wolfman420
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I think my plants have a Mg deficiencey can some one verify and how do i treat? thanks so much.! they're 20" tall in the first week of flower in 3gal pots
mg Deficiencey?? how do I treat?
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wyteboi
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thats not just a mg def. thats a overall def.
what soil is she in an what do you feed ?
she looks to just need a good balenced diet with N bein the higher number. she is very hungry , shes big so up her diet an she will start greenin back up in a week or so.
soil
wolfman420
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I'm using botanicare pure blend grow 1tbls per gal. Last feeding I used 1tbls of bloom no grow should I be using them both together? FF happy frog soil. I was trying the less is more method lol! I'll pick up some calmag today thanks
MrGhettoGrower
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I've never used your nutes so I don't know how strong they are
do you use a ppm test and know how many ppms you are feeding
For Mg deficiency give'em like a tsp of epsom salt per gallon watering
along with a good dose of nutes. First week of flowering I would go
with 1000 ppms. You could include some veg nutes like 10% or so
but yea give it a good dose of nutes and then plain water next time,
You can go up 200 ppms every feeding but alternate with plain water!
The "highest" I ever went was 1600 ppms after the 5th week or so you start
cutting back ppms~
do you use a ppm test and know how many ppms you are feeding
For Mg deficiency give'em like a tsp of epsom salt per gallon watering
along with a good dose of nutes. First week of flowering I would go
with 1000 ppms. You could include some veg nutes like 10% or so
but yea give it a good dose of nutes and then plain water next time,
You can go up 200 ppms every feeding but alternate with plain water!
The "highest" I ever went was 1600 ppms after the 5th week or so you start
cutting back ppms~
watchhowIdoit
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Sure looks hungry too me...remember folks if a plant is showing just a single deficiency. And that deficiency is not dealt with, other deficiencies are soon too follow. Its about balance, not ppms....
wyteboi
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are you feeding every watering ?
she dont need any bloom food right now , no matter if your buddin her or veggin still. IF you been only givin her bloom food for a minute then that tells me she is just starvin for more N. (yes you can mix the two foods.)
if you been givin her a tbs per gallon every watering with veg food too , then i will say up it to 2 tbs for the next two waterings, then back down to 1 an see how she acts a week from now. if she is still hungry after that then you will be upping the grow to 2 tbs per gallon.
it looks to me as if you are using only bloom right now ?
soil
wyteboi
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NO dont go get cal mag , the person that said that didnt know what you were feeding with at first. all pure blend has cal and mag in there mix .... more will make it worse .... see sometimes less is more.
soil
wolfman420
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I'm feeding her every watering with the grow 1tbs. I'll try 2tbs. I used the bloom one time. Thanks for your help!!
wolfman420
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just an update on my plants I think they're doing much better? I upped the nutes and gave it a little calmag it's been ten days. the first four pics are my el alquimista the next three are the white russian which had it the worst. I also have two pics of my white russian clone i have in a water farm in the veg room 5.6ph 850ppm the leaves are starting to get some spots. do you think this is fine or am i developing an issue?? Thanks again everyone for all your help this is a great community merry xmas
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wyteboi
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pure blend has a VERY sufficiant amount of ca and mg in it. the extra ca will only lock out the N and other essential nutes.
a couple of them are showing nutes defs still ... bigtime. you have a good start on flowers so i would go with 15mls of the grow and 15 mls of the bloom together. NO more calmag. also use just as much grow (or more) as you do bloom , until the buds get a lil more developed.
Your main job is to keep those fan leaves green until the end .... that will give you the biggest yield.
how much of what are you feeding at this point ?
they look very good overall !
soil
wolfman420
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Thanks for all your help wyteboi +rep!! I did the 2tbs like you said and I used 1/4 tsp of cal mag. The last feeding I used 1/4 tsp calmag 1 1/2 tbs grow and 1/2tbs of bloom. Next feeding tonight or tomorrow I'll loose the calmag and do the 15mls of each....on the WR I lost alot of the fan leaves but it still looks much better even though some are still alittle crusty. Thanks again
maps84
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Whitie's got a point, and they indeed look hungry but Ca-Mg are the most advanced deficiencies you've got going on. Sorry whitie but you're wrong about PBP having enough Ca-Mg as I always had to supplement it on hydro and soil grows no matter the strain and found the demand of this elements is almost on par with the other macros as it goes for Cannabis. On the other handI wouldn't go over 25 ml of PBP as it's been a sure burn for mein any given phase, I do add additives instead in the watering due after fertilizing, this helps me to keep PH in range as well as good rate of salts in the soil
wyteboi
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what would make you think his defs are ca an mg ? the overall on the pics show N defs , there maybe some leaves that look different , but adding calmag on top of the calmag hes already been usin on top of the tap water on top of the ca an mg in the food is just asking for a lockout.
Hes been usin all that ca an mg so thats a SURE sign hes not ca or mg deficiant.
soil
watchhowIdoit
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Calcium is not a mobile element in the plant and current calcium deficiencies most always manifest in the newer growth.
unohu69
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They are looking much happier now, good job on the recovery. so many people fuck it up at that point.
I have just been introduced into the wonderful world of molasses, after looking at it and the nutritional information, i understand more on why people use it. just as a additive.
I have just been introduced into the wonderful world of molasses, after looking at it and the nutritional information, i understand more on why people use it. just as a additive.
wolfman420
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[FONT=Tahoma, Calibri, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]They are looking better but I still think they need something. I fed them last night 10mil grow and 10mil bloom no calmag this time. I'll see where that takes me. I do have some earth juice molasses but I haven't used on these girls.[/FONT]