Troops Leaving Iraq

[dukeanthony]

Camp Virginia, Kuwait (CNN) -- The U.S. military is ordering that soldiers crossing from Iraq into Kuwait be returned home at a faster rate, a move that comes as commanders work to break up a bottleneck of troops who have been pouring across the border ahead of a year-end deadline to withdraw, CNN has learned.


The order follows President Barack Obama's announcement last month that he would pull virtually all troops from Iraq by year's end, meeting the terms of a U.S.-Iraqi security pact that set a December 31, 2011, withdrawal deadline.

 

[budlover13]

Yeah. The Iraqis decided that if our troops were to remain they must be subject to their legal system They kicked our ass out lol.

 

[dam612]

out of iraq but still in afghanistan, i dont see too much change.

 

[Harrekin]

Yeah, seems alot of people are sick of "Team America" going where they want and doing what they want...guess it was a matter of time

As for Afghanistan, if the Russians couldn't do it and they're 15 times (disclaimer: not precisely accurate) closer then how the fuck do the US expect to win?! Colt Inc and whatever companies product the Stanag (5.56mm) round will be happy tho.

 

[Charlie Ventura]

The leadership in Iran are licking their chops. The really need Iraqi oil and refined gasoline.

 

[dukeanthony]

The leadership in Iran are licking their chops. The really need Iraqi oil and refined gasoline.

Nothing to do with OIL
It has to do with Location and Religous Affiliation of Iraqis who are mostly Shia

It was the foregone conclusion no matter when we left

However if we had never invaded then iran would of stayed out becuase of Hussein's willingness to go to war with them

 

[RawBudzski]

Our troops will leave, our spies, towels & buckets of water will stay.

 

[Charlie Ventura]

Nothing to do with OIL
It has to do with Location and Religous Affiliation of Iraqis who are mostly Shia

It was the foregone conclusion no matter when we left

However if we had never invaded then iran would of stayed out becuase of Hussein's willingness to go to war with them

But wait! The entire time Bush was president, every progressive on this site repeated the mantra: "Its all about the oil!!"

What's changed?

 

[suTraGrow]

But wait! The entire time Bush was president, every progressive on this site repeated the mantra: "Its all about the oil!!"

What's changed?

Obama got elected

 

[dukeanthony]

But wait! The entire time Bush was president, every progressive on this site repeated the mantra: "Its all about the oil!!"

What's changed?

It was About Oil
Our Regional Command of it.
Stupid plan From the Neo Cons

Funny thing is this was no Secret it was actually published as an Open letter to Clinton

PAY Special Attention to the Signers of the letter

Honorable William J. Clinton

President of the United States

Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President:

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy

toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle

East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In

your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a

clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that

opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of

the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim,

above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand

ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

The policy of “containment” of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over

the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no

longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the

sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our

ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass

destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections

were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has

shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq’s chemical and biological

weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have

been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they

will be able to uncover all of Saddam’s secrets. As a result, in the

not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of

confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons.

Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire

Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the

capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if

we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the

region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a

significant portion of the world’s supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you

have rightly declared, Mr. President, the security of the world in the first part of

the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat.

Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its

success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the

cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only

acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to

use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this

means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing.

In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from



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power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to

implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will

require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we

are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we

believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has

the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps,

including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case,

American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on

unanimity in the UN Security Council.

We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of

mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most

fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of

weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,



Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

 

[Charlie Ventura]

Oh, OK ... now I see that its no longer about the oil.

 

[dukeanthony]

Oh, OK ... now I see that its no longer about the oil.

Nope that all changed about 6 years ago when Bush Realized he couldnt Fool people that it was all About Oil
Then he did everything he Could To Prove that it wasnt about OIL
when in fact the original Idea was all about OIL

So of Like getting caught Sneaking out of the House and your excuse is You werent sneaking out of the house You were escaping the Fire
Then setting the house on fire

 

[budlover13]

Yeah. The Iraqis decided that if our troops were to remain they must be subject to their legal system They kicked our ass out lol.

i rarely quote myself Duke. But are you going to address the issue that we were asked/coerced/forced to leave?

 

[dukeanthony]

i rarely quote myself Duke. But are you going to address the issue that we were asked/coerced/forced to leave?

Yeah I would say we didnt want to go
Thats Cool
Better now
let Iran step on in
And they will be invited by The Iraqis themselves
And I dont think we were Forced
If we really wanted to stay
There isnt shit they could do about it

 

[budlover13]

Yeah I would say we didnt want to go
Thats Cool
Better now
let Iran step on in
And they will be invited by The Iraqis themselves
And I dont think we were Forced
If we really wanted to stay
There isnt shit they could do about it

Hell, Pakistan is right up there with those that would like to step in.

If you don't think we were forced then i think you need to check some indie news sources lol.

As for COULD we have stayed? Yeah. We have the best military in the world. Does that make it right though?

i'll look up, write down, and type in links shortly. Having comp issues and can't copy&paste for some reason.
But we were asked/coerced out of Iraq. Obviously they couldn't FORCE us but it is also obvious that we didn't want our soldiers tried under their law for crimes against humanity.

 

[dukeanthony]

Iran has been waiting to step in since 2008
it was the end result as soon as we stepped in
pakistan is poised to step back into stan as soon as we leave there