AZ BS thread

Wolfhound

Active Member
Now that's some funny shit !

No leaks or running problems with everything going for the past 24. Be green tomorrow, hopefully !
 

swaggersDlite

Well-Known Member
Man this sucks i can't scope my two plants(largest) in the back, due to the way i set up my scrog screen this time...:-( ...things could be worse
 

Bird Gymnastics

New Member
SO I AM GOING TO COURT! Not for anything significantly bad but this new ATF law has me quite pissed. Yesterday I went to go purchase an ar15. On top of that I was getting a combo set of pistols. Anyways when I went to go do my background check I went to pull out my ID and underneath it was my green card. As disappointed as the gunsmith sounded, he informed me that being a MMJ patient not only can I not purchased ANY firearm in the U.S. but can't have or own one. Thank GOD I have some very good medicine that couldn't get me in a bad mood if I tried. But now that I woke up today I feel pissed. I really wanted to shoot that ar15 today on my day off. Because of this I made a call to my lawyer. He stated that it will be a LONG process and ALOT of money and I might not ever win but that is besides the point. Who in the hell does our government think they are trying to take my second amendment away?? I've already talked to two of my patients that were vietnam vets. They said that is ridiculous and goes back in everything they stood for and fought for. Sorry for rambling....wrong place kinda too but I was wondering what your guys thoughts were....
 

MurshDawg

Active Member
SO I AM GOING TO COURT! Not for anything significantly bad but this new ATF law has me quite pissed. Yesterday I went to go purchase an ar15. On top of that I was getting a combo set of pistols. Anyways when I went to go do my background check I went to pull out my ID and underneath it was my green card. As disappointed as the gunsmith sounded, he informed me that being a MMJ patient not only can I not purchased ANY firearm in the U.S. but can't have or own one. Thank GOD I have some very good medicine that couldn't get me in a bad mood if I tried. But now that I woke up today I feel pissed. I really wanted to shoot that ar15 today on my day off. Because of this I made a call to my lawyer. He stated that it will be a LONG process and ALOT of money and I might not ever win but that is besides the point. Who in the hell does our government think they are trying to take my second amendment away?? I've already talked to two of my patients that were vietnam vets. They said that is ridiculous and goes back in everything they stood for and fought for. Sorry for rambling....wrong place kinda too but I was wondering what your guys thoughts were....
The thing about gun laws, or any other law for that matter, is it only serves to keep honest men compliant. You don't see any armed robbers or any other violent criminal having regards for gun restrictions. Shit the toughest gun law states have the highest rate of violent crime. I about punched my TV when mexican president Calderon blamed his country's drug war on our drug appetite and gun rights. Hey Calderon, if you really want to end that war quick how abouts letting your citizenry have the right to protect themselves and quit hating on USA.
 

swaggersDlite

Well-Known Member
one of my by buddies has his green card too. he also has Lots of weapons including a few class 3 weapons. so is he supposed to do get rid of them...? cuz he wont he loves them.

and what im supposed to get rid of my pistols and riffle...i dont think so... The Right To Bear Arms is very important , WTF there starting to tread on me, an i don't like it !!!
 

jjlongo

Active Member
Bird, they cannot check the ADHS website to see if you are cardholder. There is a question that you have to answer when buying the gun or applying for a permit according the Brady Bill which asks you if you are addicted to any drugs - i forget exactly how it is worded. Just answer NO - you are not addicted.

Call me, i have put a lot of thought into this and done some research.
 

phxfire

New Member
one of my by buddies has his green card too. he also has Lots of weapons including a few class 3 weapons. so is he supposed to do get rid of them...? cuz he wont he loves them.

and what im supposed to get rid of my pistols and riffle...i dont think so... The Right To Bear Arms is very important , WTF there starting to tread on me, an i don't like it !!!
Do you remember the $150 that every patient and caregiver had to pay? easy for the ABC boys to find what that transaction was for.... hence the reason I used a Walmart gift Card.... No paper trail... Bet you NEVER thought of that....

My point.... don't ask Don't tell.... and I am not talking about the military.... Only folks that should ever know you are packin are the folks on the other side on the hole.....

I have NEVER owned a gun in my life and NEVER plan on it...... True Statement................
Do you think for a SECOND the government is not 5 steps ahead of you, I will say this you are surly wrong my friend...
 

phxfire

New Member
Bird, they cannot check the ADHS website to see if you are cardholder. There is a question that you have to answer when buying the gun or applying for a permit according the Brady Bill which asks you if you are addicted to any drugs - i forget exactly how it is worded. Just answer NO - you are not addicted.

Call me, i have put a lot of thought into this and done some research.
But filling out the paperwork and SAYING NO... You are violating a Federal law which IN all cases is pursued in the most aggressive manner...

CCW=Less a reason to worry
 

jjlongo

Active Member
Being "addicted" to drugs is VERY subjective - so I am not Addicted to MMJ - so I would answer, honestly and say NO.

Do I use illegal drugs, absolutely not, everything i do is 100% legal as reccomended by my physician - so again, I would answer NO to that as well.

The onus of understanding that clarifying letter from the ATF does not fall on me - it was not even SENT to me. I would never lie in an attempt to violate Federal Law, on the other hand i will only provide information on a need-to-know basis.
 

irieie

Well-Known Member
Being "addicted" to drugs is VERY subjective - so I am not Addicted to MMJ - so I would answer, honestly and say NO.

Do I used illegal drugs, absolutely not, everything i do is 100% legal as reccomended by my physician - so again, I would answer NO to that as well.

The onus of understanding that clarifying letter from the ATF does not fall on me - it was not even SENT to me. I would never lie in an attempt to violate Federal Law, on the other hand i will only provide information on a need-to-know basis.
this is a good legal argument and obviously holds some merit if the ATF needed to put out that memo to try and clarify the statute even though they do not really have that power. i would not be surprised if this case is eventually decided by the supreme court. i know this has already created quite a stir in Montana and would not be surprised if the case originates from there.
 

BeaverHuntr

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this is a good legal argument and obviously holds some merit if the ATF needed to put out that memo to try and clarify the statute even though they do not really have that power. i would not be surprised if this case is eventually decided by the supreme court. i know this has already created quite a stir in Montana and would not be surprised if the case originates from there.
It will be just like Montana, you cant take fire arms away from gun owners in red states AZ is a big time gun state, where's Charleston Heston when you need him!
 

irieie

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It will be just like Montana, you cant take fire arms away from gun owners in red states AZ is a big time gun state, where's Charleston Heston when you need him!
yeah people feel very strongly about their guns here. Montana's legislature has already come out publicly against this ATF memo.
 
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