The "I don't starve my plants before harvest" thread

[rocpilefsj]

Do we really have to start arguing about this again? There is nothing in this thread that hasn't been beaten to death already but people still need to keep bumping it back to the top of the page?

 

[wbd]

I think flushing is for toilets

How can you comment when you've never even harvested an MJ plant before?

 

[wbd]

Do we really have to start arguing about this again? There is nothing in this thread that hasn't been beaten to death already but people still need to keep bumping it back to the top of the page?

Cmon dude you know this argument will never die, in this thread or the next...

 

[mr. green thumb 01]

All of these plants have been starved..Do they look hungry to you? Starved coca cola size buds...? My last starved plant was 166grams dried and cured off about 2.5-3ft tall! which is not rare! mmmm.. go new york purple diesel

 

[Eraserhead]

Jorge Cervantes said all the cup growers flush without exception, Greg Green and Ed Rosenthol both say to flush. Three guys that have been around more then a few grow operations. The three of them talk to thousands of top notch growers from all over the world. Why would all the growers they know lie to them?
Why do I doubt that anyone here knows more then the three of them?
Get out and publish a few million books then visit a few thousand grow rooms. When your done, come tell us how it is.

Some say I need to flush because I over feed... I say you don't need to flush because you under feed. Perhaps you might get a few more ounces if you give the girls what they need.

Flushers are toilet growers? Non-flushers are turd savers?

With all due respect, why should we listen to all these growers from the 60s and 70s? This is 2012 man! Things are different.

Hey mom look at me! I'm coolz because I flush like Jorge! Like Jorge mom!

And check your grammar man. I highlighted your errors. "Then" is a place in time, not a comparison, there you'd want to use "than". "Your" shows ownership. "You're" means "you are".

 

[Harrekin]

All of these plants have been starved..Do they look hungry to you? Starved coca cola size buds...? My last starved plant was 166grams dried and cured off about 2.5-3ft tall! which is not rare! mmmm.. go new york purple diesel

Looks like a very high leaf to calyx ratio, they look like outdoor plants...maybe you should've fed till the end? Lol.

 

[markybuds]

i'm in bubbleponics and i flush with plain water for 2 days every 3-4 weeks for salt build-up in the root mass. one thing i do do.. is i reduce the nitrogen i feed in the last few weeks. there arent chemicals in the buds. if you do a tight manicure job there should be barely any sugarleaf on your buds. starving a plant at its most vital stage is ridiculous there are some nutrients that are not mobile and cant be supplied by the leaves themselves.

you guys can make the argument .... you'll just never make sense

happy growing

 

[Eraserhead]

Hows the bubbleponics work out for you in early veg? I have heard that is it much faster than DWC. In my experience, DWC worked the fastest for me in the early stages, then soil-less mixes, then regular soil, which I have quit altogether 3 years ago.

I am experimenting with coco right now, and just finished my highest yield ever, a DWC grow, and prior, I used Promix for a couple years with great results.

I plan to go full time DWC in the next months, much less messy.

i'm in bubbleponics and i flush with plain water for 2 days every 3-4 weeks for salt build-up in the root mass. one thing i do do.. is i reduce the nitrogen i feed in the last few weeks. there arent chemicals in the buds. if you do a tight manicure job there should be barely any sugarleaf on your buds. starving a plant at its most vital stage is ridiculous there are some nutrients that are not mobile and cant be supplied by the leaves themselves.

you guys can make the argument .... you'll just never make sense

happy growing

 

[markybuds]

Hows the bubbleponics work out for you in early veg? I have heard that is it much faster than DWC. In my experience, DWC worked the fastest for me in the early stages, then soil-less mixes, then regular soil, which I have quit altogether 3 years ago.

I am experimenting with coco right now, and just finished my highest yield ever, a DWC grow, and prior, I used Promix for a couple years with great results.

