The Seed Collectors Thread

billcollector99

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i dont see what was questionable about it?

Out of 12 i popped i got 6 males 6 females, no herms. All 6 of my females were top notch...

Every person that has smoked it has named it one of their favorite smokes. The shit is downright potent.
 
i dont see what was questionable about it?

Out of 12 i popped i got 6 males 6 females, no herms. All 6 of my females were top notch...

Every person that has smoked it has named it one of their favorite smokes. The shit is downright potent.
What's this? The elite genetic seeds? Like I said if u know the history on elite genetics you should know why his genetics are in question.. I did not say you didn't get fire from it I just said no one really knew if he was actually breeding with the moms he says or not. Raskal already said elite never had his fire og or the white clone and swerve said the same thing.. Threads are still up on thc farmer that says that.. You can go have a look.
 

billcollector99

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Swerve says nobody has his tahoe.... people say alot of things.

Doesnt mean all of them are true...

So maybe its not what i thought it was, which sucks, but how are you or I to know for sure.

For a second i kinda took it as a personal slam, because that is the male that is the basis for my two main F1's...
 

Dizzle Frost

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These are all gage green genetics. This is why I'm glad I'm with them. They are putting out pure fire crosses with proven genetics.. They test heavy and they have proof of every mom and dads.. You can see vigor in them no pollen chucking like some breeders past and present. All my questionable genetics like that do called white x og Lemon chem and lemon Chem has been ditched.. I grew both out they were alright to me not worth keeping.. I've smoked better and to be honest running it up against Tahoe og was a no brainer who won that challenge.
I also ditched alot of other seeds as I don't see my self working with f1s made with a runt male.. That is something I don't want in my grow but it could be someone else treasure.
true alota stuff out lacks vigor .... if your gonna sell seeds than you gotta have vigorous hybrids. nothin worse than a bean peddler tryin to make easy money.
 
Swerve says nobody has his tahoe.... people say alot of things.

Doesnt mean all of them are true...

So maybe its not what i thought it was, which sucks, but how are you or I to know for sure.

For a second i kinda took it as a personal slam, because that is the male that is the basis for my two main F1's...
Damn bill don't take it like that. I'm not trying to slam u at all. I'm just trying to open your eyes to just because someone say one thing doesn't mean that what it is that's my point. Yes true swerve does say alot of shit but when you have raskal and swerve saying the same thing about the same guy don't that raise a eye brow? You right we don't know for sure what's what.
 

billcollector99

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true alota stuff out lacks vigor .... if your gonna sell seeds than you gotta have vigorous hybrids. nothin worse than a bean peddler tryin to make easy money.
Which is my issue with GGG, seems most of their gear is F1. Where is the stabilization?? They make the term "F1"' sound like they are the cream of the crop on their website.

If you are going to sell seeds, as a breeder, shouldn't you finish your crosses before you start selling them?
 
Which is my issue with GGG, seems most of their gear is F1. Where is the stabilization?? They make the term "F1"' sound like they are the cream of the crop on their website.

If you are going to sell seeds, as a breeder, shouldn't you finish your crosses before you start selling them?
When selling f1s like I stated earlier they give you the option to find phenos better then the mom.. That's the goal to create fire.. Bill go check out the strains ggg has.. Go on their site look at the breeding, the test they are doing all the test grows that are out and all you see is fire. Trust me Ive grown alot of strains more than many people on this site and I can say I'm impressed with what these guys are putting out.
 

billcollector99

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When selling f1s like I stated earlier they give you the option to find phenos better then the mom.. That's the goal to create fire.. Bill go check out the strains ggg has.. Go on their site look at the breeding, the test they are doing all the test grows that are out and all you see is fire. Trust me Ive grown alot of strains more than many people on this site and I can say I'm impressed with what these guys are putting out.
What happens when they hit F2 though and the phenos all switch up and nothing matches anymore>

Im not saying they dont have fire.. I just think they are jumping the gun a bit...

Besides i would never sell shit anyway, i give away plants, i give away bud, i give away seeds ;) Im just a giving person i guess :)
 

Dizzle Frost

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Which is my issue with GGG, seems most of their gear is F1. Where is the stabilization?? They make the term "F1"' sound like they are the cream of the crop on their website.

