Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (Scrog Edition)

daveroller

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Hey, Jin. Been away for a while. Was busy with my other life for a couple of weeks, but I'm back. I love the photo of Anton sleeping with his tongue sticking out. Cats do that sometimes without being high, otherwise I'd worry about him. ;-)

I've also been admiring the even growth of thick vegetation and what looks like a sea of tops now. Do you think that a lot of those tops will develop into donkey dongs? That would be quite a massive harvest if they do.

I'm just starting work on my next grow. Planted some seeds that are called "Pineapple Chunk" into starter plugs 2 days ago. The THC & CBD are supposed to be pretty high in this strain, so thought I'd give it a try. Got some of those 6" net pots like I think you use. Man, they are enormous compared to the 3" pots I used last time. Am planning to use that Sure to Grow Hail instead of Hydroton this time.



I missed a little bit of your journal. Are you still using a shop vac to drain your res at water changes or did you find a better way to do it? I suppose that when you lift up the lid of your res, the whole screen lifts up along with the plants, right? Just wondering how that's working out for you. Is there anything that you'd do differently next time?

I got some PVC pipes and some plastic-coated tomato cage wire mesh similar to yours, so I'm just about ready to build a SCROG now, loosely based on your design. Going to try using a fogger again to augment the root feeding. It'll be about half fog, half DWC again.

Looking forward to seeing how your tops develop from this point on. Looking great so far!
 

lordjin

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Hey Jin...the buds look great so far man - beautiful!! Here's a quick shot of my Ace of Spades - 14 days into flower and already starting to purp! :leaf:

Wow, 14 days? That looks like a vigorous bloomer. Beautiful.

right on jin thanks iv'e heard some horror stories about h202 but if you say your putting that much on them then maybe i'll try it out somewhere close to those levels and see if i can kill it. i got a 4" air disc that bubles it pretty good for just a 2 gal res so maybe i can handle it before the p20 gets here then i'll get my money back. can i fill my lower bucket up as much as possible so some of my hydroton and root mass are sitting in the ro and h202 solution while i run my system for a few hours without hurting anything?

the afgoo came out alright kinda subpar but the sour grapes was fire ya they were oaksterdam cuts but a few gens down the line and yes they were in soil i have one waterfarm im playing around with that i just got but besides that its soil all the way for me straight ss#4 mix and ff nutes with a couple extra bottles seems to be doin good get about a lb and a quarter a light.

sorry again jin for putting all my bullshit in your journal but honestly right now im too lazy to start one and see if this many knowlegable respond basicly your journals the shit and i dont wanna be nowhere else

No problem, bro. You guys were discussing growing, so it's fine by me.

Yeah, dude. That 3% you get from the drug store is a pussycat. You don't have to dose as high as I did, but I just wanted to point out how much I used to emphasize how safe it is. BTW I used an extra strong dose this time because there was some muck I wanted to clean out. Worked beautifully. I usually use only one large bottle of h202 for 10 gallons of rinse water, not three.

I have a question about H2o2. Is there a difference between using hygrozyme and H2o2? Which do you think works better? I have used Hygrozyme and I am not sure if they make a big difference at the moment. They are expensive and might not buy anymore of hygrozyme for soil. I only use them 2-3 times during the plants life cycle veg to harvest. Is this the possibility why my plants don't give me more than 2 oz per plant in soil? In a few weeks I am going to start a hempy bucket grow with my favorite plant so I am wondering if there was an difference, using these two products or use both for better results?

Here's the thing about hygrozyme. You guys can fill in the blanks with regard to differences between soil and hydro, but here's my hygrozyme expereience. The stuff actually promotes microbial life in your res. This is supposed to be beneficial, but it sure was mucking things up and causing ph drifts. Now I'm not sure if it was the organics I used briefly (Mother Earth Super Tea), but it seemed the combination of organics and hygrozyme started turning my res into a swamp.

So that's why I went with a concentrated h202 bath with my last flush... sort of to hit the 'reset' button in the res. So I kind of look at h202 as 'anti-hygrozyme.' **Attention hydro growers, if you have cool, oxygen rich nutrient solution, no need for any of those "Zymes."

I find picking up a gram of dank earwax for $40-50 to be of much more value than an eighth of bud from any shop. I ALWAYS regret picking up bud.
You smoke BHOs, LJ?
What's a BHO? I'm sure I'd smoke it whatever it is. Lol.
 

Robert4budz

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Great to hear. Maybe one day you'll get a chiller when the water bottles get to be too much. During summer it's especially hard.

Yeah 10ml per gallon is good, but if you're just flushing with it, you can use a lot more. I used like 283.3ml per gallon (that's three bottles at 946ml each) because I wanted to give them an extra cleaning, but it was just for a flush.

