Hepheastus420
Well-Known Member
I'm against it, let the debating begin. no arguing, just good debates.
Abortion.
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Abortion makes me uneasy. However compelling pregnant people (women all) to carry is the greater evil. cn
Hepheastus420
Well-Known Member
I believe they had the choice to either get surgery to not have a kid, use condoms, or birth control, or just not have sex at all. But they decided to ignore the consequences and got stuck with a baby, and now people want to abort it?
The way you word it makes me seem like I'm thinking unlogically, but these people had plenty of choices and they already chose, so now it's time to stick by their decision.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Pregnancy should never be punishment. The med tech for safe abortion exists, so that djinn cannot be bottled. "Time to stick by their decision" is an imposition of a moral stance. Let's be pluralists. cn
420God
Well-Known Member
Rape victims? Have you any idea the number of girls that are sexually assaulted everyday, most are too ashamed to ever tell anyone.
Hepheastus420
Well-Known Member
alright thanks for opening my eyes to that scenario, rape victims do have the right to abort, IMO. other than those poor women I dont see any good moral value in abortion.
The Cryptkeeper
Well-Known Member
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Why did you have to stir the pot further Heph?! This section doesn't need ANOTHER abortion thread, and you need to leave this discussion in the thread you're continuing it from.
Hepheastus420
Well-Known Member
No dude, I accidentally thread jacked that thread, so I said if anyone cares to discuss abortion come over here.
Hepheastus420
Well-Known Member
For what reasons?
ganjames
Well-Known Member
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/eye/overpopulation/overpopulation.html
like i said before, there are no longer enough resources to provide for everyone.. and it can only get worse.
that's pretty much it, what good will bringing more people into the world do? keep up the fucking and popping out kids, this is their future:
RawBudzski
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Abortion should be manditory. You should need 5x Forms of ID to procreate.
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The Cryptkeeper
Well-Known Member
2 parents agree to abortion = Abortion
1 parent agrees to abortion = Adoption
0 parents agree to abortion = Parenting
Beefbisquit
Well-Known Member
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Pro-choice.
I don't think abortion should be used as a contraceptive - but shit happens, and if 2 people aren't ready for a kid what good is it going to do to force them to do a shitty job raising a child? A child deserves to have loving parents.... not parents that were guilt-tripped into keeping a kid when they're so obviously not responsible enough/not ready/too young/were a victim of a crime/etc etc etc....
Everyone who says abortion is wrong should be forced to adopt 6 children that would have been aborted.... lol
If anti-abortionist's are really looking for moral high ground their time would be better spent taking care of orphans instead of picketing/bombing/vandalizing abortion clinics. If an appeal to morality is really their stance, then show some fucking moral fiber and do something that actually makes a difference instead of appeasing petty religious views.
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Pro-choice.
I don't think abortion should be used as a contraceptive - but shit happens, and if 2 people aren't ready for a kid what good is it going to do to force them to do a shitty job raising a child? A child deserves to have loving parents.... not parents that were guilt-tripped into keeping a kid when they're so obviously not responsible enough/not ready/too young/were a victim of a crime/etc etc etc....
Everyone who says abortion is wrong should be forced to adopt 6 children that would have been aborted.... lol
If anti-abortionist's are really looking for moral high ground their time would be better spent taking care of orphans instead of picketing/bombing/vandalizing abortion clinics. If an appeal to morality is really their stance, then show some fucking moral fiber and do something that actually makes a difference instead of appeasing petty religious views.
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Beefbisquit
Well-Known Member
This is never going to get anywhere.... the distinction between what is "life" is the deciding factor.
I see absolutely zero moral problems with a woman having an abortion because I don't consider a fetus a person.
If you view a fetus as a person, consequently you'll more than likely see abortion as morally objectionable.
Not sure how we resolve the differences between what religious people deem as "life" and what secular people view as "life". (I realize I'm using generalizations in the last sentence, but it mostly articulates my point)
I see absolutely zero moral problems with a woman having an abortion because I don't consider a fetus a person.
If you view a fetus as a person, consequently you'll more than likely see abortion as morally objectionable.
Not sure how we resolve the differences between what religious people deem as "life" and what secular people view as "life". (I realize I'm using generalizations in the last sentence, but it mostly articulates my point)
april
Pickle Queen
I agree, women should not be able to use this as a method of birthcontrol, i know a few women whom have had 4plus each, so horrible!!!
Only women at risk of loosing their own life or victims of sexual assault should have this as an option.
Adoption is a wonderful thing, even better thing is being responsible and practicing safe sex, unplanned children and std's just kinda ruin it
I'm only a cyber whore, I find most real people are fucking dirty lmfao I have high hygiene standards, most don't compare lol
RawBudzski
Well-Known Member
I am now on a mission to become the 1st RIU member to Impregnate another RIU member.