If you are going to sell seeds, as a breeder, shouldn't you finish your crosses before you start selling them?
not entirely ... it would be unrealistic to only sell IBL or stable cubed strains....prices would go thru the roof from breeders demending more for thier end product due to time and space consumption. i cant speak for GGG cuz ive nevr grown anything from them. F1's are always a gamble i guess, but if you bred from an established momma and a sturdy el robusto daddy you should en dup with solid offspring in most cases. IMHO theres no such thing as a stable F1 , but there is uniformity to be found if thier bred right
 
What happens when they hit F2 though and the phenos all switch up and nothing matches anymore>

Im not saying they dont have fire.. I just think they are jumping the gun a bit...

Besides i would never sell shit anyway, i give away plants, i give away bud, i give away seeds ;) Im just a giving person i guess :)
Well a couple people me,skunkie and a couple others got f2 packs so I guess we will see how that goes. I'll start these hp13 f2 soon.
 

Dizzle Frost

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my bad im high lol... your sayin people shouldnt sell untested gear .. i got .. disregard previous transmision lol




holy fuck had to edit this again LOL


shouldnt !
 

billcollector99

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not entirely ... it would be unrealistic to only sell IBL or stable cubed strains....prices would go thru the roof from breeders demending more for thier end product due to time and space consumption. i cant speak for GGG cuz ive nevr grown anything from them. F1's are always a gamble i guess, but if you bred from an established momma and a sturdy el robusto daddy you should en dup with solid offspring in most cases. IMHO theres no such thing as a stable F1 , but there is uniformity to be found if thier bred right
That just makes it sound too easy, lol.

If i have a fire girl, and i know how to pick good males, then it should be no problem to constantly crank out F1 's especially in a state where clones are so abundant.

Or even one good male and sit there and pollinate every good female i come across...
 

billcollector99

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Well a couple people me,skunkie and a couple others got f2 packs so I guess we will see how that goes. I'll start these hp13 f2 soon.
Cool, ill have to find the threads to follow along ;)

Like I said I wasnt trying to Bash them, and I would love to get a hold of the GS, more than anything just asking questions to get other people's opinions.
 
That just makes it sound too easy, lol.

If i have a fire girl, and i know how to pick good males, then it should be no problem to constantly crank out F1 's especially in a state where clones are so abundant.

Or even one good male and sit there and pollinate every good female i come across...
Basically , you just have to grow the progeny to see if the male holds true to his characteristics;). So far every male used has been a big influence in the strains they are puttering out.
 

Dizzle Frost

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That just makes it sound too easy, lol.

If i have a fire girl, and i know how to pick good males, then it should be no problem to constantly crank out F1 's especially in a state where clones are so abundant.

Or even one good male and sit there and pollinate every good female i come across...
yeah it sounds easy i guess lol .... depends what your bredding to make the F1s tho....some stuff is no brainer
 
Cool, ill have to find the threads to follow along ;)

Like I said I wasnt trying to Bash them, and I would love to get a hold of the GS, more than anything just asking questions to get other people's opinions.
A good way to do that is check out the ggg site.. You will see all the test grows and you will also on what forum they are at.. Most are at canna collective and cannazon.. But you will find me, skunk,genuity, hell and alot of others here with test grows..
 

Dizzle Frost

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I dont think people should be charging an arm and a leg for medicine...

but thats a while nother topic, so we can leave that at that, lol.
that will be my longlife gripe to , its retarded how much some breeders want for thier shit....what makes it diff? example; i just culled 2 Mango Haze plants that didnt dazzle the dizzle, how much are a pack of those? were those 2 plants worth anymore than a $4 dollar seed when it came to culling? fuck no! lol they die like the rest , they just cost more to kill haha

most under rated breeder IMHO is Peak Seeds BC , he sells solid hybrids and some old skewl pure strains, no fancy names and 30-40 bux a pack...makes sure yur happy with the end stuff and doesnt think hes jesus.

guys who are charging over 60 a pack are greedy peddlers, i dotn care how good thier genetics are....if i can grow top shelf gear for 30 bux then why are they charging 100-200 a pack, makes zero sense to me
 
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