About Dr sulak & Maine Intregrative Healthcare First hand???

[Maine Brookies]

it's not the genetics that make a strain topshelf......it's the grower......experience and knowledge gets you to top shelf meds......

Genetics is still a huge part of the equation. God herself couldn't take Iowa ditchweed and turn it into medical cannabis.

 

[tet1953]

"I was under the impression that a care provider is a nonprofit type of position."

If the Legislature wanted caregivers to be nonprofit the law would require that caregivers need to be a 501(c) corporation. The law has no such condition so i have to say that, in my opinion, your impression is off base.

This is still a crime under federal law. If you can afford a lawyer at $175/oz more power to ya but i think it's unreasonable to project what should be reasonable to someone else.

I guess it comes down to what non profit means. Dispensaries are supposed to be non profit too. To me, that does not mean that the people involved in the dispensary or caregiver business (yes, it is a business) can't make a living. The time, labor and expertise of the grower ought to be compensated for. Is that a profit?
Also, regarding prices as we have discussed before there is a good reason for meds to be about the same as street prices. Otherwise, there would be diversion to the black market. If not by the dispensary/caregiver, then by patients. That is a very generalized comment though. I'm sure many of us have patients who simply don't have that kind of money and we take care of them too.

 

[Maine Brookies]

there is a good reason for meds to be about the same as street prices. Otherwise, there would be diversion to the black market. If not by the dispensary/caregiver, then by patients. That is a very generalized comment though. I'm sure many of us have patients who simply don't have that kind of money and we take care of them too.

Exactly. If someone is gonna make money off my labor it's gonna be me dammit! But show me a patient in need who i'm sure will not divert and i'll do whatever i can for that person.

 

[freelife04239]

I guess I should say I think it should be like a nonprofit then. Nonprofit places still pay their employs. So running a grow like a nonprofit you could still pay yourself 10.00 an hour for your labor. I agree there is nothing wrong with making a little profit. Just think can you afford your own meds, and how do you keep it affordable while keeping good quality. Great meds mean nothing if in our hard times people can’t afford it. It is a fact that unhealthy people tend to have less money and success. That is something I would think a care provider should keep in mind. Are we here to capitalize on patients or help them? Like I say I understand we all have to pay are bills and I have been shown there are more cost for bigger and better grows. But I still see no reason for the black market prices to stay. I wish they would let us grow it in are gardens. I’m sure many people would hate the idea because that could flood the local market and drop the prices. To tell you I would get off on flooding the market with thousands of pounds and making the prices affordable to everyone but that is a crazy dream lol.

 

[freelife04239]

Well that’s the point to take care of each other. But also if we go below the street price we drive down the black market price. Then it’s not worth selling black market because of the risk and low profit. If the black market thins out because of this, then we get less negative attention from the illegal activity these black market people are involved with.

Everything is cause and effect we could have direct control over black market prices. I have seen a rise in price on the black market sense the laws have allowed care providers. I believe this is because some People that are now legal care providers were the black market before. This makes a lack of quality black market product so with the product not as abundant and the demand still around the prices went up. The legal growers now don’t sell black market because it’s just not worth the trouble you could get in. so to me it looks like we have helped the black market with this way of thinking.

 

[tet1953]

freelife, if you are right about low med prices driving down street prices (I don't think you are, btw..only legalization for everybody might do that), it could only occur if the aforementioned diversion was taking place, and even then the effect would be minimal.

 

[Maine Brookies]

But also if we go below the street price we drive down the black market price.

The only thing that will drive down the black market price is overabundance of product. High end cannabis in California's black market still sells for more than $175/oz. I hear what yer saying and agree in principle - but experience has taught me that underpricing generally results in someone else profiting from your labor.

People that are now legal care providers were the black market before.

Actually, i know about as many growers that are quite happy with the risk/reward ratio of the status quo as i do people who have gone legit.

 

[freelife04239]

I very well could be wrong we all have our personal bias. Again I’m not trying to force my opinion on any one here just enjoying voicing my ideas and the friendly banter.
I like to hear all the different point of views.

 

[freelife04239]

Well all the i's have dots and all the T's are crossed. My friend went to their doctor just to fallow up treatment for their chronic pain. They had a long talk about using mmj for treating the chronic pain. The doctor prescribed no meds to them and listed that the person uses mmj to treat. The doctor copied the record and said to add it to what they already for sulak. There are more details but these are the ones that count. No negative comments were made about it.

 

[freelife04239]

sorry no need to have up any more