LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

[falcon223]

Well I dropped the hammer today. Got this light coming. I hope I did good. Delivery estimate: Dec. 22, 2011 - Dec. 28, 2011

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[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"New Wave 48 T5 HO Fluorescent Light Fixture 4FT 8 Lamp" $134.99 In Stock Sold by: Hydro Galaxy [/SIZE][/FONT]

 

[hyroot]

BTW guys on these new T5 grows we have totally abandoned all Nute regimens and went straight to a dry Maxibloom ONLY mix.

I will never go back to Part A, b, add this add that crap again. Straight up, 1tsp of Maxibloom per gallon throughout the plants entire life. Getting as good of grows as I have with Fox Farms, GH and Advanced. Not to mention saving a SHITLOAD of money.

2.2lb for $15!

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Try doing guano teas. Its a little more work. Its much cheaper than buying bottled nutes. Thats all I feed my girls and thy love it. Its completely organic and it is very hard to over feed. I spend around $50 every 2 months on my teas

 

[falcon223]

hyroot, can you tell us witch guano you use and where to get it . And all the prep you do to get your teas. Thanks.


I steel haven't found a good feeding plan.

 

[Calrt]

Well I dropped the hammer today. Got this light coming. I hope I did good. Delivery estimate: Dec. 22, 2011 - Dec. 28, 2011

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[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"New Wave 48 T5 HO Fluorescent Light Fixture 4FT 8 Lamp" $134.99 In Stock Sold by: Hydro Galaxy [/SIZE][/FONT]

Great price!

 

[hyroot]

any hydro shop or nursery carries all this and even amazon

Tea recipe for 5 gal


get a 5 gal bucket , dual air pump, tubing , stocking or paint strainer, and 2 air stones

Usually I aerate the water for a day or 2 then I add molasses ( 1 tbsp per gal ) and aerate for another hour. The molasses neutralizes the chlorine and chloramine.

Then I add sun leaves guano
VEG ......................1/2 cup peruvian seabird and 1/2 mexican bat.
EARLY FLOWER...... 1/3 cup peruvian seabird and 2/3 cup jamaican bat,
LATE FLOWER ........1/3 cup peruvian seabird and 2/3 cup indonesian bat.

1/2 cup ancient forest humus (used to use ewc )
1/2 cup grow more dolomite lime

dr. earth seaweed concentrate 4 tsp for veg and 6 - 8 tsp for flower

aerate for another day and half or when foam is at its peak
feed full strength no diluting

A few times when I've been out of stuff and not a lot of money, I used earth juice rainbow mix grow 5-5-2 and bloom 0-9-2 and primal harvest 0-12-1 and aerate that at same ratios. Everything else is already in it. When I have used that I actually saw a lot more crystals. Something in the earth juice seems to combat PM too. I add dr. earth seaweed and dolomite lime to that too. The earth juice foams up faster too because its in powder form so it breaks down faster


CLONES: 2 red party cups of VEG TEA =4 cups, 1 red party cup of aerated water = 2 cups. then pour into tray.

 

[hyroot]

Well I dropped the hammer today. Got this light coming. I hope I did good. Delivery estimate: Dec. 22, 2011 - Dec. 28, 2011

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[SIZE=-1]"New Wave 48 T5 HO Fluorescent Light Fixture 4FT 8 Lamp" $134.99 In Stock Sold by: Hydro Galaxy [/SIZE]

Let us know how that goes. That is an awesome deal. I'm probably going to grab one too

 

[Redoctober]

Well I dropped the hammer today. Got this light coming. I hope I did good. Delivery estimate: Dec. 22, 2011 - Dec. 28, 2011

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[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"New Wave 48 T5 HO Fluorescent Light Fixture 4FT 8 Lamp" $134.99 In Stock Sold by: Hydro Galaxy [/SIZE][/FONT]

Are you sure you bought the one you think you bought?
The 4' 8 lamp New Wave fixture is listed on Hydro Galaxy's website for $291.56. http://www.hydrogalaxy.com/categories/growing-lights/flourescent-lights.html?sort=featured&page=4
Did you mean that you bought a 2' 8 lamp?
Even that one is listed at $168.20

 

[Undercover Cop]

Ok so a few days ago I commented on a post about how impressed I was with the growth I was seeing, tight internode distance and having super short squatty bushes....
only 5" tall!

 

[Undercover Cop]

So I got my 8 bulb fixture yesterday and after my Red Suns were delivered today, I shuffled around some bulbs and peppered in the red suns... tada!

<-- will be used for vegging, good mix heavy in blues. from left to right... 1/super blue wave 460, 2/6500k, 3/red sun, 4/reef wave 420, 5/super blue wave 460, 6/red sun, 7/6500k, 8/reef wave 420.

with 4 switches you can select every other bulb or groups of two




Here's all 3 of my fixtures, the 8 bulb for vegging and the two 4 bulbs for flower, to use as side lighting. You'll notice the 4 bulb units have individual reflectors so the bulb colors are much more vivid and dont bleed into each other like they do in the 8 bulb unit which has a reflector for every 2. I have a Radiion 48 but I think the BadBoys are the same way (the 4 bulb units are Radiion 44's, w individual reflectors.) I think that three 4 bulb units ($100 ea. = $300 for 12 bulbs total) would be a better choice than two 8 bulb units ($150ea =$300 for 16 bulbs) there would prob be slightly less heat and 216 fewer watts used for about the same light spread/coverage area. I think the 8 bulb unit's reflectors cause wasted light from bulbs shining into each other and not a reflector. The tubes will absorb and waste some of the emitted light from other bulbs if they shine on each other. point is, you can see from the brightness side by side, that the 4 bulb units use the light more effectively, IMHO. blah blah blah heres more pics



<-- for flowering #1... Super Blue Wave 460, UVL Red Sun, Coral Wave, 3000k bloom

<-- for flowering #2... Super Blue Wave 460, UVL Red Sun, Coral Wave, Red Wave

 

[hyroot]

Are you sure you bought the one you think you bought?
The 4' 8 lamp New Wave fixture is listed on Hydro Galaxy's website for $291.56. http://www.hydrogalaxy.com/categories/growing-lights/flourescent-lights.html?sort=featured&page=4
Did you mean that you bought a 2' 8 lamp?
Even that one is listed at $168.20

did you go to the link he put up? its a holiday deal through amazon. keep it hush hush so they don't sell out

 

[hyroot]

So I got my 8 bulb fixture yesterday and after my Red Suns were delivered today, I shuffled around some bulbs and peppered in the red suns... tada!

