hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Hey cg my pre harvest and harvest pics are up in my journal if you got time checkem out
20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction
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davidgrimm
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If you are still looking for someone to donate medicine to I would like to suggest you review WAMM. It is out of the area that you wanted to stay in but it is made up of truly ill patients mainly terminal cases. It's located in Santa Cruz, has operated since 1996 and is run by an individual named Valerie Corral. If interested you can review its website at WAMM.org. As an aside, it was busted by the DEA about 10 years ago and the local supervisors (or city council, I don't remember which) had WAMM pass out its medicine on the court house steps while the politicians watched so the DEA wouldn't give them any hassles. I don't have any connection to the group but have watched it from afar and always thought it would be a great group to support, if I ever got the chance financially.
collective gardener
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What do you mean, "if you have time". I always got time for my brother's and sister's grows. Always. That's what this whole thing is about, man. It can get pretty lonely in a grow room. Without places and people like this to share the experiance, growing would still be a very VERY lonely endeaver. I'm going to your op right now.
collective gardener
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Where did your journal go? Send link. I went to link at bottom of your post...no recent pics.
collective gardener
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Yes Yes YES. This is perfect. Thank you soooooo much. I'm checking out the site now. My wife is leaving is an hour for the Bay area and I'm going to send her with a package in case I can talk with The WAMM folks and set up a delivery this weekend. She can drop it off on her way home Monday. Thank you for this.
collective gardener
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I checked out the HERO. It may have a place on the trim table. We like to remove the buds from the branch before trimming. That seems like it would be dangerous with the hero. You'd still need to do some hand trimming. We use the Hydrofarm curved spring loaded shears. They are GREAT.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
There on page 45
collective gardener
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Dude...what am I missing? I only see 17 pages on your thread. Just post me a link here. I want to see this shit.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
let me check il get to the bottom of this
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
TheLastWood
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Yeah I use the spring loaded fiskars with the short bladees. The spring is perfect I can feel if I'm cutting a bud and stop.
I wonder if industrial trimmers catch the keef they knock off. I know in amsterdam they vibrate the keif off then sell the buds at a lot of places. Subcool talks about it in his journal.
Maybe that's why I've never bought buds as frosty as the ones I've ggrown.
I wonder if industrial trimmers catch the keef they knock off. I know in amsterdam they vibrate the keif off then sell the buds at a lot of places. Subcool talks about it in his journal.
Maybe that's why I've never bought buds as frosty as the ones I've ggrown.
collective gardener
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That fucking keifing deal is fucked. I knew a group of Canadians with a monster op who started pulling that shit. The good news is that here in Cali, you'll take a huge price cut for that. We try not to handle the buds any more than we have to. I used to rag on Helper D for rubbing the watering wand against the buds.
The reason we use the Hydrofarm shears is the curved blades. It makes it easy to shear the leaves right at the bud. We try and remove all visable leaf matter. Even if they're crystalized they gotta go. We make keif with the trim and small buds. I put all that shit in a food processor before we screen it. I'm going to Hempcon next weekend to pick up a keif tumbler. To me, keif from kill bud is the most powerful thing you can smoke. I love giving people eif hits and watching them fry.
collective gardener
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I checked that shit out. Fantastic, man. That looks like the best timing on the flush I've ever seen. How long was the flush?
Wolverine97
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Word. Just commented on this in M Rize's hash thread. Kief is the way to go imo, it's versatile, you can press it, rollitup, bowlitup, whatever... And when properly sieved, it's really the cleanest best tasting smoke one can have. I don't do water hash, I'm not huge on bho, but love me some kief.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
hey CG flush was 2 weeks with 8 res dumps to ensure fresh water for the flush. started the flush at week 7 and finish at 9 the orange kush
loves the 9weeks starts geting purple and blue
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
wow its that important to get every single leaf off? thats got to be a nightmare for trimming!
collective gardener
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hey CG flush was 2 weeks with 8 res dumps to ensure fresh water for the flush. started the flush at week 7 and finish at 9 the orange kush
loves the 9weeks starts geting purple and blue
That's the way to go, man. 8 res dumps. Nice. That shows a real commitment to the quality of your product. It's that kind of hard work that will keep you growing while the 90%ers fall by the wayside. We're in a real transition stage of this industry. Standards are going up coast to coast. I have a friend in Arizona that said just last year they saw the last of the sexy mexi compacto. It seems that every week the standards go up. I'd rather see the standards go up than the prices go down. I am starting to get the feeling you'd feel the same.
California is going to legalize recreational use next election. My attorney says that gives us 3-5 years to either get onboard, or get fucked. For me, this med op is just to legally hone my skills. Those of us that can totally dial in just 1 or 2 strains could ride this new wave for a while. There will be huge grow ops undercutting us small guys. But, they shouldn't scare us. There's no way to mass produce and keep up the quality. You think they're going to hand trim? HA! Hopefully it will mirror the California wine industry: A few big players, and a buttload of small guys producing a perfect product that's always in demand. I also see groups of growers like you and me pooling our resources to compete in a new market. Can you imagine what will happen when California can export to the entire country? Shit, we already do. Everything is in place. The genetics are here. The tallant is here. It's gonna be a big fucking cash pie, and all we want is a crumb.
Anyways, buddy. Keep up the great work. Where are you located, anyways?
kevin murphy
New Member
hows things on this mega grow collective mate all blooming great i hope pal..
collective gardener
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All good on the western front. Found out today that the 6" Hugo blocks are not quite big enough for our current plant size. I ordered a couple cases of 8" Big Mamma blocks. I got to the op late this morning. It had been about 28 hrs since the last watering. The blocks were very light. The plants were not wilted, but I'm sure they were close. To increase the water capacity of these plants I put 4 " of croutons in 2 gallon pots and placed the Hugo blocks in the pot on top of the croutons. That will get these 30 plants through this harvest. All future plants will be a 4" Delta block on top of an 8" Big Mama block. Believe it or not, the Big Mama block hold almost a full gallon of water.
After that event I spent a few hours removing the fan leaves from my 4 week plants. I know this will rile a few people up LOL. The majority of my growing career I would never cut a leaf off. But, once I saw the results in a friends grow, I'll never go back. Now the plants are just 4-6 long branches with golf ball size buds totally exposed to the light. I end up getting nice marketable buds right down to the lowest ones. It improves air circulation and makes trimming far easier. The overall bud weight of a pruned and un-pruned plant are about the same. But the un-pruned plant ends up with about 25% un-marketable buds. I see this as 25% increase in yield. I kow many people swear by not pruning. And if it works for you...stick with it. But, for those of you that consistantly seek improvement, give it a try on a few plants. I promise you will be happy with the results.
kevin murphy
New Member
nice post mate and yea i do that sumtimes with the leaves just not alot of em loll
