Harvest

rzza

rzza

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you harvest depending on trich colr and you harvest early every time. how many of you scientists who watch trich development actually cut open a nug and look in there? none of you do so your not even getting a fair idea considering the trichs darken quicker where the light hits em ie; where you look with your (lol) scopes. secondly how many of you watch the trichs color change after you decide to chop? none of you do or you would realise that the trichs continue to change color as the bud dries. I played with it for a while also, trust me its silly because EVERY time a plant is mature and ripe for harvest, the trichs on the outter bud should be 100% amber.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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rzza said:
you harvest depending on trich colr and you harvest early every time. how many of you scientists who watch trich development actually cut open a nug and look in there? none of you do so your not even getting a fair idea considering the trichs darken quicker where the light hits em ie; where you look with your (lol) scopes. secondly how many of you watch the trichs color change after you decide to chop? none of you do or you would realise that the trichs continue to change color as the bud dries. I played with it for a while also, trust me its silly because EVERY time a plant is mature and ripe for harvest, the trichs on the outter bud should be 100% amber.
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You're waiting too long according to Jorge:

http://www.jorgecervantes.tv/2011/10/questions-to-jorge-raspberry-resin-glands/
 
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kindfarms420

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if you wait till its 100% amber its just gonna have a SUPER COUCH LOCK STONE your not suppose to harvest sativas 100% amber that would defeat the purpose of the "UP" sativa high.. waiting that long decreases the THC and increases the CBD it honestly just depends on YOUR personal preference if you like to stay active and stay awake harvest when the trichs are milky white if you want a heavy smoke wait till its more amber and it depends on the strain too
 
AlanF

AlanF

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I think he means to look at each bud as a mass and the surface area of the bud contains very few trichs in comparison to the total amount of trichs in the "core" If the areas that get hit with light reach 100% amber then the inside of the nug is most likely all milky just starting to amber as it gets deeper from the surface of the bud. I agree with not watching trichs as an indicator to being done I look at the chunkiness of the bud. You can get the calyxes to swell so much that the pistils are nearly all gone.

People reading those common books and taking it for the end all of grow knowledge should just do some trial and error. It is amazing what you can learn by doing over time. I think its a big reason why it is hard to judge a strain by a random growers example of it, on most occasions you can look at the bud and tell by the amount of pistils still present that it could have gone another 2-3 weeks. Crazy things happen when you push a common "8-9 weeker" to 10-12 weeks, you get that chunk that you just don't see around commonly.
 
rzza

rzza

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AlanF said:
I think he means to look at each bud as a mass and the surface area of the bud contains very few trichs in comparison to the total amount of trichs in the "core" If the areas that get hit with light reach 100% amber then the inside of the nug is most likely all milky just starting to amber as it gets deeper from the surface of the bud. I agree with not watching trichs as an indicator to being done I look at the chunkiness of the bud. You can get the calyxes to swell so much that the pistils are nearly all gone.

People reading those common books and taking it for the end all of grow knowledge should just do some trial and error. It is amazing what you can learn by doing over time. I think its a big reason why it is hard to judge a strain by a random growers example of it, on most occasions you can look at the bud and tell by the amount of pistils still present that it could have gone another 2-3 weeks. Crazy things happen when you push a common "8-9 weeker" to 10-12 weeks, you get that chunk that you just don't see around commonly.
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well said. im bad with words.
 
rzza

rzza

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kindfarms420 said:
if you wait till its 100% amber its just gonna have a SUPER COUCH LOCK STONE your not suppose to harvest sativas 100% amber that would defeat the purpose of the "UP" sativa high.. waiting that long decreases the THC and increases the CBD it honestly just depends on YOUR personal preference if you like to stay active and stay awake harvest when the trichs are milky white if you want a heavy smoke wait till its more amber and it depends on the strain too
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your just repeating what you read. your better than that.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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rzza said:
fuck jorge
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Honestly rzza, I have no idea what you're talking about.

A plants primary purpose is to carry on it's genetics. To reproduce. Resin glands play a roll in this. They are present on the plants SURFACE to help protect it from pests, inclement weather, and make the plant taste less palatable to animals that would otherwise eat it. They also protect the plant against UVB rays from the sun. The vast majority of resin glands exist on the surface of the plant due to these evolutionary reasons.

What you're saying makes absolutely no sense to me.
 
stumpjumper

stumpjumper

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st0wandgrow said:
Honestly rzza, I have no idea what you're talking about.

A plants primary purpose is to carry on it's genetics. To reproduce. Resin glands play a roll in this. They are present on the plants SURFACE to help protect it from pests, inclement weather, and make the plant taste less palatable to animals that would otherwise eat it. They also protect the plant against UVB rays from the sun. The vast majority of resin glands exist on the surface of the plant due to evolutionary reasons that I touched on above.

What you're saying makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Naw man, Trichs are all over inside the bud too.. but like I said, the ones inside are older, and you are right too because the ones inside were the ones outside, before the bud grew more.... get it?
 
stumpjumper

stumpjumper

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There's more than just trich color... and like mentioned already, some strains don't even turn amber. There's a bunch of things to look for and when they are all present, then it's time to harvest.

Are the calyxs swollen?, are the pistils browned and RECEEDING back into the calyx?, Has the bud stopped growing (the presence of white pistils should be next to none except for a few on the tip of each bracket.) are the leaves yellowing... I don't even look at the trichomes until I see all of the rest of this.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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stumpjumper said:
Naw man, Trichs are all over inside the bud too.. but like I said, the ones inside are older, and you are right too because the ones inside were the ones outside, before the bud grew more.... get it?
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No I don't. I'm open to learning something new, but unless you can prove otherwise, I will stick with the theory that the vast majority of resin glands are on the plant surface.

Another function of the sticky resin glands is to catch male pollen. How would glands on the inside of the bud help with that, or any of the other things I referenced above?
 
stumpjumper

stumpjumper

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What I mean is, the trichs inside the bud were the ones on the outside before the new growth covered them up... I think that's a better explanation lol.
 
stumpjumper

stumpjumper

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Here is the main bud...


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Main bud with a couple brackets cut out, this is the INSIDE of the brackets, these actually were NEVER on the outside because they were always facing the inside of the plant..


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This is the inside of one of the brackets that I cut apart, still loaded with trichs.. These probably never seen any light at all...
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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stumpjumper said:
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Here is the main bud...


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Main bud with a couple brackets cut out, this is the INSIDE of the brackets, these actually were NEVER on the outside because they were always facing the inside of the plant..


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This is the inside of one of the brackets that I cut apart, still loaded with trichs.. These probably never seen any light at all...
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Isn't that still the surface of the plant? I'm talking about inside the flower.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
 
stumpjumper

stumpjumper

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Well that's the outer surface of the inside of the flower lol.. I think you are meaning the inside of the plant material? Yeah there's no trichs in there..
 
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