Time to Flush?

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sativaXindica

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Greetings Buddy232,

I use pro mix soil(less) and flush for the last 2 weeks before I chop. A lot of times, depending on the strain, you won't be able to tell when it's done going by the amber alone. My friends Mango Haze never develops the amber color in the trichomes. We also go by how swollen the calyxes are. If they look swollen, which yours don't, then I usually wait about a week, then chop.

Best Regards

sativaXindica
 
Buddy232

Buddy232

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Thank you for the input Sativa. I had meant to reply but I believe I was having computer issue the day I read that. Afterwards I did reading on calyx development... I'd read bits about it but never learned. It was very informative, I appreciate you brining up the topic!!

Here's a little update. My pal Oban checked out some sugar leaves under his microscope for me early last week, a few days after this posting. One plant was all clear, the other had a few cloudies. That means we are right on schedule per everybodies input! ;) From my labels/journal, plant #1 was "cloudy" and plant #2 was clear... Number 1 had gotten nutes over the weekend as soon as you all informed me of my time frame. After Oban's assistance we decided to give number 2 a gallon of full strength Tiger Bloom, it's helped a lot! Let's have a look.

Here is Number 2. This one is topped and has 4 mains. (LBH's Tutorial ;))


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Here is Number One - Straight grown with some fan leaf bending. Picture of the top and a mid-stalk flower.


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Extra pictures in my log.

Thanks again for the help and support,
Bud
 
D Man420

D Man420

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Flushing doesn't have to mean flood the plants, flushing could also be interpreted as giving your plant plain water for it's final week or two of life in order to flush away the remaining nutes to enhance flavor/aroma.
 
Buddy232

Buddy232

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D Man420 said:
Flushing doesn't have to mean flood the plants, flushing could also be interpreted as giving your plant plain water for it's final week or two of life in order to flush away the remaining nutes to enhance flavor/aroma.
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That was always my thought. My first grow and my target from jump was to give plain water for the last few feedings... it just "seemed" right. I've gotten a litttle beat up over terminology from some of the less supportive folks. Seems they are out of towners.
 
Buddy232

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HghFlyrJD1 said:
I flush with 2x the water to the pot size,then after that drains i water with Ph-ed water and molasses
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Ah, so your using "junk" water when you do that? (Tap) Then the good water and molasses. But for all other purposes do your thing up until harvest.
 
LBH

LBH

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Tap is the good water, RO is the junk. Dechlorinated tap water contains lots of essential minerals the plant can use, the chlorine is the only thing in there you don't want and that will evap within 24 hrs if you just let the water sit. When you use RO only, you're begging for deficiencies
 
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HghFlyrJD1

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Buddy232 said:
Ah, so your using "junk" water when you do that? (Tap) Then the good water and molasses. But for all other purposes do your thing up until harvest.
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Tap water un PH-ed..Then wait till its not running off anymore,Then I top it with More Ph-ed Water and Molasses..Never Had An Issue Yet.
 
Buddy232

Buddy232

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Thank's fellas. I get it now... perhaps I was getting my terminology mixed up in the beginning.


Unfortunately I can't leave standing water or really even afford to bubble it until I clear up a moisture/mildew issue. Once we both have time I am going to have a phone session with MadMike about how he went "nuclear" on his place. I've been using poland spring the entire time, I know call me crazy. I buy it wholesale so it's less than a dollar a gallon however it's definently struggling. My tap is the "junk" water to me... I won't even give that to my cats. We just got a letter a few weeks ago saying they under heigine standard for two days. Using spring water though I haven't had to buy any testing equipment yet, just the bare stuff I needed to run my grow. Soon I will be able to acquire that stuff. One step at a time.

RO I would never mess with that. I've worked with fish and RO systems - expensive, pain's in the butt's and serve little purpose. We were still PH'ing the tank water anyways, had all kind's of mineral deficecies (waters turning colors) because when you run lab tanks you don't have fancy gravel and ornaments that leech calcium and whot not. Yeah that wasn't fun. I know many folks though with large urban ponds and they change a few thousand gallons at a time with unfiltered city water. The aneorbic buildup takes care of it all before the fish can really be bothered.
 
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RIMONSTERS

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o wow I'm really glad i read this thread I was about to buy a $200 RO system, glad chloramine isn't an issue in RI, thanks again LBH!
 
Harrekin

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Seems like noone read the link I posted. Not feeding plants towards the end is a great disservice to the time you've waited for them to grow. Flushing doesn't make plants taste any different, proper slow drying and curing does that.
 