The stuff is pretty harmless at 3%, but at almost 290ml a gallon, it cleaned the shit out of my roots. I use that much and it doesn't hurt my plants one bit. In fact they love the added oxygen boost. If you apply any kind of air pressure to h202 solution, the action gets amplified, so an air bubble bath becomes a cleansing purge. H202 is a hydro tub's best friend, so you shouldn't be shy about using it during flush.
If there was a way to Fed Ex u a splif of thanks .. it'd be on it's way already ! :bigjoint:

I do have a chiller .. 1/2 HP MONSTER .. however, after the cost of set up material I'm try'n to keep monthly costs down. Time and effort r free .. so for now .. it's cheap P.I.N.A effort ! LOL Plus.. I'm run'n 3 diff totes & strains to find one I want to repeat. ;-)

I've got a feel'n I'll need A/C when flowering comes as humidity has been run'n between 48 - 61% and I don't want bud mold. Can't decide if I should just get vortex fan w/ scrubber instead as I'll need odor control. Your thoughts ?? :wall:

I'm LOVE'N ur canopy shots .. they're so happy and healthy ! Thanks for the detailed tips with H2O2 .. I'm scared to hurt roots in any way. :-(
 

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lordjin

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Hey, Jin. Been away for a while. Was busy with my other life for a couple of weeks, but I'm back. I love the photo of Anton sleeping with his tongue sticking out. Cats do that sometimes without being high, otherwise I'd worry about him. ;-)

I've also been admiring the even growth of thick vegetation and what looks like a sea of tops now. Do you think that a lot of those tops will develop into donkey dongs? That would be quite a massive harvest if they do.

I'm just starting work on my next grow. Planted some seeds that are called "Pineapple Chunk" into starter plugs 2 days ago. The THC & CBD are supposed to be pretty high in this strain, so thought I'd give it a try. Got some of those 6" net pots like I think you use. Man, they are enormous compared to the 3" pots I used last time. Am planning to use that Sure to Grow Hail instead of Hydroton this time.



I missed a little bit of your journal. Are you still using a shop vac to drain your res at water changes or did you find a better way to do it? I suppose that when you lift up the lid of your res, the whole screen lifts up along with the plants, right? Just wondering how that's working out for you. Is there anything that you'd do differently next time?

I got some PVC pipes and some plastic-coated tomato cage wire mesh similar to yours, so I'm just about ready to build a SCROG now, loosely based on your design. Going to try using a fogger again to augment the root feeding. It'll be about half fog, half DWC again.

Looking forward to seeing how your tops develop from this point on. Looking great so far!
Yeah, Anton is a naughty little fat bean. He cracks me up to no end, though... and I love him to death. I'm pretty sure this is the closest bond I've ever had with any pet in all my life. He's pretty amazing... more like a little boy than a cat.

As I mentioned to another poster earlier, I'm not expecting that outrageous donkey-dicking we saw with Diablo. Instead, these will probably have more of the traditional OG appearance (chunky golfballs that are spaced out somewhat).

I never did get the vacuum. As I had hoped initially, the plants are way strong enough for me to pry the lid open at the corners to my heart's content.

Glad to see you climbing back on the hydro horse. Pinepple Chunk has a nice ring to it. Those are indeed the six inchers I use. I plan on switching to hail too. It'll be nice to see your results prior to making the switch.
 

lordjin

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You poor, poor man. You need to get a hold of some. You think you get high off of your primo shit, just wait until you get some Bho (butane honey oil)
I'll be sure to mention it the next time I'm at the shop.

If there was a way to Fed Ex u a splif of thanks .. it'd be on it's way already ! :bigjoint:

I do have a chiller .. 1/2 HP MONSTER .. however, after the cost of set up material I'm try'n to keep monthly costs down. Time and effort r free .. so for now .. it's cheap P.I.N.A effort ! LOL Plus.. I'm run'n 3 diff totes & strains to find one I want to repeat. ;-)

I've got a feel'n I'll need A/C when flowering comes as humidity has been run'n between 48 - 61% and I don't want bud mold. Can't decide if I should just get vortex fan w/ scrubber instead as I'll need odor control. Your thoughts ?? :wall:

I'm LOVE'N ur canopy shots .. they're so happy and healthy ! Thanks for the detailed tips with H2O2 .. I'm scared to hurt roots in any way. :-(
A spliff via post would be grand. But we are all good little boyscouts here. Get that, mods?

Whoa, so you got that moster chiller waiting on deck? I'll bet you'll start using it when the plants get bigger. Man, you have such a monster chiller, you could run much, much larger reservoirs and still be frosty cold with zero effort on your part.

You're humidity is high. You're right to think that you need to account for it before flowering gets into full swing. The AC pulls moisture out of the air and ejects water as condensate, so you have the dehumidifying as well as cooling (as well as high power cost unfortunately). If you can manage to pull heat with strategic fans and ducting, then a dehumidifier might be a slightly less expensive alternative. But either way, keeping the air cool and dry is a priority for all growers.
 

