Barney's F - Vanilla Kush / TGA Subcool - Ace of Spades = Waterfarm - 600w

Bluejeans

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What is your water pH at in the VK? That could be some early signs of lockout - nothing serious yet, but a high pH will keep it from getting certain types of nutrient. I used to see that kind of thing in my soil grows early on, and it was usually due to a high pH in my soil or water. If the pH is above 6.8 or so, that may be what's happening... Do you use RO water, or tap water?
I use tap, with pH down. My tap is 174ppm and 8.0 pH so I bring it down to around 5.8 - 6.0 and try to keep it there. Haven't had too many problems with pH as I have that dialed in real well. I know exactly how much pH down per gallon I need to make that range and I check it daily.

I thought it looked like nute lock-out too, but I know the pH is right, and the temp is good. Maybe she just doesn't like my flavor of nutes (GH)? It was because of this that I have assumed that her problem taking in nutes was due to the fact that I damaged her roots (not supposition here, I KNOW I broke some of them cuz I stood there with her in one hand and roots in the other going ... "damn, how do I put those back?"... I was stoned... LOL)
 

Dayzt

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I use tap, with pH down. My tap is 174ppm and 8.0 pH so I bring it down to around 5.8 - 6.0 and try to keep it there. Haven't had too many problems with pH as I have that dialed in real well. I know exactly how much pH down per gallon I need to make that range and I check it daily.

I thought it looked like nute lock-out too, but I know the pH is right, and the temp is good. Maybe she just doesn't like my flavor of nutes (GH)? It was because of this that I have assumed that her problem taking in nutes was due to the fact that I damaged her roots (not supposition here, I KNOW I broke some of them cuz I stood there with her in one hand and roots in the other going ... "damn, how do I put those back?"... I was stoned... LOL)
Lol..okay, that makes sense then - you likely are experiencing some plant shock from that. Just be vigilant then, and go light on the nutes while she recovers. I see the growth above those rustier leaves is looking fabulous - I'd say she's already starting to recover nicely... :weed:
 

Dayzt

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I tried to get pics before the lights came on this evening, but I missed it by about 20 seconds... a few look alright, but got some yellowy ones as well in there...ah well, enjoy the pics!

Vanilla Kush




The Ace of Spades




...if you look close by my index finger in this pic, you can see the slightly swelled stem - this is where it was pinched and twisted (supercropped).



:leaf:
 

Monkeymonk840

Active Member
I'm workin on gettin pics up but I'm positive u got the keeper. It really varies but the indica phenos are yummy I got one exactly like yours it had the biggest densest most trichs of any plant I've ever seen. The short pheno is the black cherry soda the taller more vigorous indica pheno aka yours is cherry creamy lime green dank. It purps a little on the leaves. The bcs is slower but similar but purps hardcore is cherry ice cream heaven. I prefer the taller vigorous one. I also got a jacks cleaner leaner it sweet sour lemon berry very skunk looking like sweet skunk. I didn't love it but I try a couple times before I select if good still. Ps nice job very even canopy. enjoy. U gotta love sub showin some love. I'm jealous
 

runpinto

Member
ahhh I love looking at bushy pictures, everything looks lush and beautiful... they're a lot more pleasing to me than the gangly strains. It just seems like they're getting a lot more love IMO.
 

Bluejeans

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Awesome job! I'm thinking of printing some of your pics and posting them in my grow room to inspire my poor VK... LOL
 

The Dawg

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I'm Getting A Woody Looking At That AOS Bush.Lookin Awsome I Hope My Girls Will Be As Sexy As Your Girls.I Check The Status On My Power Supplies They Should Be Here Wed.I Will Be Building My Screen Today And Should Be Journaling By The End Of Next Week.
 

Dayzt

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I'm workin on gettin pics up but I'm positive u got the keeper. It really varies but the indica phenos are yummy I got one exactly like yours it had the biggest densest most trichs of any plant I've ever seen. The short pheno is the black cherry soda the taller more vigorous indica pheno aka yours is cherry creamy lime green dank. It purps a little on the leaves. The bcs is slower but similar but purps hardcore is cherry ice cream heaven. I prefer the taller vigorous one. I also got a jacks cleaner leaner it sweet sour lemon berry very skunk looking like sweet skunk. I didn't love it but I try a couple times before I select if good still. Ps nice job very even canopy. enjoy. U gotta love sub showin some love. I'm jealous
Awesome - great news! I'll be really looking forward to that for sure! :smile: Can't wait to see your pics!

ahhh I love looking at bushy pictures, everything looks lush and beautiful... they're a lot more pleasing to me than the gangly strains. It just seems like they're getting a lot more love IMO.
Awesome job! I'm thinking of printing some of your pics and posting them in my grow room to inspire my poor VK... LOL
I'm Getting A Woody Looking At That AOS Bush.Lookin Awsome I Hope My Girls Will Be As Sexy As Your Girls.I Check The Status On My Power Supplies They Should Be Here Wed.I Will Be Building My Screen Today And Should Be Journaling By The End Of Next Week.
Thanks guys - yep, everything is looking nice and green - staying healthy with this ppm level, so I'm not going to up them by too much here. Both are getting rez changes yet this weekend - still watching them go through the stretch here as we approach the end of the first week of flower...

