fishtank/aquarium water

Coop25

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I had alot of aquariums awhile ago, i started to water all my house plants with the water when i cleaned my tank every week, they all died within a a month, but thats just me, iv herd alot of ppl do it also and it works great
 

david6767

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fish tank water is a superb feed for cannabis plants, if used once a week and not every watering.

contains nitrates and nitrites the plants are able to utilise.
 

STANDOX

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wow this is interesting probably should still check ph but hell im gonnma give this a whirl...
 

swansong

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you have to be careful when using tank water, especially if you use de-chlorinator on the water. Why? becuase the de-chlorinator works by binding the metals and gasses present in the water and making them chemicaly inert or in other words useless. Cannabis plants require these heavy metals in trace elements to stay healthy, calcium, magnesium, boron etc etc.. So obviously if you are making your tank water safe for your fish by adding chemicals, than chances are you are locking out many of the nutrients your plants would need.

There are a few exceptions to this, mainly in the brand or purpose of the chemical additives. Some of the additives are designed to work in tanks or aquariums where living plants are present, and hence they use 'safer' techniques to 'de-toxify' the water.

You can normally see on the back of the additives if they are safe to be used in tanks containing plants.

With all that said, you are really better off using tap water for a whole host of other reasons (eg. fish urine contains ammonia: not good for plants), unless there is an unusual reason why you cannot.

If you fill a bucket of tap water the night before you intend to use it, the chlorine (being a gas) will dissipate over night. The other elements that remain in the tap water will not be overly damaging to the plants. PH and EC level are far more important issues.
 

rkm

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I had alot of aquariums awhile ago, i started to water all my house plants with the water when i cleaned my tank every week, they all died within a a month, but thats just me, iv herd alot of ppl do it also and it works great
Was it from a saltwater tank? My plants love the water from a freshwater tank.
 

rkm

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you have to be careful when using tank water, especially if you use de-chlorinator on the water. Why? becuase the de-chlorinator works by binding the metals and gasses present in the water and making them chemicaly inert or in other words useless. Cannabis plants require these heavy metals in trace elements to stay healthy, calcium, magnesium, boron etc etc.. So obviously if you are making your tank water safe for your fish by adding chemicals, than chances are you are locking out many of the nutrients your plants would need.

There are a few exceptions to this, mainly in the brand or purpose of the chemical additives. Some of the additives are designed to work in tanks or aquariums where living plants are present, and hence they use 'safer' techniques to 'de-toxify' the water.

You can normally see on the back of the additives if they are safe to be used in tanks containing plants.

With all that said, you are really better off using tap water for a whole host of other reasons (eg. fish urine contains ammonia: not good for plants), unless there is an unusual reason why you cannot.

If you fill a bucket of tap water the night before you intend to use it, the chlorine (being a gas) will dissipate over night. The other elements that remain in the tap water will not be overly damaging to the plants. PH and EC level are far more important issues.
Chlorine will evaporate in a few hours. I just use tap water, but with a saltwater tank I need the higher PH so it works out for me. Chlorine has never been a problem for me, I just let it evaporate out of the water.

Dont let fish waste be a deterant for not using the water. If the tanks bio system is functioning properly you will not have ammonia to begin with. If your tank shows ammonia then you have other problems and fish will be dieing. Fish water has a lot of good stuff in it that plants like.
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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I would not use Fish tank water, for the same reason i would not use rain water run off from my roof. Just to much of a chance to get something in the water. Like rain water.. hmmmmm they say it has Acid in it now a days and is killing of frogs. Tank water.. I have three tanks, and when I got home from mexico They all had Algae Ploom. I could not get rid of it for 2 weeks, until i added AlgaeFix to the tanks. Walla nice crystal clear tanks. I am sure this would hurt my plants somehow. And what happens if I have a sick fish in my tank, and it made some kind of weird bacteria in the water. Just not worth the chance to me.....
 

rkm

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I would not use Fish tank water, for the same reason i would not use rain water run off from my roof. Just to much of a chance to get something in the water. Like rain water.. hmmmmm they say it has Acid in it now a days and is killing of frogs. Tank water.. I have three tanks, and when I got home from mexico They all had Algae Ploom. I could not get rid of it for 2 weeks, until i added AlgaeFix to the tanks. Walla nice crystal clear tanks. I am sure this would hurt my plants somehow. And what happens if I have a sick fish in my tank, and it made some kind of weird bacteria in the water. Just not worth the chance to me.....
You are missing a very important point. If the water is good enough to keep an animal alive it is "clean", but maybe not for direct human consumption. Plants also grow underwater in fishtanks and still need the same nutrients that land plants need. Photosynthesis is also the same.

