout that lol.nothing worse than a hot chic flips her skirt up and her dick is bigger than yours! (and thats when he-she bends it in half)
 
max316420

max316420

Well-Known Member
Here is one method...


Grow
RODELIZATION: SOMA'S WAY TO FEMALE SEEDS

Here’s an easy, environmentally friendly method for breeding feminized seeds.

by SOMA
Wed, Jul 30, 2003 12:00 am
more: grow articles, soma, breeding, seed company, strains

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Story by Soma
Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds. All of these methods are harsh on the plants, and some, like the gibberellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner, more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds. Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, rather than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher pH, some a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like much less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can’t treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown the same strains for close to a decade, and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and in learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.

I named this new method "Rodelization," after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plants in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas." A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built-in safety factor so that in case of severe conditions, the plant can make sure the species is furthered.

To me, a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male-banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop, or at the very least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emergency devices out. I call them "emergency devices" because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plants 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed, and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one or two months and still remain potent.

For the next phase, you need to have a separate crop that’s already 2 1/2 weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bags of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut all the fans in the growroom down. Then take a very fine paintbrush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with up to 10 different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time (two crops), but is completely organic, and lets you have great-quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers who’s never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross-pollinating. The older females with the male bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, unpollinated females after they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later, you will have ripe 100% feminized seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from ThSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: Drop seeds not bombs
 
GidgetGrows

GidgetGrows

Well-Known Member
If its your only plant and you have no access to seeds, hermi won't kill you.
All plants are different and can have mild or drastic hermaphrodism. If its only a couple sacks here or there I'd just pluck them and keep growing. Yes, you will get some seed. But as long as you wait until the seeds are ripe, your bud will probably be ready too.
I've also heard the theory that if your bud get pollinated, (male or hermi) that it stops seeking out pollen and instead produces more THC as a protectant for the forming seeds.

But basically, if you've got nothing to lose, just grow it out and see where you end up. I personally love my seed collection hermi's and all.
 
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allSmilez

Active Member
I've always had the assumption forced hermies produce feminized seeds only if the pollen touched a different plant, and that a hermie plant pollinating itself will only contiinue the cycle of breeding hermies. I'm probably wrong because I am no expert.
 
smokinheavy79

smokinheavy79

New Member
i thought plants went hermie because of messed up light cylces, thus the seeds would be ok. like if i cut off my finger, my kids will prolly still have 10. i'm a noob though. i just want it stinky, sticky and in my lungs!
 
johnman2880

johnman2880

Active Member
max316420 said:
Here is one method...


Grow
RODELIZATION: SOMA'S WAY TO FEMALE SEEDS

Here’s an easy, environmentally friendly method for breeding feminized seeds.

by SOMA
Wed, Jul 30, 2003 12:00 am
more: grow articles, soma, breeding, seed company, strains

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Story by Soma
Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds. All of these methods are harsh on the plants, and some, like the gibberellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner, more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds. Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, rather than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher pH, some a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like much less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can’t treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown the same strains for close to a decade, and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and in learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.

I named this new method "Rodelization," after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plants in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas." A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built-in safety factor so that in case of severe conditions, the plant can make sure the species is furthered.

To me, a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male-banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop, or at the very least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emergency devices out. I call them "emergency devices" because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plants 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed, and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one or two months and still remain potent.

For the next phase, you need to have a separate crop that’s already 2 1/2 weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bags of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut all the fans in the growroom down. Then take a very fine paintbrush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with up to 10 different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time (two crops), but is completely organic, and lets you have great-quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers who’s never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross-pollinating. The older females with the male bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, unpollinated females after they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later, you will have ripe 100% feminized seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from ThSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: Drop seeds not bombs
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THIS IS A FORCED HERMIE METHOD! lol
 
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