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I must disagree with the statement RO water is junk. It is just another level that some people will/need to go to. I agree with LBH that tap water has minerals that the plant can/will use, but these same minerals are found in your nutes. Using tap water takes away some of your control of how much of what nute your plants get. In addition, there is more than just chlorine that can harm your plants. Here are a few other things to keep in mind.
First, we are relying on pipes that are, on average, a century old. Old pipes can leach contaminants and breed bacteria in drinking water. Lead, which enters drinking water supplies from the corrosion of pipes or faucets. Pathogens (germs) such as coli form bacteria or Cryptosporidium, a microscopic disease-carrying protozoan that presents health concerns. By-products of the chlorination process such as trihalomethanes and haloacetic acids. Several other carcinogens and other toxic chemicals, including arsenic (which is naturally occurring or derives from mining and industrial processes), radioactive radon, the pesticide atropine (affecting the water of more than 1 million Americans), and per chlorate from rocket fuel (present in the water supplies of more than 20 million Americans.
 Now with all that out there, it all depends on where your water is coming from, I think you need to test your tap water and then decide. My family medical situation required me to have a Comprehensive test of my tap water. (http://newenglandtesting.com/Drinking_Water_Packages.pdf) My tap water is better than average so I do not need to use RO water, but a neighbor who lives only a few streets away has tap water around 450ppm ( that is all the testing he needed) which forces him to use RO water. As almost everything involved in growing, each garden has its own unique circumstances that need to be addressed. Always keep in mind, just because something worked for one person in their garden does not mean it will work for you.
 
Buddy232

Buddy232

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(Repping MM for his outstanding breakdown.)

RIMON, please do not take my or anyone else on earths views, comments or opinions as the gospel! Everything has it's own application and it's up to the individual person to learn and figure out what and why something fits your needs. The why is much more important. Mike details it perfectly... why he would need RO, if, in fact his tap water didn't test adequate enough for his families use. Personally, I have a new house. It's 65 years old and I have town water (which in the past has been cited twice for having fuel additives leech into it). This is also the first time in my whole life basically that I've not had well water. For this purpose I'm still not at ease of what comes out of my tap and I've sought water elsewhere. Thats my personal need (for now). Eventually I will get my water tested and come up with a filtration/bubbling system.

Regarding my dislike for RO. Again, opinion - however for that application, it was the WHY which we were using it. In a lab setting when your running 20 tank's side by side where everything has to be constant - you can't simply add tap water. You HAVE to use RO, fill the tanks level everyday, PH them everyday, etc. So amongs all the work your actually doing with the fish, your messing with chemicals and big containers of water - all from an expensive system that is supposive to produce "perfect" water. :)

I guess that sum's up my dislike, however I think you get a feel for the exact necessity of it. My suggesstion is just to become and expert in everything and make your own decisions.

Bud
 
Buddy232

Buddy232

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Well it's been 18 days since my original question of whether or not to restrict nutrients. I appreciate all my friends help and opinions.

Here's another update, so you folks can see the progession. Let's kill this thread come harvest time. Also, finally I've obtained the name of the strain - it is BB G Bomb. If you recall these were hermie seeds and I'd sort of given little effort to finding the origins. Recently I got back in touch with the person, and that's what they are.

Bud


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LBH

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Harrekin said:
Seems like noone read the link I posted. Not feeding plants towards the end is a great disservice to the time you've waited for them to grow. Flushing doesn't make plants taste any different, proper slow drying and curing does that.
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I can, without a doubt, taste whether you flushed or not. There are a few other major clues like a black ash, a bone that won't stay lit, but taste will tell you pretty quickly. I agree that flavor is enhanced thru the cure but if the med is loaded with chemicals, it isn't going to matter much. These are strictly my experiences, yours may be different.

Looking good over there Buddy!

Buddy232 said:
RIMON, please do not take my or anyone else on earths views, comments or opinions as the gospel!
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There are a hundred right ways to do some things, ....growing cannabis is one of them
 
Buddy232

Buddy232

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Morning D Man.

Actually I've yet to start a "new" flush after I gave it a couple waters feeds when I first proposed the question. Since then I've just been back to Tiger and Big Bloom. My last feed was half and half - so maybe I will start cutting back now? Perhaps a week or so of water and then do LBH drowning method?

My last feeding was a little weird, all my run off was clear as day - not green and brown like when it went in.

LBH, I wouldn't even reply to folks like that guy! The link he posted was good and I did read it, however the attitude doesn't warrant a response. Just like that "Peyote" fella from the last page. It seems every thread on RIU I read casually, he's got a response on.... either insulting or trying to make people feel like idiots. That guy wouldn't last a day in my old hood.

Thanks for your help guys. I wouldn't be doing well if it weren't for you all! I can't wait to dump these CFL's and get some real results though!!!!
 
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