Stand by for a MASSIVE high def pic update!!!!!
 

Dayzt

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Ok here we go... I got a little 'trigger happy' this evening, so get ready for a pile of pics!! :weed:

Some of these may be a bit dark...sorry bout dat.

Here's as close as I could get to a 'group shot'....



~~Vanilla Kush~~











~~The Ace of Spades ~~













:leaf: :leaf: :leaf: :leaf: :leaf: :leaf: :leaf:
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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awesome! thanks for the saturaday eve budporn DAyzT!
everything looks bang tidy!
say i just noticed you have some sort of measuring label on your bucket by the drainage tube.. can you elaborate please.
my baby deep blue seed is ok, but im kinda surpised shes not growiing as fast as i thought.. i mean i have 4 other babys that germed an enitre week behind her and they are just as big as she is now..
Have an awesome weekend.
 

cocakola

Active Member
Holy shit batman do u see the how bushy she is.. Wow Dayzt amazing how you got her trained so , i can even begin to imagine the colas she will have in a few weeks.. I know you got your bra's ready cuz she's gonna have sum heavy tits lol.... Enjoying the show!

Happy Growing!
 

Dayzt

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That is one happy plant !!!! Great job...cheers!
Thanks! :leaf:

awesome! thanks for the saturaday eve budporn DAyzT!
everything looks bang tidy!
say i just noticed you have some sort of measuring label on your bucket by the drainage tube.. can you elaborate please.
my baby deep blue seed is ok, but im kinda surpised shes not growiing as fast as i thought.. i mean i have 4 other babys that germed an enitre week behind her and they are just as big as she is now..
Have an awesome weekend.
Yeah those are them stick-on thermometers for fish tanks - they work okay, but not as good as on glass. I'm not sure about the whole temperature of the 'plastic' either - as it's not as accurate.

Holy shit batman do u see the how bushy she is.. Wow Dayzt amazing how you got her trained so , i can even begin to imagine the colas she will have in a few weeks.. I know you got your bra's ready cuz she's gonna have sum heavy tits lol.... Enjoying the show!

Happy Growing!
Hey coca - yeppers, she's trained pretty well - I haven't tied anything more back for awhile now after the last extensive ones a few weeks ago. But she's really starting to flower up nicely as she enters the 2 week stretch. Should be exciting!
 

aesan

Active Member
Hey Dayzt,

I am here to learn from you! I have heard from reliable source (doc) that you are amongst the best around to learn from, so here I am. I hope to try my own waterfarm soon and I am loving the thread so far, sweet scroggs you have going =). +rep
 

nattybongo

Active Member
Hey Dayzt,

I am here to learn from you! I have heard from reliable source (doc) that you are amongst the best around to learn from, so here I am. I hope to try my own waterfarm soon and I am loving the thread so far, sweet scroggs you have going =). +rep
Dayzts journals are amazing. But make sure you read around for other journals too. There's alot of great stuff to be found.
Here is a link to a quick journal made by Tdooda who made a quick guide from Scottys holy grow which got lots of people hooked in the first place:
https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/rZH0i

Peace!
 

tony1960

Member
Hey waterfarmers and eco grower users: I've had to clear blockages in my pumps a few times in the past and twice today. The design of the pump somehow allows little bits of dust and solid matter such as calcium fallout to accumulate in the air line and make a plug. I recommend that when you first setup the waterfarm or eco take the drip ring off and watch how much it pumps. Later if the pump is slow or stopped you can clearly see the difference. To clear out a clog, simply run a piece of weed eater line right down the air intake tube and really push it in there. For difficult clogs I have used pliers to help me push the weedeater line. Reattach the air supply and check for good pumping. Also reccomend a vinegar soak and scrub of the salty calcium buildup on the drip ring each nute change.

Peace and may the garden bring a smile to you! Tony
 

Someguy15

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Hey waterfarmers and eco grower users: I've had to clear blockages in my pumps a few times in the past and twice today. The design of the pump somehow allows little bits of dust and solid matter such as calcium fallout to accumulate in the air line and make a plug. I recommend that when you first setup the waterfarm or eco take the drip ring off and watch how much it pumps. Later if the pump is slow or stopped you can clearly see the difference. To clear out a clog, simply run a piece of weed eater line right down the air intake tube and really push it in there. For difficult clogs I have used pliers to help me push the weedeater line. Reattach the air supply and check for good pumping. Also reccomend a vinegar soak and scrub of the salty calcium buildup on the drip ring each nute change.

Peace and may the garden bring a smile to you! Tony
Good tips. I recommend you replace the tube that contains the water column and airline with 1" PVC. Allows easy removal of the column (without all the damn clips/nozzle falling off getting stuck in there, GRRR ENNNRAGE) and gives you enough space for a extra air line for a stone in the rez if you desire. Just cut the same length as original and cut the bottom at and angle, drill out the hole a bit to fit the larger pipe and done!

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C.Indica

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I'm late! Nobody told me about this!
But here I am, all subbed up and what not.

So uhh VK or AoS?
Are they both still alive? I think I see people referring to 'one' plant. Hope they're both well.
Gonna start reading up now.

Nice veg shots above by the way.
 
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