MEGAyielder420
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Gotta love that! California Love!
1600Kw vertical grow tent. Hybrid Aero/RDWC build.
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drekoushranada
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So its day 38 of flower and I have yet to see a major or minimal increase in bud size. Any suggestions or just wait for it? The ppm are at 800 or so BTW.
SWUSAZ
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Drekoushranda have you been using tea by chance? Are you below 12hrs on the light on schedule maybe go down and hr that may help them to trigger them to bulk a tad faster but at only 40 days I think all is well. When it gets to 50 I decrease the time an hour and see what the effects are, not sure but it worked for me using LED.
Jozikins
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800 ppm is pretty low for week 5, week 5 is the heaviest feeding period, so go ahead and bump it up to 950 or 1000ppm. Week 6 bump it to 1000ppm - 1100ppm, and from there on out you can start flushing or bump it back down to 600 for the last week before flush. Depends on if you are flushing for 1 or 2 weeks. That should help fatten them up.
You are doing good with the minimalist theory here, more is less. But during week 4-6 is the plant's heaviest feeding schedule. Week 5 is usually when it starts, unless you have a 6 or 7 week bloomer.
You are doing good with the minimalist theory here, more is less. But during week 4-6 is the plant's heaviest feeding schedule. Week 5 is usually when it starts, unless you have a 6 or 7 week bloomer.
drekoushranada
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Yes I am using Tea. I am right at 12hrs of light.
Ok the reason I kept it at 800 is because the tips were yellow. But I just was not sure if it was nute burn or not. I will get some more Bloom nutes on friday and up the feeding to 1000ppm. Any additives you all suggest during this time?
Jozikins
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I can think of a million different additives. I believe you are about ready for the kool bloom dry formula, if not the liquid is still always great. Floralicious and floralicious plus. MOAB is very effective for the first two and final two weeks, but that shit is dangerous so be careful! The fox farm trio pack of finishers is actually excellent. I do not like Fox Farm that much, but the ripeners are fucking amazing, just synthetic as it gets. So is MOAB though. Bud XL, Top Booster, and Shooting Powder from H&G are some of the most effective flower boosters I have ever used, but they are expensive components.
Usually your best bet is using boosters from your current manufacturer.
Usually your best bet is using boosters from your current manufacturer.
drekoushranada
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Right now im using Dyna Grow nutes and I dont think they make any. I think I will give the Kool Bloom powder a run to see how it works. I need to order my microscope as well.
wiimb
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Dre lovely looking set up and plants, sorry to hack ya thread, but could you or jozinkins look at this for me and tell me what ya's think?
They are 1 week 5 days into flowering and this is what i do daily before and after i add water readings and i think i could do with some more tips and i seen you's two mentioned are pretty clueded up lol
E and M means Edwina and Montana.
They are 1 week 5 days into flowering and this is what i do daily before and after i add water readings and i think i could do with some more tips and i seen you's two mentioned are pretty clueded up lol
E and M means Edwina and Montana.
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drekoushranada
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No problem bro. Ask your questions. Its nothing but love and knowledge in this thread.Thats everything bascailly, im using advance nutes sensi grow/bloom
MEGAyielder420
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Dre I have to agree with Jo on this one. I think 800ppm is too low at this stage of flowering. My girls are about as far along as yours and Im hitting them with 1150 right now plus my cal mag and my additives. Im like at 1400 out the door. You will know when its too high for them. I have a plant that no matter what you give her low ppms or high she will always burn up very lightly on the tips Ive come to a conclusion that this is normal with her.
I give my girls both the Liquid and powdered koolbloom. I start the liquid KB as soon as the first week of flowering I introduce the powder kb pretty much after week 5. I like to bring my nutes down to about 700 the last week of feeding during week 6 or 7, then begin flushing. Look into the MOAB I heard this shit kicks ass!! If the MOAB is not available to you go look into the HC Gravity this stuff works its just very strong take it light or it can and will burn up your girls badly. Ive seen whole crops get ruined by the gravity. Not trying to scare you this shit is good! I just though I'd let you know.
