150w hps what do you think? +rep

spex420

spex420

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so i currently have a single stealth t5 setup but i wanna start a flower room for perpetual growth by chance i just happen to have another storage cubby on opposite side of the wall.

the area is only about 3x3 (i will use about a foot for ventilation) so we'll just say 3x2 6sq i wanna get a 150w hps i was looking at http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-FLORALUX-150w-HPS-Mini-Grow-Light.asp

do you think that would be enough? i think i'll only get about 2k lumens from it should i just get the 250.. my only concern with that is my limited space the 150 measures 14"x10"x5" , 5"!! thats tiny as shit. but if it doesnt cut the chicken its just a waste.. nah mean?

let me kno what you think. +rep
 
massah

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spex420

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".you'd never have to upgrade further unless you increased your grow area, just replace bulbs."

so theoretically i could buy the 150 and put the 250 bulb in... but i will prolly buy the 250 and if thats the case put the 400 in. my room is only 30" tall i really don't wanna sacrifice 9" to the light i need to keep the plants 5" away 6" for the pots so i will only have 10" for plant growth.. i would have to lst like a mofo
 
hoss12781

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I used to own the HTG 150, you'll want more firepower than that. Also I would never put a bulb that was not rated for the specific ballast in question in said ballast. That just doesn't seem safe to me from a fire hazard standpoint. If you're able to remove the heat buy a 400w air cooled hps. If heat removal is going to be an issue stick with your T-5 or research led lighting.

I have also owned a HTG 400w air cooled HPS - it will produce a lot of heat if you don't have an air cooled tube with a high speed fan removing the heat via ducting. Cheers!
 
massah

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spex420 said:
".you'd never have to upgrade further unless you increased your grow area, just replace bulbs."

so theoretically i could buy the 150 and put the 250 bulb in... but i will prolly buy the 250 and if thats the case put the 400 in. my room is only 30" tall i really don't wanna sacrifice 9" to the light i need to keep the plants 5" away 6" for the pots so i will only have 10" for plant growth.. i would have to lst like a mofo
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The bulb matches the ballast...so if you buy a 150watt system you use 150watt bulbs, if you use a 250...250 bulbs...etc...

Since you are so constricted on height you might just want to go with two of the 150's, or just one 150...try it out...see how well it works...if you need another get another...I have two 150's right now and they are doing a pretty good job(though mine are 150watt flood lights just rigged up on supports and chains that I got for $35 each) :D
 
spex420

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sigh. decisions decisions..

i want to have a second room which is why im looking into a hps, for flowering is the best. led still has a long way to come good but not ideal t5 has shown some spectacular potential throughout my experience using them but with thicker foliage it just doesnt have the penetration im looking for i don't want to have to sog every grow i like to experiment a little.

i think i am set on the 250 http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTGSupply-250-watt-High-Pressure-Sodium-Grow-Light.asp 145.00 shipped compared to 2x 150 which is like 219.00 im afraid the 400 would get too hot and is just over kill for my grow for me it would be like putting a mh in a pc case..

i plan on getting a inline fan +carbon filter and getting the cooling flange for the reflector so there is some degree for cooling but not by much

area-IMG_20111125_033501.jpg doesnt really represent the limitations but you kinda get a idea.

do you think 250 will be sufficient enough
 
spex420

spex420

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i actually looked into getting a blackstar i liked the 240w but i would really like the 600 but thats like a buck a watt it seems and i don't have 600w laying around a led panel would be perfect for my grow but i could get the equivalent in a hps for 1/3 of the price maybe some day down the road its getting colder outside so i think if i take the insulation out of my room most of the heat will dissipate thru the roof and leave me with minimal heat to deal with

although led would suit my op perfectly..idk man
 
hoss12781

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carameltopview.jpgSweetCaramel.jpgIMAG0002.jpgIMAG0001.jpgfor your needs leds do make sense man, that is if you have the coin to set it up proper. I just used a 180w panel (130w power draw) to pull 2 oz off an autoflower in less than 70 days.
 
supchaka

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Just to give you some numbers, Im running a 150 in a cabinet thats 16"x22"x6' with only a 50cfm exhaust, highest temp ive seen is 85, but usually sits around 80. I could use a little more vent IMO too. Be prepared to buy more than a $13 bathroom fan if you're going to go with anything over 150w
 
spex420

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wow you did that with a 180w led? i saw a grow that was with a 600w led that was good but not impressive thats just wow so maybe the 240 would make the magic happen..

@supchaka yea bro i was gonna get a inline fan/carbon silter combo then just run some duckt up to the flange to draw some of that air away. but not im reconsiddering leds lol in all honesty idk what the fuck i want i just want it to work im getting tired of having to go buy more lights cuz what i bought just isnt cutting the chicken
 
hoss12781

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I have 3 180w chipset panels, two of which run at 130w power draw, a newer one that pulls 155. I also have an older (2010 model) 250w chipset panel that pulls somewhere around 160w of power. I dedicate one panel to each plant (4 total). A picture of my closet operation attached. I used to use cfl, upgraded to a 150 hps, then 400w hps, then 2 air cooled 400w hps, then switched to all led and am much happier for it. So are my plants. The journal in my signature is almost complete, it documents my switch from hps to led. There are a lot of quality brands out there, if you go this route make sure to do your research as there is a lot of shit on the market as well.

I'm using the Pro-Grow Series from Hydroponics Hut. Heat was a major issue in my garden which led me down the led road. DSC01077.jpg
 
hoss12781

hoss12781

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just keep in mind that one panel is used on each plant man so if you're running more than one plant unless you can find a way to keep them super close to each other, I'd say a blackstar 240 that pulls roughly the same power as the PG 180s I'm using is great for bringing one plant to a full super healthy maximum harvest. If you break it down into two to three plants you're going to see diminished ROI. The results I'm getting are on par with my 2 400w air cooled hps rig (plus cfl side lighting) at about 1200w, the led set up runs about 600w. A good rule of thumb to take into consideration with led tech is that it will take roughly 1/2 to 2/3 the wattage (depending on chipset employed) to get the same growing horsepower you'd have with any hid set up.

Most led companies say a that their 130w (or thereabout) power draw leds are good for up to three plants. In my experience this is not the case if you're looking to max them out. I invested about a grand in my set up but have already seen a massive decrease in my power bill with the same harvest weights and am running lights that are under warranty for the next three years. I also won't have to replace any HPS bulbs which gets expensive when you have 2 400w lights and need to replace every six months or so running them 20 hours a day growing autos.

Best of luck brother!
 
spex420

spex420

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so heres the thing... i can only afford one if i go down that road, and if i did i would get the 240w black star 2012 model http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-2012-240w-Lighthouse-Hydro-BlackStar-LED-Grow-light-Flowering-3W-LEDs-/280758518662

it would only be for flowering so there is no wasted lumens for veg spectrum my space is 3x2 it would stay about 8" from the plants so they all could get some light i prolly would have no more then 5 plants but about 1/3 of the size of one of yours

that in mind should i get a led panel or just buy the 250w hps.

i found both that suit my grow "suits small grows 2x3"

later down the road i could prolly get another panel but i need to decide within the week bcuz i just started my plants 12/12 and im still using 6500k to boost my foliage b4 i use flower spec
 
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