I need Help from experienced People...
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Bake&Sleep
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really? i usually go for 6.3 but i have a buddy who does 5 and they look nice (thats low) so anyways i aim for 6.0ph
Bake&Sleep
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and its all foxfarm ocean forest and happy frog blended together and i have coco in the middle layer.
Bake&Sleep
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Update: i believe im at about 2 weeks. i took pics last night, really what do you guys think? im at the point were the little white hairs are stretching out and forming the buds, should i be really pushing the nutes??? Im going out today to buy the trio pack of fox farm (cha ching, beastie bloomz, open seasame) ... Am i looking at a gram per watt?
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Bake&Sleep
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and i forgot to aim my fan one night at the plants and it got up to about 85 degrees... according to my thermometer.
DrFever
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what are you feeding your girls you need to maintain 6.4 ph to 7.0 in soil for uptake of all nutrients
higher temps will cause plants to slowdone its flowering phase try to keep it no higher then 76
adding supliments like fulvix, carbo-boost , cal mag will help you to achieve maximum yields
if your just adding flowering A- B thats just not enough you need flowering powder like 0 -33- 53 mixture
your calmag will bump up your nitrogen being 2- 0 -0 as well with your A and B's
most people will start flushing to early thus taking away most vital nutrients when the plant needs it the most
flush plants last week thats it give plants food everywatering they need it
higher temps will cause plants to slowdone its flowering phase try to keep it no higher then 76
adding supliments like fulvix, carbo-boost , cal mag will help you to achieve maximum yields
if your just adding flowering A- B thats just not enough you need flowering powder like 0 -33- 53 mixture
your calmag will bump up your nitrogen being 2- 0 -0 as well with your A and B's
most people will start flushing to early thus taking away most vital nutrients when the plant needs it the most
flush plants last week thats it give plants food everywatering they need it
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Bake&Sleep
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Thanks Dr. Your girls look nice, why dont you Scrog? Do you feel you achieve good results without training too much?
Bake&Sleep
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Really you think that ph alone can cause lockout? I thought it came from over nuteing?
Bake&Sleep
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come on RIU...
RawBudzski
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Yes a high or low ph can cause lockout if it is too far off the range. Using too many of nutes can cause lockouts as well yes.
Bake&Sleep
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well is 5.0 too far out? i have been aiming for 6.0 recently
RawBudzski
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well, not sure about coco. but in my soil I use water/solution with a ph of 6.5-6.9 Aiming for 6.8
cutaftacut
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I read the entire thread and heres some ideas.
1. Calibration tool. You can't talk about yeild without that. That's insane
2. Sounds like you need to push some extra nutes at small increments and document teh results. I don't think they will die from pushing the envelope
3. Veg height effects yield. Just might not have the hieght space for the yeild your looking for. Taller ceilings or wider rooms.
4. Strains come from different regions with different climates. Research your strains to get a better idea of their climate demands. I wish growing different starins were easy but doesn't seem like it.
5. Your rh should be within the 40-60% range during flowering(Cervantes). I've heard 50 is ideal.
6. Better conditions= Better yeilds. "Peferction takes time" and "pimpin ain't easy"
7. I just thought of this one. Running the lights at non-peak hours will reduce your bill.
8. Never heard of a 3 week flush. You could be consistently harvesting on a downswing by depriving final phase nutirition.
9. Genetics, genetics, genectics!!!
I'm digging the setup and dedication, hope this helps some. Let me/us know what works out for you.
1. Calibration tool. You can't talk about yeild without that. That's insane
2. Sounds like you need to push some extra nutes at small increments and document teh results. I don't think they will die from pushing the envelope
3. Veg height effects yield. Just might not have the hieght space for the yeild your looking for. Taller ceilings or wider rooms.
4. Strains come from different regions with different climates. Research your strains to get a better idea of their climate demands. I wish growing different starins were easy but doesn't seem like it.
5. Your rh should be within the 40-60% range during flowering(Cervantes). I've heard 50 is ideal.
6. Better conditions= Better yeilds. "Peferction takes time" and "pimpin ain't easy"
7. I just thought of this one. Running the lights at non-peak hours will reduce your bill.
8. Never heard of a 3 week flush. You could be consistently harvesting on a downswing by depriving final phase nutirition.
9. Genetics, genetics, genectics!!!
I'm digging the setup and dedication, hope this helps some. Let me/us know what works out for you.
Bake&Sleep
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I have a calibration tool, 2 of the digital pens from HANNA, the ph only one and the combo pen,,, But i dont trust either of them, i am using the iodine color changing liquid for ph accuracy (it works great) and my digital ppm reader always reads regular tap water at about 250 and it goes up from there when i add nutes, so i assume if it reads 450 i guesstimate im at about 200 ppm.... So i kinda have that down, and i also go off the directions on the bottles... So i went out the other day and bought the Fox farm trio pack...They told me at the hydro shop to use overdrive instead of Cha CHing, they said it does the same thing but the overdrive is a liquid so its easier to blend...
