Help with Deficiency n Coco + pics

johny1212

johny1212

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swirll said:
:sad:hey lookin for some help guys i have plants in coco and sum seem to b drinking and others not have you any idea what could be wrong? the ones drinking are deff getting faster bud growth than the ones that dont seem to be taking as much! any help would be greatfull:-P
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Post a thread with pics. People are always down to help around here;)
 
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jpill

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swirll said:
:sad:hey lookin for some help guys i have plants in coco and sum seem to b drinking and others not have you any idea what could be wrong? the ones drinking are deff getting faster bud growth than the ones that dont seem to be taking as much! any help would be greatfull:-P
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On the ones that aren't drinking , the drainage of the pot or medium isn't correct or maybe the root system didn't develop as good as the other plants.?
 
johny1212

johny1212

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jpill said:
On the ones that aren't drinking , the drainage of the pot or medium isn't correct or maybe the root system didn't develop as good as the other plants.?
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Jpill, you rule!
Looks like everything is in good shape so far. I flushed at 200ppm and put them back on schedule at 400 ppm/.8 EC. I also did an epsom foliar feed to be safe and upped my protek to 4 ml/gal for extra K. Really, I am doing exactly what Burrr does and will be flushing every 2-3 weeks now. I am keeping an eye on this and it seems like they are all happy again:) Hope everyone has a great turkey day. I will post in a few days to show progress.


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johny1212

johny1212

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burrr said:
They are looking sweet! that shade of green looks perfect.
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Thanks Burrr! Man, I liked your vortex so much I ordered some:) been checking out subcool and tga for a while and you inspired me. Also got some jtr and pandora's box. Trying to get some good sativa dominant strains going and the tga gear has an excellent rap.
 
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jpill

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from the pics you last posted , it looked like you just fed them a little too much. no biggie.. But with that being said i feed my flowering plants at 1100-1300ppm from week 2-7 , When you figure out your regime you can def jack up the nutrients. I always use a (base) A and B ) & add additives from there. http://yellowbottles.gostorego.com/flower-a-b-1-liter.html . Here is the base i use. This shit is super pricey but i like it. Its quality shit for reals !! Also i will give you a very good tip that will help strengthen you plants steam.
http://www.everydayhydro.com/aosb1lc.html <---- for strengthening steams.
The Seaweed on this next thread is very good as well !
http://grow-biotic.com/id70.html <---- this whole line up is the shit !! its all organic,cheap and very strong !! when im done using the "yellow bottles" line up i am switching to Grow biotic for sure . I am going to use this line up and add a few bloom boosters to bulk shit up !!!! i highly recommend this Grow Biotic line up !!
 
johny1212

johny1212

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jpill said:
from the pics you last posted , it looked like you just fed them a little too much. no biggie.. But with that being said i feed my flowering plants at 1100-1300ppm from week 2-7 , When you figure out your regime you can def jack up the nutrients. I always use a (base) A and B ) & add additives from there. http://yellowbottles.gostorego.com/flower-a-b-1-liter.html . Here is the base i use. This shit is super pricey but i like it. Its quality shit for reals !! Also i will give you a very good tip that will help strengthen you plants steam.
http://www.everydayhydro.com/aosb1lc.html <---- for strengthening steams.
The Seaweed on this next thread is very good as well !
http://grow-biotic.com/id70.html <---- this whole line up is the shit !! its all organic,cheap and very strong !! when im done using the "yellow bottles" line up i am switching to Grow biotic for sure . I am going to use this line up and add a few bloom boosters to bulk shit up !!!! i highly recommend this Grow Biotic line up !!
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Sweet, thanks jpill! I will check that shit out. Is it weird I over fed at 600 ppm/1.2 EC? I am running about 400 ppm now. I think i need to go up maybe a hair (450 ppm) looking at color on the newer growth. In the past i ran an gmb and ran at 1000-1300 ppm but had lots of issues and this run looks great at the current 400 ppm with dyna-gro. Also protek is silica;)
 
