LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

BlueB

BlueB

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I doubt those are accurate. Try looking up that info somewhere else for the same bulb. CFL'S usually emit light high in the yellow wavelengths the same as HPS do. I don't think they know what they're talking about. Misleading info there.
What the heck is this?
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This doesn't look like the output from an induction lamp, so what the heck is the spd graph from please?
http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-lighting/173635-new-induction-grow-light-9.html

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WHERE DO YOU GET THIS LIGHT? I WANT 4 OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is the correct SPD graph for a 2700K CFL,
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I'm having a hard time believing that those middle SPD charts are even real. Everyone here should take a look at this thread over at boards.cannabis.com and figure this crap out. It sounds like someone got sold some bogus type of induction light, but who knows. I don't get it. This person ordered one of these amazing lights and said the CFL did better. Makes me think that the graph is total bogus, false.
 
BlueB

BlueB

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FOUND IT,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/500w-induction-grow-light-full-spectrum-Tunnel-flood-replace-1000w-HPS-/220884521877?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item336dbe5395

Still hard to believe. Does anyone know anything about these?
Looking at the ebay ad, I can tell straight up that this graph they have is an outright lie. They have a photo of the light turned on where half of the light is yellow and half is white. There is NO WAY that this light produces this amount of 660nm wavelength. As UC has stated before, there is no law against false advertising when it comes to lighting. WHAT THE FUCK? How are these people getting away with selling these lights by advertising a falsely generated spectral analysis? There is no way that these graphs are real. Here is this company's website,

http://www.lightpros.us.com/products-page/grow-lights/lp-400-400w-lamp/


http://www.ebay.com/itm/150W-Bi-Spectrum-INDUCTION-GROW-LIGHT-300W-LED-450W-HPS-/270884637317?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f11fb8a85


 
BlueB

BlueB

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http://www.lightpros.us.com/products-page/grow-lights/lp-400-400w-lamp/

Looking at the advertisement on ebay from this company, those amazing spectral analysis charts that I posted earlier ARE FROM LED grow lights not these induction lights!

Why are they showing SPD graphs from HPS, MH and LEDs but NOT THEIR OWN PRODUCT? This is for sure confusing.

So, where is the SPD graph for the light that they sell??????????????? This induction light or whatever they are.
 
A

aoyanagi

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From what I've read induction is basically long-life fluorescent. The bulb is sealed and the mercury gas excited via induction rather than direct current. The phosphors are just as tune-able as for t5s, the bulbs last for freakin' ever, and they are more efficient generally than t5. Higher upfront cost, and I hadn't heard of that particular company. Inda-grow I think were the ones I was looking at.

Edit: Inda-Gro

I just called them, to get a proPAR 420 unit shipped to my door in 2 days would be $845 total with shipping. And they're all made-in-america with a 10-year warranty. The dude I talked to actually said "he's the owner and I'm the grower and we're mostly in this to help people, especially patients." I like 'em.
 
mipainpatient

mipainpatient

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regarding inda-gro:
I have sent a number of emails with the owner and am currently saving for one of the proPARs, there are a number of indagro vs HPS/MH grows on youtube, check em out
mpp

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what the propar lacks in blue (for my designs) i will do as sidelighting w/ t5s (coral wave, blue wave, reef wave all bought on clearance booyah)
 
mipainpatient

mipainpatient

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BlueB said:
http://www.lightpros.us.com/products-page/grow-lights/lp-400-400w-lamp/

Looking at the advertisement on ebay from this company, those amazing spectral analysis charts that I posted earlier ARE FROM LED grow lights not these induction lights!

Why are they showing SPD graphs from HPS, MH and LEDs but NOT THEIR OWN PRODUCT? This is for sure confusing.

So, where is the SPD graph for the light that they sell??????????????? This induction light or whatever they are.
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That would explain the blue part in the mostly RED spike output....Red LEDs are phosphored/colored lensed/colored plastic over Blue LEDs but the blue still gets through to a significant degree.
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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I got my FloraSuns and AquaticLife Roseate's. I really like the FloraSuns, Im not impressed with the Roseates. The Roseates dont publish their SPD's online, but proclaim 650nm all over, and the spd on their packaging shows a ripple in the 600-700 range but otherwise is relatively useless. To my eyes, compared to other tubes they appear a plain flat white, they may have some 650nm in them but its likely VERY little/very light. The FloraSuns look just like the AquaMedic PlantGrow's but for $8 a tube you cant go wrong. *** I will say that the way bulbs appear to the eye can vary greatly depending on what bulbs are around them, which I was reminded of when I took no-flash pics.



