abandonconflict
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Zombiekiller
Grand Old Party's grand old contributions to freedom
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Carl Spackler
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Nor does today's Democratic Party in any way resemble a fiscally responsible, JFK led party of the 60's. A democrat from that era would be considered a nazi by the current administration.
desert dude
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It is a terrible shame that both major parties are simply two heads on an authoritarian beast determined to destroy what once made America a glorious place.
UncleBuck
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yeah, we should move to syria in protest of what a shithole this nation has become.
abandonconflict
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Carl Spackler
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I'm not sure you understood my quote, maybe this one will put a finer point on it..." I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the party left me" -Ronald Reagan (Reagan voted for FDR 4 times)
desert dude
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I guess you think the Syrians should be grateful for the iron-handed rule of Assad? After all, it could be worse, they might be in Somalia if not for their good luck.
abandonconflict
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Fine contribution to freedom there chap.
Harrekin
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Just outta interest, as you are a proud Republican but don't support Ron Paul...which of those other (potentially) mildly retarded POS idiot candidates do you support?
You don't ever really say, I just wonder so I can get some better context from your posts. Mittens? Newt? ... Santorum? (God forbid...no pun intended).
NLXSK1
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I am a registered independent... I am closest to a libertarian than anything else. Why do conservatives automatically have to be Republican?
And I had nothing against Ron Paul till Deprave and Beardo made me hate him through their incessant posts on this site. BUT HE CANNOT GET THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION!!! - that is a minor point to some people but important to me.
ANYBODY BUTTTTT OBAMA!!!!
mccumcumber
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That's racist... On a more serious note. You bring up an interesting point. It seems that these: "I'll vote for Ron Paul no matter what people" have a fundamental misunderstanding of what that will cause. Think what the "only vote for Nader" crowd did to Al Gore vs Bush. Your vote for Ron Paul actually helps Obama, and almost all Ron Paul supporters are very open about how much they despise Obama. I couldn't careless really... my vote has gone the way of a third party whenever I've decided to vote. I'm well aware that who I vote for isn't going to get elected, but the Ron Paulistas don't seem to understand that they're actually helping Obama out. Kind of funny to me.
abandonconflict
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Yes, I am quite aware that Reagan was a Neocon.
"I now have absolute proof that smoking even one marijuana cigarette is equal in brain damage to being on Bikini Island during an H-bomb blast." ~Ronald Reagan.
next...
NLXSK1
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desert dude
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Speaking as a Ron Paul supporter, I don't care what my vote might do to any other candidate. From a tactical point of view, what I care about is policy. If Newt/Romney/Santorum would implement the policies I favor (less war, more freedom, end the drug war, treat the public treasury responsibly) then I would happily vote for any of them, same goes for Obama.
If the independent vote costs the Republicans the presidency and throws it to Obama, then they have only themselves to blame for not accomodating the independent voter's wishes. The Repubs seem to believe that they own the libertarian vote under the, "when it comes down to the actual election the libertarians will vote R to prevent Obama from a second term", i.e. exactly the scenario you spell out.
The way I see it, it's time for the Republicans to kiss my ass if they want my vote (enact the policies spelled out above), not the other way around. This approach is the real power behind Ron Paul's campaign.
In other words, there is no cult around Ron Paul. He simply embraces the policies I want to see put in place, and nobody else running in the R or D sphere does. In terms of pure personal preference, I would rather vote for Gary Johnson than Paul because Johnson is younger and more vigorous, and if RP does not get the R nomination then that is exactly what I plan to do: vote for Gary Johnson on the Libertarian ticket. If that throws the election to Obama, then I will be satisfied that I accomplished two things:
1. I voted for a decent person who values the American ideals of freedom and independence.
2. It says to the Republican establishment, "if you want to regain the presidency, then you need to quit being such neocon dickheads.
So, you see, Mccucumber, I have no misunderstanding at all.
mccumcumber
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Valid point. I wasn't really aiming it at people like you. What I said may not even apply to people on this site. I've just heard lots of RP supporters saying that they want anyone but Obama, but they will also vote for RP if he's not on the R ticket. I find that theory to be rather counterintuitive.
