curious old fart
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Thanks for the reminder, let's keep him and his family in our thoughts and prayers.
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dababydroman
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what happend to brother doobie?
Dezracer
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The way dimensions are called out on trays is brand dependent. Some, like botanicare, make them where the inside dimensions are the 3x6, 4x8, etc. Other brands will make them so the overall dimensions are the 3x6,4x8, etc.
You really have to go see one in person before buying one if you are particular or maybe have a specific size space to work with to determine if it will suit your needs.
Thanks Duchie for the kind words and FYI, DWC = Deep Water Culture and RDWC = Recirculating Deep Water Culture. Running a constant flow of water in your trays, depending on the depth that you flood, would be more similar to NFT. They work well too and have their own set of problems to keep an eye out for, like anything else. I went with RDWC because I like the results I have seen with it, I am familiar with DWC already and I need things to be as simple as possible with the grow. I do need to keep my numbers down these days too, like you said. I have paperwork that will allow me to run more plants but with things going the way they are in this state these days and having the grow back at my house, I don't trust anything anymore. DWC can be about the easiest way to grow IMO if done properly.
Dezracer
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Yes, what's going on with Doob?
shnkrmn
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His Mom's in a bad way. He's gone to Alaska to be with her.
I thought more about my constant flood idea, and it wouldn't be like RDWC because the water inside the pots (I'm currently running two gallon pots) would not be constantly refreshed. Maybe run a flood and drain cycle every hour would work, pumping a new load of nutrients into the pots. As someone once said here on RIU "Of course it's too complicated; I got stoned and started thinking. It's what I do."
Another note on cleaning your medium. I made a DIY flood and drain last year with a concrete mixing tub from Home Depot. Rubbermaid res. I dumped all my used media in the tray, added water and clearex and set it to constant flood. buried some airstones in the tray for agitation and let it run all night. Now the bottom of the res is covered with filth that settled there and the medium in the tray is pretty much ready to use again. No labor at all! I'm going to change out the water and run it again. I may just keep it stored in there and change out the water periodically.
I thought more about my constant flood idea, and it wouldn't be like RDWC because the water inside the pots (I'm currently running two gallon pots) would not be constantly refreshed. Maybe run a flood and drain cycle every hour would work, pumping a new load of nutrients into the pots. As someone once said here on RIU "Of course it's too complicated; I got stoned and started thinking. It's what I do."
Another note on cleaning your medium. I made a DIY flood and drain last year with a concrete mixing tub from Home Depot. Rubbermaid res. I dumped all my used media in the tray, added water and clearex and set it to constant flood. buried some airstones in the tray for agitation and let it run all night. Now the bottom of the res is covered with filth that settled there and the medium in the tray is pretty much ready to use again. No labor at all! I'm going to change out the water and run it again. I may just keep it stored in there and change out the water periodically.
Dezracer
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My thoughts are with you Doob.
that's a good idea for cleaning the Hydroton and I may try it. I have a small DIY E&F system that's is not being used now that would work for that purpose. I'm going to look into the grow rocks though after you made them sound so easy. My system doesn't use much of it but I don't like all the cleaning before and after use involved with hydroton.
If you increase your frequency of flood cycles, be sure to cut the time that the pump is on down or you may see signs of overwatering and possibly nute burn. Let it run just long enough to fill to your set flood depth and then shut off.
that's a good idea for cleaning the Hydroton and I may try it. I have a small DIY E&F system that's is not being used now that would work for that purpose. I'm going to look into the grow rocks though after you made them sound so easy. My system doesn't use much of it but I don't like all the cleaning before and after use involved with hydroton.
If you increase your frequency of flood cycles, be sure to cut the time that the pump is on down or you may see signs of overwatering and possibly nute burn. Let it run just long enough to fill to your set flood depth and then shut off.
shnkrmn
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What I don't get about DWC is the roots are always in the solution, so how come they are not overwatered? I think maybe overwatering is something you can only do in soil, and it has more to do with saturated soil excluding oxygen and smothering the roots.
I literally lol'd the first time I shook a root ball clean of the new stuff, it fell out so fast..
justlearning73
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Man my flower room is prodcing males. I had to take out three plants due to the flowers. Damn. Nothing i wanted to keep. Way to stretchy. Oh well I put two addtional plants in to sex them. My two plants that I bred are looking good though most likely come down in a week or so. The plants them selves have turned in to buds, and i mean almost the whole plant. I would post some pics, but haveing issues with my camera. I will post when i get it fixed. SO i will have some new smoke to try soon. Cant wait! Been smoking the same for almost 9 going on 10 months now. Need something different. Everyones grows are looking good. Hats off to you guys.
