Totally baked and wondering. . .

CinnamonGirl

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I was thinking about the theory of evolution and I was wondering--does the theory begin with one cell spontaneously coming to life? And if so, is there an explanation as to why or how that one cell came to life? I get the part about the monkeys but what I want to know is: What caused that first cell to live? How did it come into being?
 
I was thinking about the theory of evolution and I was wondering--does the theory begin with one cell spontaneously coming to life? And if so, is there an explanation as to why or how that one cell came to life? I get the part about the monkeys but what I want to know is: What caused that first cell to live? How did it come into being?

It was God everyone knows that, It could have come in on an astroid or something, but wherever that came from was created by God, so however you slice it it started with God, you cant create life from nothing only God can
 
single celled bacteria that are created from decaying elements started behaving like plant matter, which eventually evolved to plants, and then fish, and then land creatures. When these cell structures started breathing air...thats when the shit hit the fan.
 
It was God everyone knows that, It could have come in on an astroid or something, but wherever that came from was created by God, so however you slice it it started with God, you cant create life from nothing only God can

sweet cop out. because god is God. and god is magical. right?
 
for the first hundred million years or so, the organisms only operated on photosynthesis, and created waves of oxygen, which created our atmosphere. Nothing could survive on Earth without an atmosphere..
 
think about this, what happens when you put sea-monkeys in a container? they 'hatch' and grow and grow...well those 'sea-monkeys' are actually just brine shrimp. they begin life as a microscopic 'egg' and evolve into this
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an adult brine shrimp...from there - evolution started fucking with its genetics through pure necessity. for instance...these smaller brine shrimp get eaten by the larger brine shrimp, the larger brine shrimp start evolving large and large into different creatures, first maybe a slight advancement to something like this
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a grass shrimp, with built in facial armor (basically a serated saw mounted on their face)
they keep growing, and changing, and eventually you get something like the three foot long mantishrimp
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its all about darwins theory, survival of the fittest. For a while - without brain-cell advancement, genetics favored size over intelligence. That is why reptiles and mammals grew as large as they pleased for millions of years. But since we, the human, a mammal evolved from billions of years of DNA mutation, are clever, we are the top of the food chain. We make immeasurable leaps in technology on a daily basis. But there is much that we could not inherently comprehend. We are getting better...we are favoring less waste and more survival.
 
sweet cop out. because god is God. and god is magical. right?

single celled bacteria that are created from decaying elements started behaving like plant matter, which eventually evolved to plants, and then fish, and then land creatures. When these cell structures started breathing air...thats when the shit hit the fan.

Can you make a single celled bacteria in a serile vaccume?
 
volcanic gasses (CO, CO2, h2so4, ch4, nh3, h2, h20) and electricity have been proven to create amino acids which are the building blocks of life. Google the "Miller–Urey experiment" for a more in depth reading.
 
volcanic gasses (CO, CO2, h2so4, ch4, nh3, h2, h20) and electricity have been proven to create amino acids which are the building blocks of life. Google the "Miller–Urey experiment" for a more in depth reading.

True, but what I find interesting is that the discipline of prebiotic chemistry has pretty much stalled since then ... unless something happened in the last 10 years of which I'm unaware.
Strictly speaking, evolutionary theory only pertains to what has happened after the first complete living cell successfully reproduced. The question "from where did that first cell come?" is great fun to discuss with folks who aren't locked into a particular dogma. cn
 
Can you make a single celled bacteria in a serile vaccume?

It was God everyone knows that, It could have come in on an astroid or something, but wherever that came from was created by God, so however you slice it it started with God, you cant create life from nothing only God can

bacteria flourishes in the vacuum of space/time.
Any answer to the question?
You can not create a single cell bacteria in a sterile vaccume
Your back to the chicken and the egg- Where did your life come from and how? Even within your theory of evolution, how could it begin? How are the elements created and how is the first cell formed?
 
what does being part of this "dogma" you say that is not good for discussion?

do you think people who believe in God do not know evolution?

Odd that you would choose ONE particular dogma about which get defensive.
I'm certainly not attacking people who believe in God. Not my style. However I will disagree with (distinct from attack...) people who'll insist on Biblical inerrancy with its overburden of young-Earth doctrine and other radical disconnects with the rudiments of natural philosophy. Ime these are a minority among believers. cn
 
Any answer to the question?
You can not create a single cell bacteria in a sterile vaccume
Your back to the chicken and the egg- Where did your life come from and how? Even within your theory of evolution, how could it begin? How are the elements created and how is the first cell formed?


The theory of evolution does not treat of these questions. cn
 
Well, one would first have to define the nature of God before a lively discussion can ensue about his/her/its existence. Is god an old man with a beard that sits up in the sky? or is God a thought? or is god the spark of life? Is God the laws of physics and math and music and order? And if whatever god is--created life-- how exactly did he do it? and if it happened once, why isn't it still happening?
 
sterile? once again, algae was created from single cell bacteria. when you trip hard on acid, you know the world breathes. Everything is alive. You are not better than the plant because you have a family and communicate, you are both living creatures. The egg came from a mutation of a mutation of a mutation of something that was some kind of bird millions or years prior, and an insect millions of years prior, and a copepod millions of years prior to that. The chicken came from billions of years of creatures evolving and using the nutrition available to generate tissue. Life started as a baron surface with melted meteors making up the oceans, moving in and out with the tides creating trenches and oceans, designing the map of the land that would be ever changing and eroding into the sea. The bacteria beneath the surface of the oceans would flourish, because it is very similar to the vacuum of space. The meteors could have contained trace-dna that jump started this or the process of erosion and elements reacting could agitate cells into bacteria into creating defense mechanisms, like brains, or the ability to allude danger. The large variety of species on Earth did not one day just appear, that is known.
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