BART jams cellphone service due to potential protests

londonfog

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The first time I tried to use sick leave at the age of 24 my boss made me come in, no option, yes your employer owns you, because fighting wrongful dismissal is gonna destroy most people financially.
Why do you have to ask for a sick day ??? where do you work were you can't get a sick day..???
 

tip top toker

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Why do you have to ask for a sick day ??? where do you work were you can't get a sick day..???
Last i checked employee's had legal rights. They can tell you to come in and work all they like, but if you're "too sick to work" and have sick leave available, there's fuck all they can do to you other than get stroppy. They can't fire you for it becaue again, employees have legal rights.
 

sync0s

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Every time I think Anonymous does something good, they go and release personal information of the transit riders. How the fuck do you people respect this group?
 

Prefontaine

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Why do you have to ask for a sick day ??? where do you work were you can't get a sick day..???
I was doing Special inspections and materials testing onsite in a hospital ER, you see if my company books an inspection and doesnt have anyone to cover that inspection then their would be no documentation of buiding practices and therefore no protection for the owner in case of future failure, basically my job was to determine whether the construction was done according to plan, so yeah I was monitoring embedded mechanical anchor placement into concrete ceilings to ensure that they were placed to manufacturers required depth for that applications load and that they are torqued to the appropriate tightness, yup years of painting bridges and running around on jobsites Fed me up enough that now i an MMJ patient for chronic pain,

you see public entities like port of seattle or city of tacoma, or state of washington, or the army corps of engineers dont want to be liable for their own inspections, so they use private companies to do the actual inspections and testing, that way if there is a problem and it turns out to be the inspectors fault the financial burden then falls on the private company, not the public entity,
 

fdd2blk

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Every time I think Anonymous does something good, they go and release personal information of the transit riders. How the fuck do you people respect this group?
why would a person offer the transit authority personal information? voluntarily no less. :neutral:

NOTHING you post ANYWHERE online is PRIVATE. why doesn't everybody understand this?
 

Prefontaine

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Every time I think Anonymous does something good, they go and release personal information of the transit riders. How the fuck do you people respect this group?
Why does BART have personnel information on all its riders, why cant I just go and buy a one year pass without giving a phone number and address? even more importantly why would you assume that anonymous is a guy actually reviewing the information that they dredged from annals of the bart computers? if you launch an attack of this kind you cannot afford to review the info, you just gotta get in and do it.
 

fdd2blk

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I was doing Special inspections and materials testing onsite in a hospital ER, you see if my company books an inspection and doesnt have anyone to cover that inspection then their would be no documentation of buiding practices and therefore no protection for the owner in case of future failure, basically my job was to determine whether the construction was done according to plan, so yeah I was monitoring embedded mechanical anchor placement into concrete ceilings to ensure that they were placed to manufacturers required depth for that applications load and that they are torqued to the appropriate tightness, yup years of painting bridges and running around on jobsites Fed me up enough that now i an MMJ patient for chronic pain,

you see public entities like port of seattle or city of tacoma, or state of washington, or the army corps of engineers dont want to be liable for their own inspections, so they use private companies to do the actual inspections and testing, that way if there is a problem and it turns out to be the inspectors fault the financial burden then falls on the private company, not the public entity,
that's your companies fault, not yours. there are people higher up that are paid to deal with those situations. at least there should be, if what you do is so critical. seems reckless to lay all the burden on one employee.
 

Prefontaine

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I once got a notice from an airport, informing me that all of my personnel information (from background checks and security clearances for me to work on the runway and within the airport police station) had been stolen, and they were going to offer to pay for one years worth of identity theft protection, cause the CD my info was on mysteriously walked out the door.
 

Prefontaine

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that's your companies fault, not yours. there are people higher up that are paid to deal with those situations. at least there should be, if what you do is so critical. seems reckless to lay all the burden on one employee.
yup and that supervisor basically ran all the good inspectors out of the company, to cut sosts on payroll, gave me a 12% paycut, then jumped ship to be a district manager in the midwest. And the first time they laid me off was one day short of me earning a severence package,

the second time was the day after I gained a new license which would have upped my pay by 50 cents immediately then another dollar after passing the Washington Association of Building officials interview based on that credential.
 

Prefontaine

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the problem is if you dont do what your employer says, you get "laid-off" due to lack of work. if you do do what your boss says, you might get to keep your job through the winter,

Basically I used to work 80+ hour weeks all summer only 40-50 of which where on the clock and then watch my hours drop to more like 10-14/week in the dead of winter
 

fdd2blk

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yup and that supervisor basically ran all the good inspectors out of the company, to cut sosts on payroll, gave me a 12% paycut, then jumped ship to be a district manager in the midwest. And the first time they laid me off was one day short of me earning a severence package,

the second time was the day after I gained a new license which would have upped my pay by 50 cents immediately then another dollar after passing the Washington Association of Building officials interview based on that credential.
yet you're still too scared to take a sick day?

i don't get it.
 

Carne Seca

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Why do you have to ask for a sick day ??? where do you work were you can't get a sick day..???
The last place I worked sick leave was counted against you. You would accrue "points". After so many points comes a write-up. Three write-ups you were fired. Regardless of the circumstances.
 

fdd2blk

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The last place I worked sick leave was counted against you. You would accrue "points". After so many points comes a write-up. Three write-ups you were fired. Regardless of the circumstances.

why is this accepted?

and they wonder why unemployment is so high.
 

Prefontaine

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yet you're still too scared to take a sick day?

i don't get it.
The point is at the time I had not been laid off, and was told that I could not take a sick day that day, and if I had and they had decided to fire me, I would have been shit out of luck pending a state investigation for wrongful dismissal which is pretty easy to disprove being that washington is a will to work state meaning that you can quit at any time and your boss can fire your ace for anything.

how do you not understand that suddenly being fired means an independent male with no family is not going to be able to afford rent and suddenly become homeless, what dont you get about it?
 

Prefontaine

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The last place I worked sick leave was counted against you. You would accrue "points". After so many points comes a write-up. Three write-ups you were fired. Regardless of the circumstances.
yup if you work the simpson mill in shelton washington, and you have three "events" which keep you from being at work in one year, you will be fired, even if you have 19 years and are two days from retirement, you just lost your pension.
 

fdd2blk

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The point is at the time I had not been laid off, and was told that I could not take a sick day that day, and if I had and they had decided to fire me, I would have been shit out of luck pending a state investigation for wrongful dismissal which is pretty easy to disprove being that washington is a will to work state meaning that you can quit at any time and your boss can fire your ace for anything.

how do you not understand that suddenly being fired means an independent male with no family is not going to be able to afford rent and suddenly become homeless, what dont you get about it?
how do you not understand you are a victim of modern day slavery?

i take care of my family. i have no boss.
 

fdd2blk

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yup if you work the simpson mill in shelton washington, and you have three "events" which keep you from being at work in one year, you will be fired, even if you have 19 years and are two days from retirement, you just lost your pension.
why would you CHOSE to work for a company that treats it's employees this way?
 

Carne Seca

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why is this accepted?

and they wonder why unemployment is so high.
We tried to form a union but they brought in union busters and had an entire department dedicated to stopping us in our tracks. There was a lot of intimidation and write-ups involved and people backed off from forming a union. Then the business shut down in New Mexico and outsourced.
 

fdd2blk

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the points system is pretty much standard in my neck of the woods for larger employers.

besides, who would EVER think of abusing sick leave....;)
i am well aware of it being standard. that was the whole point of my question.

why is this accepted? why do people ALLOW themselves to be treated this way? have they simply sold out on any kind of life of their own?
 
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