Other than this your girls look good you can expect for them to slow down a little around this time, with my formula Ive noticed they really blow up the last couple weeks.
I give my girls both the Liquid and powdered koolbloom. I start the liquid KB as soon as the first week of flowering I introduce the powder kb pretty much after week 5. I like to bring my nutes down to about 700 the last week of feeding during week 6 or 7, then begin flushing. Look into the MOAB I heard this shit kicks ass!! If the MOAB is not available to you go look into the HC Gravity this stuff works its just very strong take it light or it can and will burn up your girls badly. Ive seen whole crops get ruined by the gravity. Not trying to scare you this shit is good! I just though I'd let you know.
Other than this your girls look good you can expect for them to slow down a little around this time, with my formula Ive noticed they really blow up the last couple weeks.
MEGAyielder420
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KICK ASS!!!! Im doing the same. This shit has saved my life while I wait for my girls to finish. Good thing the sour is coming around the corner. I got about a good 7 to 10 days left for those girls.Just made a bunch of dry ice hash, so fuuucking stooooonnnnned!!!
drekoushranada
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Cool thats good news. Well I just checked my ppm and its down by 100 ppm. I will be getting that stuff first thing tomorrow. I cant wait to do a Coco grow. Your ladies are looking great BTW. Im going to have to give that strain of yours a try.
vapedup
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GREAT first grow. Dre! Love the set up homie, just spent the better part of the morning reading all 24 pages, looking nice! I've learned a lot also, big ups to Joz and Mega for great info, can't wait to c some. Harvest pics! Some. Advice, u might want to start tying up some branches, cause when they swell, they SWELL, I learned the hard way! 
check out my grow in my link, my first offical grow, cutting down Wednesday! +rep for Dre
check out my grow in my link, my first offical grow, cutting down Wednesday! +rep for Dre
Jozikins
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Dude, I am so happy I found this technique out. My first shake made beautiful hash, and I kept her blond by scooping her up before I gave another shake. Fucking devastating hash man, I'm in the same predicament, my Blue Dream isn't chopped down for another 3 days, and I'm out of everything but this hash now. I can definitely "get by" with nothing but hash, ahahahaha
Anyways, I'll post some pics of this blonde beauty later on your thread.Yeah dude, time to add something cool to the res. But just like MEGA said, Gravity can burn up a crop, but I've had success with that stuff, just use it EXACTLY as they say, do not ever try and go over the recommended dose. MOAB is crazy good too, but it is dangerous fire! I burned up my entire first crop with it. Dre, if you choose the MOAB product, which is an amazing incredible product, seek council on it first from experienced users. I know a guy up here on the mountain that owns the hydro shop, his entire leg piece is devoted to MOAB. That is one hell of an endorsement.
Thanks for the shout out bro, appreciate it. When you are growing trees sometimes the lower branches get a little to fat, I remember my first crop. If you don't have the stem growth to support it (aint easy when they swell up like that) stringing them up is in your near future. I like Soft Tie, you can get it from the hydro shop, and it is strong, it stays wherever you bend it, and it doesn't cut into stems.GREAT first grow. Dre! Love the set up homie, just spent the better part of the morning reading all 24 pages, looking nice! I've learned a lot also, big ups to Joz and Mega for great info, can't wait to c some. Harvest pics! Some. Advice, u might want to start tying up some branches, cause when they swell, they SWELL, I learned the hard way!
jigfresh
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Damn Dre... it's a good thing Jozikins got your back. Good dude isn't he. I thought I'd chime in on a couple things. Like Joz said, 0.5 g/w is a good ratio for a first grow (or any grow for that matter). I've never broken 0.55, and I think I'm doing pretty good.
For the trim, I would go for Butane Honey Oil. Definitely not the simplest of methods, but damn BHO is some good shit. My second choice would be dry ice hash. Bubble hash sucks to make (like everyone said).
MH definitely doesn't pack on the weight like HPS, but in my experience it does give a better taste, smell, and seems to produce more resin than the HPS buds. I think the best ratio for HPS/ MH is 3/2. A 600w hps and a 400w mh would be my dream setup for my closet.
