MG Soil + AF Nute Question

[Blunt Blowin]

thank you wjat i was trying to tell them

So, how exactly does molasses work then? I'm confused...its supposed to help bud production and bud density, right? But it doesn't really give any extra "nutrients"...someone please help me understand

 

[0calli]

It helps production by feeding the microbes in the soil that produce the enzymes the plant does use and some basic sugars the plant will uptake also does help resin but not some great big amount i get more abundant resing production from a blacklight from the extra uva and uvb rays

 

[Blunt Blowin]

It helps production by feeding the microbes in the soil that produce the enzymes the plant does use and some basic sugars the plant will uptake also does help resin but not some great big amount i get more abundant resing production from a blacklight from the extra uva and uvb rays

Ok, that helps a lot...I'm such an ignorant noob lol. Thanks for the help 0calli. So, when you use the blacklight, do you have it on the same light schedule as the regular lighting. And how do you position the light? I think thats a good idea and will probably try it out.

Oh, and someone earlier said that if you're not going organic that molasses is pretty much useless b/c of the microbes and stuff. Would it help at all since I'm using MG organic?

 

[0calli]

Im using mg organic but with amendments added like black earth very rich and topsoil perlite sand bat guano etc i run when lights are off cause my 1000w throws uv rays while on and too much uv will affect the plant on a cellular level fuking your outcome if your feeding it something the last 4 weeks yes use it if your going organic youll need to add stuff to grow properly right we cany grow prop. On just cheerios rieht lol but if you add stuf organically yes it helps with extra energy from the microbial enzymes released in the last 4 weeks which what it needs

 

[Kratose]

The majority of calcium and magnesium in molasses will never be available to the plant. The calcium just builds up in the medium possibly causing other issues. And plants do not absorb carbs through their roots. They produce their own carbs within the plant itself. And the bennies are already being fed by your nutrient program, why do you all think they need additional food?

Yes you are right. But molasses can be used when you have nothing else available, which he has said he is not using nutrients.

 

[Kratose]

So, how exactly does molasses work then? I'm confused...its supposed to help bud production and bud density, right? But it doesn't really give any extra "nutrients"...someone please help me understand

I know it can be confusing but oscali pretty much explained it.

 

[Kratose]

Sugar Daddy has been chelated, Grandmas molasses has not...

He has been chelated??? Grandmas molasses has not...????

As for the carbs comment....http://www.advancednutrients.com/carbs/Clearing_Up_The_Carb_Controversy_By_Advanced_Nutrients.pdf

 

[watchhowIdoit]

I am assuming he is talking about SD from Technaflora.....

 

[0calli]

He has been chelated??? Grandmas molasses has not...????

As for the carbs comment....http://www.advancednutrients.com/carbs/Clearing_Up_The_Carb_Controversy_By_Advanced_Nutrients.pdf

i think he means sulfered or un-sulfered and option 2 is what ya want or you can use fancy too

 

[goten]

I use the grandmas unsulfered molasses

works great imo , been using it for a few yrs now

 

[Blunt Blowin]

so wtf does chelated mean in everyday terms and how does that relate to my plant?

What up goten, thanks for the input. btw, i saw your "goten is really high vid" in the doggie nuts thread and laughed my ass off...thanks for that, that was freakin awesome.

 

[0calli]

so wtf does chelated mean in everyday terms and how does that relate to my plant?

What up goten, thanks for the input. btw, i saw your "goten is really high vid" in the doggie nuts thread and laughed my ass off...thanks for that, that was freakin awesome.

The third boiling of the sugar syrup makes blackstrap molasses. The term is an Americanism dating from around 1920. The majority of sucrose from the original juice has been crystallized and removed. The calorie content of blackstrap molasses is still mostly from the small remaining sugar content.[SUP][2][/SUP] However, unlike refined sugars, it contains trace amounts of vitamins and significant amounts of several minerals. Blackstrap molasses is a source of calcium, magnesium, potassium, and iron; one tablespoon provides up to 20% of the daily value of each of those nutrients


Chelation is the formation or presence of two or more separate coordinate bonds between a polydentate (multiple bonded) ligand and a single central atom.[SUP][1][/SUP] Usually these ligands are organic compounds, and are called chelants, chelators, chelating agents, or sequestering agents.
The ligand forms a chelate complex with the substrate. Chelate complexes are contrasted with coordination complexes composed of monodentate ligands, which form only one bond with the central atom.
Chelants, according to ASTM-A-380, are "chemicals that form soluble, complex molecules with certain metal ions, inactivating the ions so that they cannot normally react with other elements or ions to produce precipitates or scale."