hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
yah roots are great! I wouldnt even think twice about it but im just a clean freak when it comes to my res lol
DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes
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CaliMackdaddy
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If you put in tea right after applying h2o2 that could be counter productive and kill off the beenies.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Who said anything about h202?
Bargar
Well-Known Member
I just wanted to say THANK YOU!!!!! This tea has saved my DWC stand alone bucket system! I have literally seen a night and day difference in just under two weeks.
Although im sure it has been stated, am I supposed to get rid of my tea's after 1 week or refrigeration, and make a new batch? I think that's what i read the other week, but just wanted to be sure.
Although im sure it has been stated, am I supposed to get rid of my tea's after 1 week or refrigeration, and make a new batch? I think that's what i read the other week, but just wanted to be sure.
sqydro
Active Member
cheers mr bond, ive brewed up a fresh batch and used the rest of my last one i cleaned the res out, gave it a dousing with h202, rised and repeated, its a 100L 4 pot veg bubbler i built, so no algae inside, a litte i couuldnt get off roots but is now refilled with fresh tea and fres half strength feed and stood water they look happy now, il try post some pics up gimme a second.........
algae roots....
my tea doesnt have a head like most, is this still ok??
thnks for the reply mr bond!!
legallyflying
Well-Known Member
Your tea should get a foamy head on it. The head is a function of gasses given off by microbial activity...I.e. microbe farts.
I would try increasing your water temp a little and perhaps a dash more molassis
I would try increasing your water temp a little and perhaps a dash more molassis
legallyflying
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Either will do. Microbial activity is regulated by temperature
Hi all, I've just tried this using stuff available in the UK, first dose was 18 hours ago. My submerged roots are now
covered in a clear snot which although a bit alarming can be normal apparently. The plants look more healthy though and there are new white roots emerging from the hydroton, for the first time in a month.
Time will tell but looking good!
This is my first foray into DWC, and i've been watching sqydro and others on another UK forum, So thanks to all for this valuble information.
covered in a clear snot which although a bit alarming can be normal apparently. The plants look more healthy though and there are new white roots emerging from the hydroton, for the first time in a month.
Time will tell but looking good!
This is my first foray into DWC, and i've been watching sqydro and others on another UK forum, So thanks to all for this valuble information.
Also i forgot to say i found dead flies in my res a couple of weeks back all cocooned in brown gunk, fucking disgusting it was.
i've now sealed my res and cleaned it and ran pythoff (chlorine).
Could the flies have introduced the infection? res temps are a steady 68f. Thanks again.
i've now sealed my res and cleaned it and ran pythoff (chlorine).
Could the flies have introduced the infection? res temps are a steady 68f. Thanks again.
Heisenberg
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Thanks for the pics, and great results. Glad things worked out. The tea wasn't as complicated as you thought eh?
Throw out the tea when it develops an odor. This is normally a rotting, fecal type odor and sometimes 'fishy'. The smell kicks in around day7-10, after 10 days throw out no matter what. Hope things continue to go well for your grow.
New root tips are the definitive difference between 'the slime' and a simple biofilm. I have rarely seen new root tips or shoots form when slimed, and if they do they become stunted almost immediately. Sounds like you are on track. Could you tell us which product you use? Some of our UK users have trouble finding ingredients.
sqydro
Active Member
Ok so hotter water for my bennies, is there such a thing as to hot?
Who are you on other forums patchboy?
Im a uk user, i used bio bizz EWC, organic black strap mollases, great white powder! Thats all, all available on fleabay, or i can pm any UK growers links to hydrostores if they like that will have the EWC,
Who are you on other forums patchboy?
Im a uk user, i used bio bizz EWC, organic black strap mollases, great white powder! Thats all, all available on fleabay, or i can pm any UK growers links to hydrostores if they like that will have the EWC,
Heisenberg
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the info. Your tea should be brewed at about the same temp as your res. This way you end up breeding only those microbes which are suited for your res. So simply brewing it in the grow room at ambient temperature should be fine. Your res should be anywhere from 70-78ish, and so should your tea.
