Well, I met some air force guys a few years back, one was in 21 yrs, one was in 15, on was 7 or something, they all were in Long Island going to a aircraft mechanic school, because even tho they had 15 yrs workin on planes in the military it doesnt mean jack shit on the outside. they had to pay out of their own pocket for this also. The other guys I know figured out what they were getting paid, figuring in all your hrs in a day they control and its less than 5$ and hr.(need more confirmation on this)
The pay is shit, maybe if you stay in after your 4yrs u get a little promotion bump for staying.
Ya know Im tired of hearing, "thank to our troops for fighting for our rights"
the last troops who fought for our rights were in the revolutionary war. No other wars were fought over our freedom, or our rights. in fact we have had the government trample our rights more and more with every war we get in. They take away our rights under the provision of our safety. HA, Im way more afraid of our government than any arab terrorist, or any iran nuclear plant.
The troops, if they were fighting for our rights would be standing outside of the whitehouse, congress and the federal reserve, demanding the corrupt criminals get out or get shot.
So you go ahead and join the military, learn how to do what your told without question, and when the day comes when the government tells you to shoot americans who are hungry, and revolting against the complex, please remember who you are. And that day is coming.
the only way to stop the gov, is for intelligent people to realize we have to stop supporting the gov.
Now they are going to use the millitary to round up ANY person they dont like. dont believe me? new bill :
A message to all members of Maine Patriots
Congress to Vote Next Week on EXPLICITLY Creating a Police State
Why now?
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The worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial provision is in S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which will be on the Senate floor on Monday.
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I know it sounds incredible. New powers to use the military worldwide, even within the United States? Hasn’t anyone told the Senate that Osama bin Laden is dead, that the president is pulling all of the combat troops out of Iraq and trying to figure out how to get combat troops out of Afghanistan too? And American citizens and people picked up on American or Canadian or British streets being sent to military prisons indefinitely without even being charged with a crime. Really? Does anyone think this is a good idea? And why now?
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In support of this harmful bill, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) explained that the bill will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield” and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial “American citizen or not.” Another supporter, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) also declared that the bill is needed because “America is part of the battlefield.”
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The senators pushing the indefinite detention proposal have made their goals very clear that they want an okay for a worldwide military battlefield, that even extends to your hometown.
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Everyone knows that deploying 20,000 troops on U.S. soil violates Posse Comitatus and the Constitution.
And everyone understands that staging troops within the U.S. to “help out with civil unrest and crowd control” increases the danger of overt martial law.
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But no one is asking an obvious question: Does the government’s own excuse for deploying the troops make any sense?
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Other Encroachments On Civil Rights Under Obama
As bad as Bush was, the truth is that, in many ways, freedom and constitutional rights are under attack even more than during the Bush years.
For example: see here:
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/congress-vote-next-week-explic...
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From a commenter:
"THERE IS STILL A CHANCE TO STOP IT"
NO THERE AINT
The reason is simple. You used the term "ACLU" several times in your article. Even had the temerity of using it as your source. Neglecting the fact that such a term produces an emotional reaction, pre-indoctrinated on many readers here, in which the rational mind stops and the catchphrases, reductions and publicized associations arise: ACLU = COMMIE = BAD. And thus the topic of it all ends up on the facade of the evils of the ACLU, rather than on the substance of an oncoming police state. The US is done for, and this is the reason why.
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From another commenter:
If your curious to see if you have become an enemy of the state, search: MIAC report. You may be suprised how many do.
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Right wing, gun owners, Ron Paul supporters (stickers) Precious metal horders, food hoarders, and Mainly, returning Vet's of the United States military forces. Protesters or anything that may hobble this adminestrations effort to further subjugate the USA.
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The Senate is set to vote on a bill next week that would define the whole of the United States as a “battlefield” and allow the U.S. Military to arrest American citizens in their own back yard without charge or trial.
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The bill was drafted in secret by Senators Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.), before being passed in a closed-door committee meeting without any kind of hearing. The language appears in sections 1031 and 1032 of the NDAA bill.
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“I would also point out that these provisions raise serious questions as to who we are as a society and what our Constitution seeks to protect,” Colorado Senator Mark Udall said in a speech last week. One section of these provisions, section 1031, would be interpreted as allowing the military to capture and indefinitely detain American citizens on U.S. soil. Section 1031 essentially repeals the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 by authorizing the U.S. military to perform law enforcement functions on American soil. That alone should alarm my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, but there are other problems with these provisions that must be resolved.”.
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things are goin to get worse. And its not even gonna take very long. We need all the able bodied men here for when shit does go down.
The Modern Military fights for a political agenda, not our freedoms.