View attachment 1939244 View attachment 1939245 <-- will be used for vegging, good mix heavy in blues. from left to right... 1/super blue wave 460, 2/6500k, 3/red sun, 4/reef wave 420, 5/super blue wave 460, 6/red sun, 7/6500k, 8/reef wave 420.

with 4 switches you can select every other bulb or groups of two
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Here's all 3 of my fixtures, the 8 bulb for vegging and the two 4 bulbs for flower, to use as side lighting. You'll notice the 4 bulb units have individual reflectors so the bulb colors are much more vivid and dont bleed into each other like they do in the 8 bulb unit which has a reflector for every 2. I have a Radiion 48 but I think the BadBoys are the same way (the 4 bulb units are Radiion 44's, w individual reflectors.) I think that three 4 bulb units ($100 ea. = $300 for 12 bulbs total) would be a better choice than two 8 bulb units ($150ea =$300 for 16 bulbs) there would prob be slightly less heat and 216 fewer watts used for about the same light spread/coverage area. I think the 8 bulb unit's reflectors cause wasted light from bulbs shining into each other and not a reflector. The tubes will absorb and waste some of the emitted light from other bulbs if they shine on each other. point is, you can see from the brightness side by side, that the 4 bulb units use the light more effectively, IMHO. blah blah blah heres more pics

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View attachment 1939337 <-- for flowering #1... Super Blue Wave 460, UVL Red Sun, Coral Wave, 3000k bloom

View attachment 1939344 <-- for flowering #2... Super Blue Wave 460, UVL Red Sun, Coral Wave, Red Wave

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what do you think about the radiion? i saw those on ebay and did a google search for the company and couldn't find a thing on them. i ended up finding someone on there selling 6 bulb hydrofarms for 120.

 

[Redoctober]

did you go to the link he put up? its a holiday deal through amazon. keep it hush hush so they don't sell out

Shit! Never Mind...I'm just a simpleton. I didn't even see that the Hydro Galaxy was an active link so I went to their web page instead.

Sorry falcon, ignore my stupid post. But well done on getting that deal That's quite a snag!

 

[Redoctober]

Ok so a few days ago I commented on a post about how impressed I was with the growth I was seeing, tight internode distance and having super short squatty bushes.... only 5" tall! View attachment 1939236 View attachment 1939239 View attachment 1939240 View attachment 1939241 View attachment 1939242

WOW! I've never seen anything like that. Amazing. Was that done with the blue wave, reef wave, 6500, and red sun?
I've always wanted to have short dense plants like that. With such tight internodes, you can imagine what the bud formation will be like!

 

[falcon223]

Those plants look great.
I got the light at amazon, I hope they got it right. I just cant pass that deal by.
I may get anther one.

 

[Redoctober]

Those plants look great. I got the light at amazon, I hope they got it right. I just cant pass that deal by. I may get anther one.

Yeah I just found what you were talking about. I wish I saw that 4 days ago before I before I paid $280 for mine lol. That's $150 off. How long is that deal going for?

 

[PetFlora]

WOW! I've never seen anything like that. Amazing. Was that done with the blue wave, reef wave, 6500, and red sun?
I've always wanted to have short dense plants like that. With such tight internodes, you can imagine what the bud formation will be like!

I actually had the same type of tight node spacing using a Quantum BB (8 bulb) + 8 Quantum 6500s, which I already owned prior to finding Pr0fs thread. Now (for veg) I mix them with UVL Aqua Suns & ATI Special Actinics + one Coral Wave

 

[Redoctober]

I actually had the same type of tight node spacing using a Quantum BB (8 bulb) + 8 Quantum 6500s, which I already owned prior to finding Pr0fs thread. Now (for veg) I mix them with UVL Aqua Suns & ATI Special Actinics + one Coral Wave

Is it possible to use the T5 spectrum (actinic side) to keep the nodes that tight during flower, and prevent the plants from stretching like crazy? My plants always run away on me in flower and I'd like them to stay more squat.

 

[AltarNation]

Well I dropped the hammer today. Got this light coming. I hope I did good. Delivery estimate: Dec. 22, 2011 - Dec. 28, 2011

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[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"New Wave 48 T5 HO Fluorescent Light Fixture 4FT 8 Lamp" $134.99 In Stock Sold by: Hydro Galaxy [/SIZE][/FONT]

That looks sweet man, and it's a lot cheaper than I paid for my crap... I think you could easily plexiglass the bottom and make a cooltube design...

 

[MurshDawg]

Is it possible to use the T5 spectrum (actinic side) to keep the nodes that tight during flower, and prevent the plants from stretching like crazy? My plants always run away on me in flower and I'd like them to stay more squat.

It's been my experience that most t5 lighting will promote tighter internodal spacing.

 

[falcon223]

I need a source for flowering bulbs. If anyone has a good link I would appreciate it.
I think 2 red suns, and 2 Fiji purple, and 1 coral wave, and 67000K full spectrum. Need 2 more.