Maybe if Paul causes lots of Rs to switch to independent voting then he will have effectively rocked the system so the same asshat doesn't represent the republican party year after year. Time will tell.
Maybe if Paul causes lots of Rs to switch to independent voting then he will have effectively rocked the system so the same asshat doesn't represent the republican party year after year. Time will tell.
abandonconflict
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+rep to you my friend.
abandonconflict
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What my forum name is meant to express, is my utter hatred of war. Look, I am not going to appeal to anyone's sense to bravado to sound like a tough guy, but I am one of the guys that says war is bad because I have seen it and it left me disgusted. I don't know how much of a minority that makes me. I vote for two reasons, drug war, any other war.
abandonconflict
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Fuck I agree with every word you said and in the exact order you said them, you are an artist.
abandonconflict
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Right there. Warrior, defender of America.
Brick Top
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You forgot to mention this stuff ... which I am sure was a totally unintentional error ...... caused by your sheer ignorance of historical facts.
HistoryTest
BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY
NOTE: All answers are "b."
NOTE: All answers are "b."
1. What Party was founded as the anti-slavery Party and fought to free blacks from slavery?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party
2. What was the Party of Abraham Lincoln who signed the emancipation proclamation that resulted in the Juneteenth celebrations that occur in black communities today?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party
3. What Party passed the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the U. S. Constitution granting blacks freedom, citizenship, and the right to vote?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party
4. What Party passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 granting blacks protection from the Black Codes and prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations, and was the Party of most blacks prior to the 1960s, including Frederick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington, and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party
5. What was the Party of the founding fathers of the NAACP?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party
6. What was the Party of President Dwight Eisenhower who sent U.S. troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools, established the Civil Rights Commission in 1958, and appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party
7. What Party, by the greatest percentage, passed the Civil Rights Acts of the 1950s and 1960s?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party
8. What was the Party of President Richard Nixon who instituted the first Affirmative Action program in 1969 with the Philadelphia Plan that established goals and timetables?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party
9. What is the Party of President George W. Bush who appointed more blacks to high-level positions than any president in history and who spent record money education, job training and health care to help black Americans prosper?
[ ] a. Democratic Party
[X] b. Republican Party
BLACK POLITICAL HISTORY: THE UNTOLD STORY
NOTE: All answers are "b."
10. What Party fought to keep blacks in slavery and was the Party of the Ku Klux Klan?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party
11. What Party from 1870 to 1930 used fraud, whippings, lynching, murder, intimidation, and mutilation to get the black vote, and passed the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws which legalized racial discrimination and denied blacks their rights as citizens?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party
12. What was the Party of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and President Harry Truman who rejected anti-lynching laws and efforts to establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party
13. What was the Party of President Lyndon Johnson, who called Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. that [N-word] preacher because he opposed the Viet Nam War; and President John F. Kennedy who voted against the 1957 Civil Rights law as a Senator, then as president opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. after becoming president and the FBI investigate Dr. King on suspicion of being a communist?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party
14. What is the Party of the late Senators Robert Byrd who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Ernest Fritz Hollings who hoisted the Confederate flag over the state capitol in South Carolina while governor, and Ted Kennedy who called black judicial nominees Neanderthals while blocking their appointments?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party
15. What was the Party of President Bill Clinton who failed to fight the terrorists after the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, sent troops to war in Bosnia and Kosovo without Congressional approval, vetoed the Welfare Reform law twice before signing it, and refused to comply with a court order to have shipping companies develop an Affirmative Action Plan?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party
16. What is the Party of Vice President Al Gore whose father voted against the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960s, and who lost the 2000 election as confirmed by a second recount of Florida votes by the Miami Herald and a consortium of major news organizations and the ruling by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that blacks were not denied the right to vote?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party
17. What Party is against school vouchers, against school prayers, and takes the black vote for granted without ever acknowledging their racist past or apologizing for trying to expand slavery, lynching blacks and passing the Black Codes and Jim Crow laws that caused great harm to blacks?
[ ] a. Republican Party
[X] b. Democratic Party
http://www.nbra.info/DYK-HistoryTest