I have the opposite opinion on the ppms than mega and joz. I think keeping the ppms as low as possible while still having happy plants is the way to go. HOWEVER.... that being said, you shared a bit of info that changes my opinion. You said the ppms dropped. That's what's so great about running DWC (or variations) is that the ppm meter will tell you how hungry the plants are. If the ppms are dropping, the plants are 'eating' more nutes than they are drinking water... so they want more nutes. If the ppms are rising, they are drinking more water than eating the nutes, so they want more water (less nutes). If the ppms are stable... then you are golden.
Additives. Something that boosts Potasium during flower is good. I use Potash+ from Dutch Masters, pretty sure most companies make some potash booster I just like DM stuff myself. Also I love me some Gravity. Just love it. If you want to know how I use it i'll tell you, but I'll spare myself the typing right now. I've read how people have lost their whole crop from using Humboldt country's own stuff, but I've always done well with Gravity and Bushmaster. Never burnt a plant yet (fingers crossed). Lastly about additives, I use DM Zone which is to keep the tank clean and the roots happy. I didn't read everything closely enough to know what you are using to keep the tank clean, but you should be using something. Happy roots = Big fruits.
In one picture you showed the stem and how fat it was, and there were some dry/ dead leaves around the bottom of the plant... you should clean that stuff up. They could potentially invite stuff you don't want in the grow space. Cleanliness is next to jorge cervantes, or something, lol.
So yeah man, could you tell I felt like talking, haha. You have done/ are doing a great job on your first grow. You are doing a great job period. Keep it up, keep us posted, and no more girl drama. At least until harvest. Glad you dodged that bullet.
peace
For the trim, I would go for Butane Honey Oil. Definitely not the simplest of methods, but damn BHO is some good shit. My second choice would be dry ice hash. Bubble hash sucks to make (like everyone said).
MH definitely doesn't pack on the weight like HPS, but in my experience it does give a better taste, smell, and seems to produce more resin than the HPS buds. I think the best ratio for HPS/ MH is 3/2. A 600w hps and a 400w mh would be my dream setup for my closet.
I have the opposite opinion on the ppms than mega and joz. I think keeping the ppms as low as possible while still having happy plants is the way to go. HOWEVER.... that being said, you shared a bit of info that changes my opinion. You said the ppms dropped. That's what's so great about running DWC (or variations) is that the ppm meter will tell you how hungry the plants are. If the ppms are dropping, the plants are 'eating' more nutes than they are drinking water... so they want more nutes. If the ppms are rising, they are drinking more water than eating the nutes, so they want more water (less nutes). If the ppms are stable... then you are golden.
Additives. Something that boosts Potasium during flower is good. I use Potash+ from Dutch Masters, pretty sure most companies make some potash booster I just like DM stuff myself. Also I love me some Gravity. Just love it. If you want to know how I use it i'll tell you, but I'll spare myself the typing right now. I've read how people have lost their whole crop from using Humboldt country's own stuff, but I've always done well with Gravity and Bushmaster. Never burnt a plant yet (fingers crossed). Lastly about additives, I use DM Zone which is to keep the tank clean and the roots happy. I didn't read everything closely enough to know what you are using to keep the tank clean, but you should be using something. Happy roots = Big fruits.
In one picture you showed the stem and how fat it was, and there were some dry/ dead leaves around the bottom of the plant... you should clean that stuff up. They could potentially invite stuff you don't want in the grow space. Cleanliness is next to jorge cervantes, or something, lol.
So yeah man, could you tell I felt like talking, haha. You have done/ are doing a great job on your first grow. You are doing a great job period. Keep it up, keep us posted, and no more girl drama. At least until harvest. Glad you dodged that bullet.
peace
drekoushranada
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Yeah the pics were before the clean up. The dead leaves are long gone. I am going to try one of those great additives today. I have been Heisenberg tea for my root zone which has been working very well. Right now I am using the 2 hps lights and I will add the MH bulb back to the mix in a week or so. Im sure the plants would love