So I pulled some fan leaves (only to help the canopy and give a bit of light to more bud sites..
I think im 2 days past 3 weeks now... (i couldnt take pics before lights clicked on me) Ill have some updated photoes comming soon....
I gave them a nice blast of nutes with the SensiBloom A&B, Big Bud, Some Open Seasame and a Splash of overdrive, I ph'd it to 6.0
I gave it a heavy watering (It was dry, but plants looked great!) I was done watering and had a bit extra so i turned the nozzle to a fine mist and Foiler Sprayed the plants with the last of the nutes to basically give some nutes directly to the leaves and buds.... I have 12 hours before lights click, so they should be dry by then, i also aimed fans a bit more direct at them to help dry...
Cutaftacut- Thank you for the input, im kinda stuck in this room until i get a job, then i have permission to take an extra bedroom with higher ceilings and its actually a long room so it will be great, but that seems far off.
As far as Genetics goes, Everyone at the shops dont give good advice on that, they sell what they got.... I need something that will save me from 2 bad grows in a row... How is Big Bud?
cutaftacut
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Meant solution. calibration solution. my bad
Bake&Sleep
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Okay So this is the 3rd time my electrodes are all ****** up... As you can see i purchased storage solution last time to help preserve the diodes in the digital meters, but they are for sure screwed up again... I am basically guesstimating the ppm's and im using the liquid iodine solution to check PH right now...
My red PH Pen is just not accurate (It was a brand new 4.01 solution and it reads 7.3) and the Black combo pen flashes 1400 PH, so there is something wrong with that, its not suppose to flash...
*Side note: Red Pen has 100% battery, Black Pen has 80% battery.
So i've included a pic of what i think may be first signs of nute burn on the leaves,,, and I Hope they are not balls but i took a pic of what i hope is okay... I had 2 runs with seeds so now im seed paranoid. I use reverse so it should be fine though, but what are your thoughts on the balls? or calyxes?
My red PH Pen is just not accurate (It was a brand new 4.01 solution and it reads 7.3) and the Black combo pen flashes 1400 PH, so there is something wrong with that, its not suppose to flash...
*Side note: Red Pen has 100% battery, Black Pen has 80% battery.
So i've included a pic of what i think may be first signs of nute burn on the leaves,,, and I Hope they are not balls but i took a pic of what i hope is okay... I had 2 runs with seeds so now im seed paranoid. I use reverse so it should be fine though, but what are your thoughts on the balls? or calyxes?
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Anybody wanna drop a comment?
Bake&Sleep
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Also I Veg under Shop lights,,, one shop light one plant light, Do you guys think Veg has anything to do with yield? I veg for so long it seems like they are Huge when they gointo flower, i usually have to take clones off them before flowering to help them fit...
Bake&Sleep
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week 4, I have been using open seasame, Big bud, just did bestie bloomz last night, instead of cha ching they gave me something else in liquid form which is suppose to do the same thing (uptake nutes?) i forget what its called im not there right now... and very small amounts of bud blaster,,, also a splash of calmag once, and of course always the base A and B of SensiBloom... Ah i also put a splash of molassis "feed brand" in the resivour...
What do you guys think so far? I am not sure what to do with the undergrowth,,, it kinda looks nice but ive heard i can make the tops better if i remove them?
at any point can i remove all the fan leaves? like at 6 or 7 weeks? just to have more light penetrate the smaller buds below the net...
What do you guys think so far? I am not sure what to do with the undergrowth,,, it kinda looks nice but ive heard i can make the tops better if i remove them?
at any point can i remove all the fan leaves? like at 6 or 7 weeks? just to have more light penetrate the smaller buds below the net...
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6 weeks and 2 days...
Everyone is looking really good, almost too good, the leaves have now shown me signs of nute burn, a little bit. Some of the pictures actually look worse than it really is, for some reason the light and the Camera dont get along. I have had the temps start to creep it said 88 for a high.. (not too bad?) I just added a half cup of molassis to the 20 gallon mix, for a hardner...
People this is where i need help!!! In the past it has looked really good, nice big buds, but when i dry them they shrink a lot. I know shrinkage is normal, but i have had several growers tell me i have major shrinkage... whats up? is it the hardnerS?
Everyone is looking really good, almost too good, the leaves have now shown me signs of nute burn, a little bit. Some of the pictures actually look worse than it really is, for some reason the light and the Camera dont get along. I have had the temps start to creep it said 88 for a high.. (not too bad?) I just added a half cup of molassis to the 20 gallon mix, for a hardner...
People this is where i need help!!! In the past it has looked really good, nice big buds, but when i dry them they shrink a lot. I know shrinkage is normal, but i have had several growers tell me i have major shrinkage... whats up? is it the hardnerS?
