to me starting over from seed is slow tedious work & measurable progress seems to move along at a snails pace thats where im at with both grows ive got going on as im starting over with fresh strains my slh-x-jackberry is finaly taking off & my sun maiden will be in in the next few weeks although im not ready to develop them ive wanted those grape-stomper genetics for awhile now & they only lasted about 4 days so i had to order while they lasted once developed i plan to run these strains for quite awhile