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Flowering main panel ^^^...(to be supplemented with a 4bulb on either side)... top to bottom= Roseate/CoralWave/RedSun/FloraSun/Roseate/CoralWave/RedSun/FloraSun. Its amazing how different they look on camera, in person the Roseate's appear FLAT WHITE but they appear purplish here. So I wont discount them totally, but wont use them as a primary go-to bulb. Im gonna swap in the PlantGrows and use the Roseate's on the side panels, top most slot (Roseate, RedSun, Actinic, Bloom)

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Veg main panel ^^^... (to be supplemented with a single blue Actinic on the side)... top to bottom= FloraSun, BlueWave, ReefWave, FloraSun. Again they look very different on camera next to other bulbs. compare the bottom bulb from the flowering panel to the top bulb here, same bulb, both FloraSun. they appear more blueish here, they are infact quite pink (other pics show it)


suprisingly the top panel in the pic below vvv is a ReefWave/BlueWave just like the pic above ^^ is a BlueWave/ReefWave, but it has 6500k's on the outer two slots vs my new config using FloraSuns. Im sure it has to do with the camera's reception of different colors in the presence of other colors, I just think its funny how much more blue the ReefWave looks next to the FloraSun when it looks so Violet next to the 6500k's, and again how blue the FloraSuns look next to the other blue bulbs, when they definately appear pink to me.
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Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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A few more pics just to show the different hues given inside each box.

my babies...
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Notice the nice blue glow with a hint of pink?
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This pic above ^^^ shows the pink in the FloraSuns abit more. I like em


The flowering box...12/12 from seedling -about 12days now
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Notice the overal rosy glow, very red but still showing blue


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^^^Roseate,CoralWave,RedSun,FloraSun,Roseate,Coral Wave,Redsun,FloraSun
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Hahaha. Okay. Thanks. I couldn't find a CFL 2700k chart when I searched. The only one I found was that pretty bogus looking one I linked.
 
BlueB

BlueB

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Don't bother checking out that CMH thread. There isn't one bit of information on CMH, it's just a bunch of people ranting back and forth calling each other names. Pointless really. I feel bad for the person who started the thread, they should really consider starting a new one now that one has been ruined not 6 pages into it.
 
BlueB

BlueB

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Undercover Cop said:
A few more pics just to show the different hues given inside each box.

my babies...
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Notice the nice blue glow with a hint of pink?
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This pic above ^^^ shows the pink in the FloraSuns abit more. I like em


The flowering box...12/12 from seedling -about 12days now
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Notice the overal rosy glow, very red but still showing blue


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^^^Roseate,CoralWave,RedSun,FloraSun,Roseate,Coral Wave,Redsun,FloraSun
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You got it goin on bro! The overall color appearance of both your veg and flower mixtures look spot on! Nice work! I might have to copy what you are doing now! Real nice!
 
mipainpatient

mipainpatient

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BlueB said:
Don't bother checking out that CMH thread. There isn't one bit of information on CMH, it's just a bunch of people ranting back and forth calling each other names. Pointless really. I feel bad for the person who started the thread, they should really consider starting a new one now that one has been ruined not 6 pages into it.
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heh i was merely pointing out the cmh spd, sux on the bunk thread
 
BlueB

BlueB

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mipainpatient said:
heh i was merely pointing out the cmh spd, sux on the bunk thread
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Oh ya, sorry, I wasn't knockin you by any means. I tried to make a couple educated and informative posts there and still like 3 pages later no one has responded yet. They are all into arguing over there.
 
BlueB

BlueB

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I've started to incorporate the UVb bulbs into both rooms now. On for 4 hours during the mid part of the light cycle. Got three new strains to work with. All cuttings from a dispensary from the L.A. I believe. I got them from a local friend here in CO. One cut is a blueberry #1, which I can't wait to try growin under the T5 setup. The other 2 cuts are a sour deez cross and some other pure Sativa. They came kinda beat up, so I hope they recover. The blueberry is only 2 inches tall, in the veg cycle, and putting out crazy amounts of trichomes on the leaves. Sure hope they start to grow more.
 
Phaeton

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I built a square out of Hydrofarm T5's with two 400 watt CMH's up top. I must say I liked the way the lower buds filled out. No longer were they popcorn.

They were sucking me into the arguing in the CMH thread, so I quit visiting, there is growing to be done.
 
C.Indica

C.Indica

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Phaeton said:
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I built a square out of Hydrofarm T5's with two 400 watt CMH's up top. I must say I liked the way the lower buds filled out. No longer were they popcorn.

They were sucking me into the arguing in the CMH thread, so I quit visiting, there is growing to be done.
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That's BrickTop for you.
Uncle Ben'll get you too.


I'm going HPS.. Digilux w/ Blue.
Just for a simple onebulb bloom box.
I'll still use T5's for veg / mothers.

I didn't want to CMH + Supplement,
and thisis One bulb to replace.
 
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