I plan to go full time DWC in the next months, much less messy.

growth always seems to be full steam ahead, with the exception of a few days in between transplant of my rockwool into my 3'' netcups. i've got a nice system going for my available space i'm using. i grow perpetual in individual coolers. 2 2-gallon coolers for veg and 2 5-gallon coolers for flower. i'm always coming up with ways to improve my system based on my growing techniques and simple convenience. i've done aeroponics before this method but given my space it wasnt optimal. i've become interested in soil lately because i ran an AUTO freebie recently and liked the results. so i'm thinking of making that a part of my 'all the time' thing even looking to learn more about LED's so i can maybe run that with my auto project as opposed to CFL's like i did the 1st time.

edit: i flower with a 600w hps but use a metal hallide the 1st three weeks to minimize stretch i use CFL's for veg and also on my auto i grew out. didnt wanna confuse you and make you think i grow completely with CFL's

 

[del66666]

i dont flush .............a few of my girls 12-12 from seed........

 

[Eraserhead]

Yes, this is my first time online Jorge jr.

Can I have your autograph?

Now that is the funniest thing posted here. This your first time online? (Oh, I mean "Is this your first time online?")

We are grateful to have have Eraserhead to grade our papers.

 

[Eraserhead]

Not only that, you mentioned YOU don't even smoke weed?

You don't? You don't smoke?

But you have such a strong opinion to where you want to email relics about flushing?

Get lost you tool.

Now that is the funniest thing posted here. This your first time online? (Oh, I mean "Is this your first time online?")

We are grateful to have have Eraserhead to grade our papers.

 

[El Superbeasto]

And I'm glad there's people like you that do not care about their grammar. Makes things funny for smart people. Are you an animal? Did you not go to school? Jebus Crust peoples.....

And btw, fuck Jorge. He's a journalist.

You "email" Jorge? Tell him "2012 called and said to go fuck yourself" next time y'all chat.

Now that is the funniest thing posted here. This your first time online? (Oh, I mean "Is this your first time online?")

We are grateful to have have Eraserhead to grade our papers.

 

[IHaveTheTruth]

I guess flushing might also be related to the method you grow with(soil, hydro), probably any other media used, types of nutrients. What strain you're working with. Are you growing organic, or using "super-bloomer", like a Shooting Powder? There's all kinds of factors that really go into this, right?
Truthfully, the only way you could know what chemical compounds your herb is made of would be gas spectrometry, or some other sort of lab testing.
Flushing can also be used to achieve some desired characteristics, by the grower. And what you smell, taste or see, might not be all of what's in there...
So, since a lot of us won't be getting lab testing done, I guess it's personal preference...

 

[Eraserhead]

[video=youtube;f8fbrUjjivw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8fbrUjjivw[/video]

And who put these pencils in my hand?!

 

[Eraserhead]

Would you like a button? Or a star?

What's your point? Relics from the olden days telling us carburetors are better than fuel injection? Or asbestos is better than polyurethane foam? Christians telling us the world is flat?

Maybe you need a time out there champ?

You don't have to like Jorge, Greg, or Ed to know the above statement is untrue.

Jorge Cervantes:

• The Easy Guide for Cannabis Aficionados June 5, 2009
• Marijuana Indoors: Five Easy Gardens January 1, 1999
• Indoor Marijuana Horticulture September 2001
• Marijuana Outdoors January 1, 2000
• Marijuana Horticulture: The Indoor/Outdoor Medical Grower's
  Bible February 1, 2006
• Marijuana: Jorge's RX May 2004
• High Times Growers Series: Jorge Cervantes' Ultimate Grow
  DVD (2006) (2007)

BTW Einstein.... Van Patten (as Jorge Cervantes) first published the book Indoor Marijuana Horticulture in 1983


Greg Green:

• The Cannabis Grow Bible November 26, 2009
• The Cannabis Breeder's Bible April 15, 2005
• Cannabis Indica August 30, 2011

I don't think Greg published anything before 2007

Ed Rosenthal

• Marijuana Grower's Handbook June 8, 2010
• Marijuana Garden Saver December 1, 2008
• Marijuana Pest and Disease Control May 29, 2012
• Ask Ed: Marijuana Gold: Trash to Stash December 12, 2002

I rest my case.

