some real advice please!?

[hope full]

Thanks pat! And that you to everone who responded I am very appreciative to every one, this thread will be great for any one suffering from these kids of problems or has a loved one that dose!

 

[ChaniceKobolowski]

Your friend needs to deal with his anxiety in general. It sounds like he is having significant symptoms, including panic attacks and lowered mood. He should get some help by visiting a mental health provider for counseling and possibly a medication provider for anti-anxiety meds if he is open to this option. If he learns to manage his anxiety well, he may be able to smoke without/ or fewer symptoms, but some people who suffer from anxiety are never able to partake. Weed physically increases heart rate, a symptom of anxiety as well. For some people this association leads to panic, like your friend. He may be able lose this mental connection over time.

 

[hope full]

Rep to ya chani

 

[obijohn]

I'm guessing he is smoking sativa, that makes my heart pound. Indica doesn't do that, it's more calming

 

[hope full]

Nope smoking some my widow. Indy, but I'm just gonna get him to start really small, like a babby hit or two and go from there

 

[sso]

so whats he paranoid about?

just the heartrate?

breathe through it and focus on something nice.

its all in his head.

 

[UncleBuck]

does your friend work? if so, his employer may offer EAP, in which case he could talk to a professional about this. if he goes to school, the school might offer some amount of free counseling as well.

i went to see someone when i had a non-cannabis related panic attack back in college, and what we talked about during that one session i still apply to this day, almost a decade later. i even apply it to when i smoke and my heart rate gets elevated, causing me to start feeling panicked.

also, if he is not in school or working (or if his work does not offer EAP), there are many clinics around that will offer mental health providers. i highly suggest that he consider this route.

by the way, who do you suppose chanicekobolowski might be?

 

[Finshaggy]

This happens to about 1% of smokers.
I know about 4 people, and have read threads on here about 3 more people that are the same way.

It's mental,
But it might never be reversed.
He's gotta just smoke through it, or quit smoking.

I know people that just started doing bars or coke, and never touched weed again after a couple of those feelings

 

[Finshaggy]

It's called "Anxiety" or a "Panic attack".

 

[hope full]

I have no clue uncle lol thank you so much, and yes from what hes said its just the heart thing, he smokes realizes his shits beatin fast and hard and booom, balls to the wall panic!tears me up to see him like that, wish I could help more cause I know how much m.j and to be honest I notice how hes changed since he quif, he seemed more vibrant when he used to smoke nit so much stressesd..

 

[Finshaggy]

Try some herbal alternatives.

Kava, Kratom, etc.

See how he takes to them, and you can have some fun taking them the same time as bud to multiply effects

 

[UncleBuck]

I have no clue uncle lol thank you so much, and yes from what hes said its just the heart thing, he smokes realizes his shits beatin fast and hard and booom, balls to the wall panic!tears me up to see him like that, wish I could help more cause I know how much m.j and to be honest I notice how hes changed since he quif, he seemed more vibrant when he used to smoke nit so much stressesd..

that sucks to hear about your friend. chanice is actually my wife and a trained psychologist, she picked up what you said about your friend not seeming the same. as she noted, there are many presenting symptoms and he would do well to see someone if he is having anxiety in general like you say.

does he work or go to school or have any options for free counseling through something like that?

 

[hope full]

Ill look into that, but I do have to admit his heart pounds like he just ran a dam mile, kinda freaky, but they say you cant die.... I hope

 

[hope full]

And I know for a fact he would have to come out of his pocke to see some one, from what hes said his panic attacks used to be really bad and they have improved, it sucks cause hes had a rough life, I know we all have but hia is prettt bad, m.j was his release, or from what iv seen anyways.

 

[squarepush3r]

i started having panic attacks from smoking several years ago, and haven't been able to handle much since

 

[hope full]

Love your sig man, that was a sick documentary.

 

[UncleBuck]

And I know for a fact he would have to come out of his pocke to see some one, from what hes said his panic attacks used to be really bad and they have improved, it sucks cause hes had a rough life, I know we all have but hia is prettt bad, m.j was his release, or from what iv seen anyways.

if he has to pay out of pocket, some places will see him for very reasonable rates.

 

[Jack Harer]

Nope smoking some my widow. Indy, but I'm just gonna get him to start really small, like a babby hit or two and go from there

Not trying to derail or hijack, but I was under the impression that WW is a Sat Dom strain? Never grew it, so I'm asking.

 

[sso]

so,what is he paranoid about?

 

[Jack Harer]

so,what is he paranoid about?

SSO, the paranoia I BELIEVE he's talking about is a generalized anxiety, and is a dominant effect of some Sativas. It has no "focal point' or basis for it, To me, it reminds me of when I came to in the morning after an all night drinking binge, and that really bad overwhelming sense of anxiety and impending doom sets in. I have had the experience dude is describing when I first started growing and smoking Sats
Nevils Haze is a particularly notorious one!!