Why doesnt Mr. Nice Seeds have Feminized Seeds?

omar924

Active Member
I was gonna order some beans from them....and noticed they just have regular. Anyone know why? just curious. is there a bennefit from getting regular over female?
 

Ww58

Member
Mr. nice is a breeding line. if you want real genetics you need regs. fems are actually reverse pollinated hermaphrodites. guaranteed female but has hermie in the genetics. i'd advise popping all your seeds and to look for the gem pheno instead of popping them gradually. what did you have your eye on?
-FutureMan
 

omar924

Active Member
Mr. nice is a breeding line. if you want real genetics you need regs. fems are actually reverse pollinated hermaphrodites. guaranteed female but has hermie in the genetics. i'd advise popping all your seeds and to look for the gem pheno instead of popping them gradually. what did you have your eye on?
-FutureMan
black widow....what do you mean by popping all seeds and loof for the gem pheno? this is my first grow so im still learning.
 

HonestJim

Active Member
black widow....what do you mean by popping all seeds and loof for the gem pheno? this is my first grow so im still learning.
That is a great strain, in fact one of the best. However you are going to have to germinate several and cross your fingers for a female. If you want a feminized seed that is comparable to Black Widow go with Dutch Passion's White Widow.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
black widow....what do you mean by popping all seeds and loof for the gem pheno? this is my first grow so im still learning.
he means germ the whole pack of beans, with mr nice that would mean germing 18, which i think is a lil over kill honestly, and then picking the one or two that have the best characteristics that you're looking for, whether that be potency, yield, tricome production, taste, etc, etc, or a combo of these, and taking that one or two that you really like and keeping them for mom's and using them to take clones off of to continue to grow the same plant with the characteristics that you like over and over and ....

if you only germ one or two seeds out of a whole pack, the chances of finding that keeper mom you're looking for go down obviously..
 

SCARHOLE

Well-Known Member
Shanti an neve believe it's an inferior breeding stock.

CS an Sts for reversing fems dosent make it stress hermi.
It blocks copper in the plant to inhibit flowers, so its closer to a true male.
But Neville uses fem s1 off clone only plants, I've seen it at mr nice forums.

They have fem resin seed co for sale at the mr nice auctions.
Polly the closest to fems you'll see From MR Nice.
 

omar924

Active Member
he means germ the whole pack of beans, with mr nice that would mean germing 18, which i think is a lil over kill honestly, and then picking the one or two that have the best characteristics that you're looking for, whether that be potency, yield, tricome production, taste, etc, etc, or a combo of these, and taking that one or two that you really like and keeping them for mom's and using them to take clones off of to continue to grow the same plant with the characteristics that you like over and over and ....

if you only germ one or two seeds out of a whole pack, the chances of finding that keeper mom you're looking for go down obviously..
so do i have to make clones of each plant regaurdless if i know its a female or male.....then force clones to flower....so they show there sex....then once i kill males....take clones off the confirmed females....and wait to see which has best pheno
 

Ww58

Member
so do i have to make clones of each plant regaurdless if i know its a female or male.....then force clones to flower....so they show there sex....then once i kill males....take clones off the confirmed females....and wait to see which has best pheno
well pop all the seeds, take a clone off and label it. grow out the whole batch, eliminate the males. find the true white widow you feel is the best for your needs(might be a few). dispose of other clones, grow ur meds

pheno hunting is like gambling
 

Jogro

Well-Known Member
I was gonna order some beans from them....and noticed they just have regular. Anyone know why? just curious. is there a bennefit from getting regular over female?
Some breeders, Mr. Nice included, think that plants from feminized seeds aren't as strong as ordinary ones, and that house is all about max quality.

As a matter of practice, creating feminized seeds from the various seed lines involves more than doubling the seed maintenance work per strain, including requiring twice the breeding space. Its not worth it unless there is a strong demand for them.

If you're buying from Mr. Nice you're probably after the best genetics possible, and if so, not only will you probably be willing to cull out a few tiny male plants, but you may even WANT them for breeding stock.

Personally, I wouldn't buy femmed seeds from that source. . .if I'm buying anything from Mr. Nice, including (and especially) his "Black Widow", I'd *want* males so I can generate more seeds or more easily cross with other plants!

Also, I believe Mr. Nice actually has offered limited runs of fem seeds on its auction site, so its certainly NOT because they don't know how to create them!
 

omar924

Active Member
Some breeders, Mr. Nice included, think that plants from feminized seeds aren't as strong as ordinary ones, and that house is all about max quality.

As a matter of practice, creating feminized seeds from the various seed lines involves more than doubling the seed maintenance work per strain, including requiring twice the breeding space. Its not worth it unless there is a strong demand for them.

If you're buying from Mr. Nice you're probably after the best genetics possible, and if so, not only will you probably be willing to cull out a few tiny male plants, but you may even WANT them for breeding stock.

Personally, I wouldn't buy femmed seeds from that source. . .if I'm buying anything from Mr. Nice, including (and especially) his "Black Widow", I'd *want* males so I can generate more seeds or more easily cross with other plants!

Also, I believe Mr. Nice actually has offered limited runs of fem seeds on its auction site, so its certainly NOT because they don't know how to create them!
very informative! thanks
 
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