Google the word "Bubble Bucket" to correct more of my english.

 

[Eraserhead]

There is a guy with a giant butterfly net looking for you. And a short bus.

It's cool man. I'll come visit you in the booby hatch. I'm a nice person. Would you like me to bring you anything? No files though. And no shoe laces.

Who are you talking about? Most of the stuff is current.
Why so hostile? You need to change strain or flush before harvest to get out the stuff that making your so grumpy.

 

[El Superbeasto]

I have an extra Hooked on Phonics I can hook your boy up with. I got it at a yard sale, came with a lamp I bought. Maybe Rumples can get something out if it.

There is a guy with a giant butterfly net looking for you. And a short bus.

It's cool man. I'll come visit you in the booby hatch. I'm a nice person. Would you like me to bring you anything? No files though. And no shoe laces.

Rumply, my Hooked on Phonics is yours brother. Can you say "B R O T H E R" ?

Who are you talking about? Most of the stuff is current.
Why so hostile? You need to change strain or flush before harvest to get out the stuff thats making your so grumpy.

 

[Eraserhead]

Growing with 80s and 90s tech, flushing like the cavemen did. Maybe you should write a book.

It'd be in the comedy section.

I'm hitting 0.9 grams per watt of solid dense potent buds with my LEDs, somebody better call my momma..... And, I'm not selling LEDs, nor have anything to gain regardless of what light people use. The 0.9 is for myself.

What are you getting with your heat lamps?

Check this out, I have been growing for roughly 20 years, and used HPS, fluorescent lights (can you say "fluorescent", repeat after me f l u o r e s c e n t , rolls right off your tongue once you can grasp basic English), and I also grew for years outdoors. I know what I'm doing.

I'm not a newb Jorge jr.. Better recognize, this is 2012 fool!

Ok, I'm a slow typer and have bad grammar (tiz a fact).
But I never got suckered into buying a LED lamp... Soooooo how that going for you sport? Need to barrow a few bucks and some of my trimming?

LOL!

Rumple's 2nd LED Challenge

 

[markybuds]

You don't have to like Jorge, Greg, or Ed to know the above statement is untrue.

Jorge Cervantes:

• The Easy Guide for Cannabis Aficionados June 5, 2009
• Marijuana Indoors: Five Easy Gardens January 1, 1999
• Indoor Marijuana Horticulture September 2001
• Marijuana Outdoors January 1, 2000
• Marijuana Horticulture: The Indoor/Outdoor Medical Grower's
  Bible February 1, 2006
• Marijuana: Jorge's RX May 2004
• High Times Growers Series: Jorge Cervantes' Ultimate Grow
  DVD (2006) (2007)

BTW Einstein.... Van Patten (as Jorge Cervantes) first published the book Indoor Marijuana Horticulture in 1983 (rewrote it in 2001)


Greg Green:

• The Cannabis Grow Bible November 26, 2009
• The Cannabis Breeder's Bible April 15, 2005
• Cannabis Indica August 30, 2011

I don't think Greg published anything before 2007

Ed Rosenthal

• Marijuana Grower's Handbook June 8, 2010
• Marijuana Garden Saver December 1, 2008
• Marijuana Pest and Disease Control May 29, 2012
• Ask Ed: Marijuana Gold: Trash to Stash December 12, 2002

I rest my case.

Google the word "Bubble Bucket" to correct more of my English.

funny.. i've got Ed Rosenthals new book 'Marijuana Growers Handbook' the official course book for oaksterdam university and there isnt one mention of flush in the entire book.
not one.
not even in the reference pages in the back of the book.
and in this book he covers every single aspect of growing.. top to bottom.
inside and out. pardon the pun
he fails to mention anything about flushing.

use common sense and form your own opinions based whats in front of you..
just because some dude writes a book and keeps regurgitating the same info over and over, just giving it a new cover and title, doesnt make it a new book.
if Jorge told you to smear your own shit on the base of your stems to improve taste i bet you'd try it

completely flushing in hydro is moronic