Matching the tea brewing temp with your grow medium temp is really more important for soil growers than DWC, but is still the proper thing to do. Now, don't worry that adding cold water to the res, or putting the tea in the fridge, will kill bennies. By then they have already been 'born', but too low temps during the brew can prevent them from being born, and too high temps can breed microbes that will not colonize in a lower temp res. Avoid extremes and you'll be fine.
New brewers should remember; the tea works really well even if your brew is not perfect. Just follow the basic recipe, wait for 48 hours, make sure there is no bad smell, and apply it. Do not worry about foam, slight temp variations, ect. Just add bennies, food and LOTS of bubbles and your tea will be enough to kill the slime. All this other information is just incidental tweaking.
Hi, i'm using rootgrow, molasses and plagron worm humus. I've checked ec on all my pots, (all were contaminated and not feeding), today moved from 1.0 to 0.8 for the first time. I can think of other aggravating factors why this happened, such as my super lemon haze clones were taken from a flowering mother, bastard flies, inexperience etc but i'm actually glad it happened now i've used the tea cos i'm sure it would have got me sooner or later.
Hi sqyro i'm patchyboy on the other forum too, but mainly just been reading. I did post about my polytunnel grow earlier in the year but i had to rip it out for security reasons and ended up with just one medium sized plant.
Tea forever!
Hi sqyro i'm patchyboy on the other forum too, but mainly just been reading. I did post about my polytunnel grow earlier in the year but i had to rip it out for security reasons and ended up with just one medium sized plant.
Tea forever!
Heisenberg
Well-Known Member
The flies could have introduced an infection, but most likely their bodies simply provided a source of organic material for the slime to feed on. It was probably already lurking.
Thanks so much, i can see improvement by the hour. Some of the biofilmy looking rootballs are now regenerating white hairy shoots also and there is a bubbly film gathering on the sides of the res at the tide mark now.
My plants were showing overwatering symptoms which i guess is what happens when roots get suffocated and of course sterilizing helped a bit but wasn't going to be a cure.
I was close to binning the lot and going with soil but no need when good people share their wealth of knowledge.
I know my tea brew could do to be kept a bit warmer so i used hot tap water with molasses, then let it bubble till the temp dropped to 80f and bunged in the other stuff and in two days i had the magic juice. got another batch brewing right now.
My plants were showing overwatering symptoms which i guess is what happens when roots get suffocated and of course sterilizing helped a bit but wasn't going to be a cure.
I was close to binning the lot and going with soil but no need when good people share their wealth of knowledge.
I know my tea brew could do to be kept a bit warmer so i used hot tap water with molasses, then let it bubble till the temp dropped to 80f and bunged in the other stuff and in two days i had the magic juice. got another batch brewing right now.
sqydro
Active Member
no problem, the least i can do after all the info uve packed in here, i only use these 3 items in my tea as i was informed by some1 on bbay that thats all hes used for 3 full RDWC grows from start to finish as a preventative and never had one issue in 3 full grows, u should see his nugs these things are like 2ft long swords of bud lol, prob down to the root mass the tea helps build and stimulate,
i put some hot water into bring temps up in my tea, i now have it bubbling in the groom so it will be the same temp as my nutes which are quite low just now, 16 deg, been going between 16-18, i might have to install a aquarium heater when i go 12/12 as 12 hours of darkness in that room i can see the res temps dropping to below 10, this is not a good situation i dont think, il post a pic up later of the difference in just 2-3 days after tea and lightproofing!
echlectica
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So all is well with my grow these days but I have noticed something strange. (Just to remind you I'm working in E&F right now) The PPM of my solution will go up from around 650 up to around 1310 in like two days but the water level does not go down that much. My guess is that the bennies are fixing N and possible other elements as well. has anyone ever noticed this before?
CamelToeJoe
Member
After adding the tea.... three days later my pH has plummeted to 4.8 and my ppms are the same... What gives? Brewing up some more right now..