Algae blooms are usually caused by to much light or the bio-system is overloaded. Do more water changes, remove livestock and drastically reduce the light are common fixes for algae blooms, they are a pain. Had my fair share of them.
 

swansong

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thats true to some extent, but you have to consider how the notrogen cycle actually works, the fish waste and excess food is converted to ammonia before the filters bacteria can begin converting it to nitrogen. During this conversion period which is ongoing there will be at least some ammonia in the system. Also once the ammonia is converted to nitrogen, you would then have to have living plants to convert the nitrogen to nitrate. So someone without living plants in the tank system, is going to get an excessive build up of nitrogen. Or in contrast to that, if you do have plants, then you will get a build up of nitrate (nitrogens waste by-product) both of these elements can quickly reach undesirable levels in fish tanks.

So while there are certainly going to be some beneficial elements in the tank water (providing you havent locked them out with de-chlorinator), there are always going to be more that are undesirable. All that is said before you even start talking about the fact the the nutrient ratios are never going to be right, let alone perfect. Especially during the flowering period. There will far too much nitrogen in virtually any tank water, to be anywhere near right for flowering.

So for anyone wanting to produce good quality bud, you really should consider buying the easily available and cheap nutrient packs.
 

rkm

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Reply is below in red.

thats true to some extent, but you have to consider how the notrogen cycle actually works, the fish waste and excess food is converted to ammonia before the filters bacteria can begin converting it to nitrogen. During this conversion period which is ongoing there will be at least some ammonia in the system. Also once the ammonia is converted to nitrogen, you would then have to have living plants to convert the nitrogen to nitrate. So someone without living plants in the tank system, is going to get an excessive build up of nitrogen. Or in contrast to that, if you do have plants, then you will get a build up of nitrate (nitrogens waste by-product) both of these elements can quickly reach undesirable levels in fish tanks.

I have had fishtanks for 25 years, I am well aware of the nitrogen cycle. I can go test my tank right now and it will not show any ammonia. Sure, it may be there but at a ppm level that is harmless to anything. Nitrogen is the end result of the nitrogen cycle and should be the only thing test kits should show for a healthy tank. Yes you can also get a build up of nitrogen, hence a reason for water changes, the nitrogen has no where to go. But land plants need nitrogen, a little boost is not going to hurt them. In any tank you have some form of a plant. Whether it is a plant as we know it, or algae.

So while there are certainly going to be some beneficial elements in the tank water (providing you havent locked them out with de-chlorinator), there are always going to be more that are undesirable. All that is said before you even start talking about the fact the the nutrient ratios are never going to be right, let alone perfect. Especially during the flowering period. There will far too much nitrogen in virtually any tank water, to be anywhere near right for flowering.

In my area we dont use chemical de-chlorinators, the chlorine will go away by itself, we dont worry about it. One fish store does not even stock it. Every other watering or so will not hurt the plants with nitrogen, there is not enough there. If you do not properly maintain the tank the nitrogen will start having adverse affects on the tank first.

So for anyone wanting to produce good quality bud, you really should consider buying the easily available and cheap nutrient packs.
 

Lord Dangly Bits

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You are missing a very important point. If the water is good enough to keep an animal alive it is "clean", but maybe not for direct human consumption. Plants also grow underwater in fishtanks and still need the same nutrients that land plants need. Photosynthesis is also the same.

Algae blooms are usually caused by to much light or the bio-system is overloaded. Do more water changes, remove livestock and drastically reduce the light are common fixes for algae blooms, they are a pain. Had my fair share of them.

I understand all of this. But I will not take a chance useing water that i have no idea was has infected it, or chemicals are with in it. With City water you know it has been filtered, just let it sit for 24 hours.. With R/O water as i use. I just have to add CalMag to my tanks. It is just the way I grow. Just because that one guy uses his own Piss, does not mean I do not understand the issue when I do not use it. TO EACH HIS OWN....
If you use tank water, and never had a problem, I am very happy for you. But I would hate to kill off a crop in the 6th week because of contaminated water.
 

rkm

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I understand all of this. But I will not take a chance useing water that i have no idea was has infected it, or chemicals are with in it. With City water you know it has been filtered, just let it sit for 24 hours.. With R/O water as i use. I just have to add CalMag to my tanks. It is just the way I grow. Just because that one guy uses his own Piss, does not mean I do not understand the issue when I do not use it. TO EACH HIS OWN....
If you use tank water, and never had a problem, I am very happy for you. But I would hate to kill off a crop in the 6th week because of contaminated water.
I agree, everyone has their own way. But if the tank is contaminated, the fish would die. As far as using piss, I agree, I will not use it either. That in fact would be a direct shot of ammonia.
 

Coop25

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Was it from a saltwater tank? My plants love the water from a freshwater tank.
No it was freshwater, i was adding alot of chemicals to the tank prior to watering the plants, that prolly palyed a big part in the death tho
 

swansong

Active Member
there you go, you probably locked the trace elements out of the water, and then by watering the plants you most likely locked them out of the plants container. :-(

Still a lesson learned....
 

teeach

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mm think i'll give it a miss for now as its my first time griowing then experiment a bit later with different setups etc. my tank has lost two fish since setup before xmas i think they were dodgy fish from the shop, i dont treat the water personally b

cheers anywayut it has a multi filter system with treatments in the sponges i think so i wont risk it
 
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