MEGAyielder420

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Great Job Jin. The girls look great. Pics spectacular as always, and you know I love me some edibles. Keep up the great work buddy!!
What strain is this in the pic? It looks like some tahoe or some OG cross for sure I may be wrong and please forgive me if you already answered this. I didnt find it anywhere. MEGA

 

jigfresh

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BHO = Butane Honey Oil. Shit is off the hook. I heard of people taking their whole crop and making bho with it and thought that was absolutely insane... untill I smoked some. You really need a piece to smoke the oil with, it's totally not the same just putting in on herb. Anyways, it's like 95%+ or 99% thc. It tastes just like the bud smells, it's basically essential oil extract, like vanilla extract of something. It hits so smooth and you only need to smoke the tiniest bit to get nice and ripped. And the high is really clean too. Its just amazing. You gotta try some.

I'm sure you've seen earwax, or budder at the co-ops... those are different forms of BHO.

Glowing THC:
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lordjin

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Great Job Jin. The girls look great. Pics spectacular as always, and you know I love me some edibles. Keep up the great work buddy!!
What strain is this in the pic? It looks like some tahoe or some OG cross for sure I may be wrong and please forgive me if you already answered this. I didnt find it anywhere. MEGA
That's the last of my Jedi OG Kush there.

Thanks for reading! :D
 

MEGAyielder420

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That's the last of my Jedi OG Kush there.

Thanks for reading! :D
Anytime buddy. That Jedi OG looks amazing. I am a big OG fan and I knew that had to be an OG of some sort. Badass!! Did you grow that yourself? I heard the yield of the Jedi was not the best. What can you tell me about it? Thanks in advance.
 

lordjin

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Anytime buddy. That Jedi OG looks amazing. I am a big OG fan and I knew that had to be an OG of some sort. Badass!! Did you grow that yourself? I heard the yield of the Jedi was not the best. What can you tell me about it? Thanks in advance.
That's Jedi I bought, not grew. I'm a big OG head myself. In fact it's all I smoke and grow. I don't know anything about Jedi other than smoking it. It's a solid OG with dense, earthy characteristics. The high really makes you feel like you're one with the light side of the Force. But when I'm in a darker mood, I'll reach for the Darth Vader OG. Lol.
 

daveroller

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I never did get the vacuum. As I had hoped initially, the plants are way strong enough for me to pry the lid open at the corners to my heart's content.
Ok......... I'm not understanding how you're draining out your res now. How do you get the water out after you pry the lid open? Are you using a water pump?
 

lordjin

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Ok......... I'm not understanding how you're draining out your res now. How do you get the water out after you pry the lid open? Are you using a water pump?
Yeah, it's just a large 250gph power head. Kinda looks like this:


I just pry the edge of the lid open and stick this (with hose attached) with suction point down into the bottom of my res.
 

ChairmanMaow

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I'm gonna ask for it next time I'm shopping. I'm sure my place has it... just never knew to ask for it.
The shops down by you might not carry it, but I doubt it. I've heard that because it's processed with butane, it makes it a chemical drug, rather then the whole plant, hash, or kief. I think it depends on rules and regulations in your state. It's not supposed to be made, used or sold in WA because it doesn't comply with RCW 69.51.

On that note, kief hash!


 

lordjin

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The shops down by you might not carry it, but I doubt it. I've heard that because it's processed with butane, it makes it a chemical drug, rather then the whole plant, hash, or kief. I think it depends on rules and regulations in your state. It's not supposed to be made, used or sold in WA because it doesn't comply with RCW 69.51.

On that note, kief hash!


Ah, you're probably right. They probably don't have it, then. And ain't no way I'm gonna mess with fuels to make it myself.

Nice kief harvest. Looks like brown sugar. I want to stick my finger in that.
 

ChairmanMaow

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Ah, you're probably right. They probably don't have it, then. And ain't no way I'm gonna mess with fuels to make it myself.

Nice kief harvest. Looks like brown sugar. I want to stick my finger in that.
I'd check your local shops anyway. I've seen/heard of it in shops up here, so it's not unheard of. And as far as making it goes, I can't wait until I make my own. There's no way I'm paying for that stuff, too damn expensive!

It's about the same consistency, too. We use our kasher (lighter attachment/stirrer) to pull it out of the jar, and it comes up in little chunks
 

lordjin

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I'd check your local shops anyway. I've seen/heard of it in shops up here, so it's not unheard of. And as far as making it goes, I can't wait until I make my own. There's no way I'm paying for that stuff, too damn expensive!

It's about the same consistency, too. We use our kasher (lighter attachment/stirrer) to pull it out of the jar, and it comes up in little chunks
If you do make it, can you document the process in your journal? Or better yet here?
 
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