InsaneMJ

InsaneMJ

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That's gonna be a Cal-Mag Deff. IMO reason being is that coco is naturally mag deff. so you have to presoak your shit with some nutes like cal-mag. Thats what I do. I got 18 clones I'm making into mothers using coco. I'm new to it, but already know so much about it because my buddy does strictly coco and he did a pretty good job giving me all the tips and tricks I need to know with coco. I haven't seen a problem yet.
-I.MJ
 
johny1212

johny1212

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InsaneMJ said:
That's gonna be a Cal-Mag Deff. IMO reason being is that coco is naturally mag deff. so you have to presoak your shit with some nutes like cal-mag. Thats what I do. I got 18 clones I'm making into mothers using coco. I'm new to it, but already know so much about it because my buddy does strictly coco and he did a pretty good job giving me all the tips and tricks I need to know with coco. I haven't seen a problem yet.
-I.MJ
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Here are some pics from tonight. 22 days of 12/12. Do you think I should be woried about cal/mag deficiency? I have 5 Tbsp dolomite lime in my coco perlite mix and I am running mag-pro at 3 ml a gallon.
I have a full journal of this grow in my signature.

The two in the back were the ones with the lime green tips. All 4 are black jack on the same feed schedule 400 ppm 5.8 ph.
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This one shows no real issues or the one next to it.
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burrr

burrr

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Things are looking great in there. I feed under 400 ppm all the time, and see nute burn at 500 ppm. Dynagro is easy for plants to uptake, and they will over do it. Just because we are running low concentrations of nutes that does not mean our plants our missing out on any thing. I add nutes back daily to keep around 400 ppm, my girls eat all they need. When i first switched to dyna gro I tried running 700 ppm, and burnt the hell outa my girls.

Johny, what kind of hydro setup do you run, and how big is your rez?
 
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ihatefoxnews

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A Little late; but you will love this: I calculated your formula to parts per million and tried doing it by mass and not ml; as well and ml. I got to learn more with the program and here are the results!

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So really; this is what is going to your plants I haven't looked at it much but this combined with a def. guide and you will know whats wrong.


...I think you may have K or P burn and nitrogen def.



oh and yeah i'm a genius
 
johny1212

johny1212

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burrr said:
Things are looking great in there. I feed under 400 ppm all the time, and see nute burn at 500 ppm. Dynagro is easy for plants to uptake, and they will over do it. Just because we are running low concentrations of nutes that does not mean our plants our missing out on any thing. I add nutes back daily to keep around 400 ppm, my girls eat all they need. When i first switched to dyna gro I tried running 700 ppm, and burnt the hell outa my girls.

Johny, what kind of hydro setup do you run, and how big is your rez?
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Yeah, they seem happy;) I run top drip to waste and each strain is on an 18 gal. res. once I get the ph and ppm set they pretty much roll steady. I think it must have been the 600 ppm was just too hot and after flushing they look prett good. I think I am in good shape but got paranoid on the cal mag def comment after a couple bong hits;) I know your shit rocks. You inspire me!
 
johny1212

johny1212

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ihatefoxnews said:
A Little late; but you will love this: I calculated your formula to parts per million and tried doing it by mass and not ml; as well and ml. I got to learn more with the program and here are the results!

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So really; this is what is going to your plants I haven't looked at it much but this combined with a def. guide and you will know whats wrong.


...I think you may have K or P burn and nitrogen def.



oh and yeah i'm a genius
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Sweet. I will check this shit. Thanks for helping out!
 
johny1212

johny1212

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So everything is lookin good after the flush. I had a day this week I couldn't get ph down in my res. turned ou my Hanna meter just took a shit. They did get one feeding at like 4.5 ph before I caught it. The color looked a little off that night but since I got a new meter they are right on track. I did add some floralicious plus this week to help resin production. I am up to .9 EC today and everybody looks happy! Too easy, with my old feed schedule I was always battling. This dyna-gro is really the shit. Thanks for everyone's help!!!
 
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