newbie here.. help needed.. should i start flowering?

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crisulets

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I have 4 white widows in the 5th week of veg. They`re in a closet of 80cm lenght, 50cm width and 160cm hight (very small i know), in 3 gallons pots with bio-bizz all mix soil, under 150W MH light. I have 3 little fans but i can`t get the temperature below 30 degrees C and the humidity is around 50-60%.
I fed them bio-bizz grow in week 3 and 4 (1 ml/L of water) and in week 5 bio-bizz grow and bloom (1 ml/L of each). I had some nitrogen deficiency (i think) before last feeding (the lower leaves turned yellow), but they look ok now.
I think they are already too tall for my closet.. knowing they`ll grow allot in flowering but i`m worried they are not ready because only 2 of them have some small secondary branches (or how they`re called).
These pictures are from last week but they didn`t grow much since i took them..
Should i start flowering anyway? please help.. this is my first grow. Any advice will be very appreciated. Thanks
 

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greennewfie

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Hey man just a couple suggestions here but maybe you could LST them a little by tieing them down with something to the pot or you could snip the tips to make your secondary branches to grow out alot more!!
i would read up on some threads about LSTing And Sniping the tips or maybe someone with more experience will guide you through it, good luck!!
 
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NoSkillz

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Hope you have some height to work with, gotta remember they're gonna double in height.....at least.
Happy Growing!
Peace
 
stumpjumper

stumpjumper

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Yep, tie them bitches over on their side. Don't break the stem but get them laying flat and those lower nodes will all turn into big branches. You'll get a much better yield and be able to maintain a more even canopy. I would start flowering soon, they are going to stretch 3x's what they are now. If you tie them over give the lower nodes a little time to start branching, then switch them!

Good looking plants though, I'll be watching!!
 
trichome fiend

trichome fiend

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...your plants will double to triple in size throughout the flowering process....so, always keep your height in consideration....how high are your ceilings.
 
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crisulets

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the size is a problem.. the biggest is 40 cm already and the height of my closet is 160 cm.. and i know the light has to be at a good distance.
i have no idea what LST means and how to tie them down..but i`ll read about it now. thank you
 
greennewfie

greennewfie

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LST means Low Stress Training when you tie the top down the lower branches will grow out!! They look good and that will help you with your height problems.. Good Luck man do the research its always good to learn from other growers!!
 
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crisulets

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i`m so afraid i`ll break them... they look kinda unflexible to me. is it helpful if i bend them only a little?
what about sniping the tips? i can`t find anything about that... it would be easier if my english was better
if you have the time and the mood to give more details it would be very helpful
 
greennewfie

greennewfie

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Topping Marijuana- Topping a plant refers to cutting off the top shoot(s) of cannabis plants. You can pinch, clip or snip off the tallest shoots or the freshest shoots. Cut the branch stem just below the last fully developed node,. The plant starts developing branches at the remaining nodes. This is a good techniques to keep a plant short and bushy. Or you can develop many top colas instead of just one. Don't top a plant more than twice and never top when it is in the flowering stage.Bending Marijuana - Carefully pull down the branches of your cannabis plant, or the whole plant, tie them down. You are now forcing them to grow horizontally. The nodes will start producing branches or buds that grow straight up. Bending should be done gradually to avoid pinching or snapping the stem. Use soft hemp string or cloth to secure the branch or stem loosely when tying down to minimize damage to the soft stems. Growth is slowed for awhile as the cannabis plant adjusts to the shock of being bent. This is a good technique to maximize space in a small grow room.
 
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crisulets

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thank you for your answers
i tied down 2 of them successfully... but i broke the 3rd, the biggest :wall::wall::wall: :( :-(:-(. now i`m too sad and afraid to tie down the last one.. i`ll just let her be
what are the chances of recovering? can i do anything to help her?
 
greennewfie

greennewfie

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crisulets said:
thank you for your answers
i tied down 2 of them successfully... but i broke the 3rd, the biggest :wall::wall::wall: :( :-(:-(. now i`m too sad and afraid to tie down the last one.. i`ll just let her be
what are the chances of recovering? can i do anything to help her?
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i was told you can use a say medical tape or something along those lines to tape it up and it will heal its self
 
greennewfie

greennewfie

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do first aid on her just dont wrap it to tight you might have to remove it later on!! where did you brake it from the top, middle or bottom??
 
vapedup

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When u try to LST this late in the grow, u have to ALWAYS tie down at the top, where it is still movable, and u should still tie the last one down, ur in luck, cuz looks like u have a pure indica, so it won't stretch to much. The benifit to pulling the main node down instead of "topping" it, s. The plant just redirects the hormones to the lower half of the plant, making the bottom grow, and the top stall, the key is to get the top branch under the second one
 
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crisulets

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vapedup said:
When u try to LST this late in the grow, u have to ALWAYS tie down at the top, where it is still movable, and u should still tie the last one down, ur in luck, cuz looks like u have a pure indica, so it won't stretch to much. The benifit to pulling the main node down instead of "topping" it, s. The plant just redirects the hormones to the lower half of the plant, making the bottom grow, and the top stall, the key is to get the top branch under the second one
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i did not do it like this :( i started from the bottom and blew it big time.
ok i`ll tie the last one 2.. from the top this time.

thank you guys
 
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lostNug

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I broke one of mine when I was supercroping and it was barely hanging on by a hair sized piece of stem. I was like 4 inches from the base too. What I did was make like a lil support of ttraining wire to hold the broken part up (plant was already lst'd so stem was horizontal) and rubbed some hormex vitamin b on the broken spot to promote growth. It healed within a week and that plantt is the biggest and thickest sttem compared tto the rest. I also noticed that the stems that I supercropped are now twice as thick as the non supercropped stems. Thicker stems means more buds. So id recommend you try some supercropping on at least one of ur plants.

Oh yeah tthe spot where it broke has like a marble sized knuckle there. Ill take a pic of it tonight when I get home. Sittin. In court right now bout to fight a speeding ticket
 
greennewfie

greennewfie

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You have some good experienced help here now to help you through, listen to these guys they know what they are talkin about!!
 
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