Obama's Contempt Bordering on Treachery

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The Cryptkeeper

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They may have evolved from the same side of the coin, but modern liberalism and Libertarianism are completely opposite sides of the coin. Most liberals and people on the left consider Libertarians to be on the right. I consider myself an Independent/Libertarian because I do not belong to any party. My beliefs are more in line with the Libertarian ideology but I don't like to box myself in because there are things I agree with on all sides of the political spectrum and a lot of things I disagree with.8-)
Quite true. I'm purely theoretical when it comes to politics and despise all that bring it into practice. It never works. Good on paper, but never works. It's always a race to see who can fuck it up the least. :lol: At least in the publics mind. The politicians however have other intentions entirely. lol No taxation without representation?! Hell. I don't even want to be represented if I DO pay taxes...
 

Carne Seca

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I've read the Old Testament and New Testament cover to cover.... brilliant literary devices and simply prodigious authors. :eyesmoke: Old Testament was definitely my favorite.
So have I. I've studied the old and new testament in Seminary, Institute and Sunday School. Not to mention mandatory courses at BYU.
 

Jack Fate

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It condemns the acts not the person. Better read it again.

And my New Testament is the King James Version. The old tried and true.
You either need to get your beliefs in line with your scriptures or renounce Christianity. Kinda hypocritical


Romans 1:26-27

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

I Corinthians 6:9-10


9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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Yes. Ask a business person. I'm retired. Remember when he said he couldn't ensure we would get our checks? That is tyranny.
my dad is retired too and he supports obama, me im on the fence, but he might not get his check to and you know what he said, he a veteren or two wars by the way

the countrys future my children children's future is more important and that he has made a good life and has people to lean on
 

doc111

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Quite true. I'm purely theoretical when it comes to politics and despise all that bring it into practice. It never works. Good on paper, but never works. It's always a race to see who can fuck it up the least. :lol: At least in the publics mind. The politicians however have other intentions entirely. lol No taxation without representation?! Hell. I don't even want to be represented if I DO pay taxes...
I couldn't agree more with you on politics. However, there is no getting around it. Even if you took all the politicians in the world and put them all on a rocket and blasted them off into space, it wouldn't be long before new politicians would take their place and in turn become corrupted by the system. I think most politicans start off with the best of intentions. If they want to play ball and keep their careers, they generally have to compromise at least SOME of their values. There really is no solution.:sad:
 

Carne Seca

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Wrong. It says those who "practice" it will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Another scripture says they have reprobate minds. I'll show it to you, just tell me what translation you like.
Practice means actions Jack. Grab a dictionary for once in your life.
 

UncleBuck

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You either need to get your beliefs in line with your scriptures or renounce Christianity. Kinda hypocritical


Romans 1:26-27

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

I Corinthians 6:9-10


9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
if an old book says it, it must be true :roll:
 

Carne Seca

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You either need to get your beliefs in line with your scriptures or renounce Christianity. Kinda hypocritical


Romans 1:26-27

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

I Corinthians 6:9-10


9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Once again, actions Jack. A person can't be a sin. That would completely invalidate the plan of salvation. Let me help you:

http://www.dictionary.com
 

Jack Fate

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Practice means actions Jack. Grab a dictionary for once in your life.
I have a Greek and a Hebrew dictionary for scripture and it's very handy and close by if you need to use it. What words do you need to know the meaning of? I'm also a bible student just like you claim to be.
 

Carne Seca

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I have a Greek and a Hebrew dictionary for scripture and it's very handy and close by if you need to use it. What words do you need to know the meaning of? I'm also a bible student just like you claim to be.
Yet you know nothing of free agency. Yeah you Biblical warrior you.
 

UncleBuck

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christianity is false.

there is no way the diversity we see today can have originated from two people, science has proven this beyond any doubt.

thus, there was no adam and eve, thus there was no original sin.

no original sin means no need for someone to die for your sins, i.e. christ is wholly unnecessary.

 

The Cryptkeeper

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I couldn't agree more with you on politics. However, there is no getting around it. Even if you took all the politicians in the world and put them all on a rocket and blasted them off into space, it wouldn't be long before new politicians would take their place and in turn become corrupted by the system. I think most politicans start off with the best of intentions. If they want to play ball and keep their careers, they generally have to compromise at least SOME of their values. There really is no solution.:sad:
Every last person on Earth wants to do the job differently. They shouldn't be labeled the same things... lol They're just individuals. The very definition of that word means 'separate'! LOL "Don't fuck with me and there wont be any problems.". The only principle that needs to be had. :)
 
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