Dezracer
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You could be right about over watering but I've heard people cautioning others about it even in hydro so I figured I'd pass it along. Take it for it's worth though as I haven't seen it first hand.
With DWC, not all of the root ball is submerged so some parts only get wet from the bubbles breaking the water's surface but are exposed to air more than water. The water level is usually kept 1/2"-1" or so below the net pot so the net pot never gets truly saturated.
Anyone remember what household item can be used to RAISE Ph levels in the water? I've never run into this before so only keep ph down on hand but got the ph down to 5.8 last night with plain water and it stayed exactly at 5.8 through the night. I don't want to waste the water but need to add nutes today so I wanted to raise the ph back up to 5.8 after adding my nutes.
duchieman
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I think I've heard that the wet medium strangles the roots and deprives them of oxygen where in water you guys are constantly feeding the water oxygen. I had one plant that I would now and again aerate the pot using a long metal skewer, just jabbing it like I was taking out some frustration (but I wasn't really because I was stoned and very content actually). Can I say for sure it helped? No, but I can say it never hurt. We do it to our lawns. I've also seen, on videos, people who use soft pots, pick them up and kinda knead the pot/soil to loosen it up. That's my theory.
Thanks for that reply Dez. Just that helped alot.
shnkrmn
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dababydroman
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i sometimes shake my water even when its just plain water to airate it before i give it to the plants
CampUnderDog
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I know the feeling...
So, today I decided to do a little bit of a trim on the organic plants, large fan leave that already have good branch growth, got taken out... large fan leaves that support bud sites, got trimmed to allow light penetration. Well, while I was taking the three out one by one... I noticed that #1 looked real thin after the trimming... not gonna yield much off that one... didn't expect to.
I was betting on #2, she had soo many bud sites on her. Pulled #2 out of the cab, started trimming... got towards the middle... OH SNEAKY SNEAKY. Little bitch wasn't a bitch. She was a he/she acting like a she/she. I was upset.
Chopped it down... had to happen. Moved on to #3... and was relieved. Lots of bud sites, after trimming it still looked pretty full. So... I took out the clone from #2... it actually had roots started... so the clone from #3 should do well.
Still no sprout from Hollands Hope #2... but I am not giving up hope, and also not gonna dig and look. Resisting the urge.
This takes my plant count from 9 to 7 now... 8 with the bonzai... and now I am not feeling like it is going to be quite as crowded. no, it is still 9... because I have my Porthos on top of the cab, with the long ass motha fuckin vines draped inside the cab, and above everything... I'll get more pics up tomorrow... when everything gets over being moved around and stressed.
CampUnderDog
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Actually I have a buddy, that taught me how to clean my hydroton. Vinegar and water rinse, followed by a flushing agent rinse, and then BAKE the hydroton @ 275 for a few hours or so, while it is still wet. Take it out, and spread it on a towel, and let it finish air drying.
curious old fart
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shnkrmn
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lol. I can imagine 30 gallons of hydroton in the oven. My wife would stab my eyes out.
indecline
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just planted 24 seeds, a few have started to show through the soil and i have not yet set up a veg tent, how long (if at all) can i leave the seedlings in 12/12? will they be ok for a week or so or will they flower instantly? i just didnt see the point in setting up a third tent when they are so small.(i have nothing smaller than 400w). I just have them in with my flowering plants for now.
Dezracer
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ED is the one I'm after from Breeder's Boutique. I want the Psycho Killer too but ED seems to be right up my alley.
Thanks for the drain cleaner tip but I remembered it was baking soda I had read about before and tried it on a small amount of water first. I didn't like the way it reacted so I manned up, drove to the hydro shop and bought ph up.
Thanks for the drain cleaner tip but I remembered it was baking soda I had read about before and tried it on a small amount of water first. I didn't like the way it reacted so I manned up, drove to the hydro shop and bought ph up.
SmeLLyTreeZ
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I've used baking soda, I'm assuming your talking to raise ph? It was in soil but seemed to work ok.. any ill effect from using it ?
Dezracer
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I didn't like the way it didn't completely dissolve in the water I guess I'd call it. It left a sort of residue in the water and I don't care for having anything in the water that doesn't completely dissolve or mix in. I'm sure it would be fine and I know that a lot of people have used it but it seems it is mostly used in soil and the soil acts as a buffer. You don't have that buffer with hydro so I try to be a little more careful with the hydro system's water. I don't get super crazy about it but like to keep certain things in order and that's one of them.