Dui checkpoints: How to proceed when the gistapo ask for your paperz

[deprave]

[video=youtube;ILqc0DMh84k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILqc0DMh84k&feature=player_embedded[/video]

This video shows how to handle a "DUI" checkpoint in USA. A good demonstration of how to deal with government terrorist at unconstitutional commie "checkpoints". These "Viper" squad stazi road blocks have been popping up around the country and this is the tactic I used when encountering one.

 

[Fight411]

I would have liked to see how it played out if the camera was hidden,I think the cops would have acted different. Also how's this play out of you are under the influence?

 

[deprave]

I would have liked to see how it played out if the camera was hidden,I think the cops would have acted different. Also how's this play out of you are under the influence?

If you are actually drunk and acting belligerent then this would not protect you. Further it doesn't matter camera or not this is the lawful way to handle it and if the officers reacted differently its on them, without a camera you are likely to be threatened viciously and relentlessly but you should just remain calm and stay within your rights. "Check Points" like this are a major violation of your rights and these officers really have very little to work with compared to a traffic stop but here is a good video on how to handle a traffic stop:

[video=youtube;eDJrQBwJpqk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJrQBwJpqk[/video]

 

[Fight411]

Yea no doubt. I meant more like buzzed or tipsy and still having you Shit together, then them trying some BS probable cause. I think the camera definitely keeps them on their toes and in check.

 

[really comfy slippers]

Nothing protects you from a MA state boy.. Believe that.

 

[spandy]

So who's going to be the first dumbass to try this on a regular stop?

Remember people, this is for check points ONLY, cop lights you up and you pull that and you are going to jail.

Nice though Deprave, and this is a great video because it shows how persistent they will be even when faced with an ultimatum, they will still keep at you for just a few moments longer hoping you'll give up and give them what they want.

 

[ginjawarrior]

what is there to stop them pulling you over once you drove thru check point? if you did a u turn in sight of check point they'll send a car after you

 

[InCognition]

I'm strongly for the constitution, but I don't disagree with DUI checkpoints because driving on a public road is not a right, it's a privilege. No one is making anyone drive on the roads where these roadblocks are conducted, nor is anyone forcing someone to go out and get high/drunk.

Anyone who drives intoxicated is a liability in regards to putting other's lives at risk both on and off the street. Then again anytime you are on a public road, you've decided to risk your life, but that doesn't justify an intoxicated individual jeopardizing the life of everyone else around them, who are all using the same privilege as the intoxicated individual.


I understand that DUI checkpoints can potentiate further loss of freedoms, which would be my only opposition against them. The fact remains that driving on a public road is not a right though, so what freedoms these roadblocks are infringing on, is a grey area at best. They argue these roadblocks constitute a "seizure" under the 4th amendment, and that it violates "probable cause"... I think that's more "blib-blab" than anything.

The way I see it, if you're in a car at night that's probable cause to believe one may be under the influence... there's not much more of an efficient way to obtain probable cause in regards to DUI . Notice how almost all DUI roadblocks are conducted at night? That's because it's the police's most efficient way of addressing the issue. This type of argument can turn into a shit storm when applied to other facets of individual freedoms though, which is why I'm only applying it to this DUI argument.


I think anyone who looks at DUI checkpoints from a viewpoint of "these Nazi's are up to no good", are a little short sighted. These checkpoints should be viewed more along the lines of "these police are arresting fucking DUI morons that kill people all the time, all over this country".

On another note, the DUI fucks who cost me more for my car insurance premiums get financially raped when they commit a DUI. Karma always puts work in .


I do not intend to insult anyone with this, but I often find that people who are against these roadblocks are typically past/present DUI offenders looking for anything they can possibly grasp at to proceed with their irresponsibility and selfishness.

 

[InCognition]

what is there to stop them pulling you over once you drove thru check point? if you did a u turn in sight of check point they'll send a car after you

Nothing because now you've given them probable cause.

 

[spandy]

what is there to stop them pulling you over once you drove thru check point? if you did a u turn in sight of check point they'll send a car after you

What is in there to stop them from just shooting you in the face and then saying you made a furtive move?

 

[spandy]

I'm strongly for the constitution, but I don't disagree with DUI checkpoints

You can't say those two together, it makes you a hypocrit no matter how you slice it. The constitution protects you from unreasonable searches at all times, whether you are driving or not. Yes, driving is in fact a priviledge, but it doesn't mean you have to surrender your constitutional rights while doing so.

Drunk drivers are indeed a liability, but in a free society it has to be a somewhat acceptabed liability to a point in the sense that their are rules you have to follow to bust these assholes that drive around drunk.

Many people who claim to be constitutionalist have no fucking clue what this country would be like if we actually obeyed the constitution. I think it would be a beautiful place because of the full fledge freedom that everyone would enjoy, but it scares those who enjoy having a security blanket wrapped around them by the government, and those people are the same people who support things like DUI check points.

Admit it dude, you have a woobie from uncle sam and you know it.

 

[InCognition]

You can't say those two together dude, it makes you a hypocrit no matter how you slice it. The constitution protects you from unreasonable searches at all times, whether you are driving or not. Yes, driving is in fact a priviledge, but it doesn't mean you have to surrender your constitutional rights while doing so.

You can say them both together if you're looking at it from a realistic, open minded approach. Who's to say you can't? The constitution is a very grand piece of paper with great rules and principles, but to apply an "end-all-be-all" type of mentality to any facet of life, including the constitution, is not the most ideal approach to a solution for a problem. Yes DUI is a problem.

Secondly I don't COMPLETELY agree with checkpoints either because of what you mentioned regarding how beautiful a place this country would be with full-fledge freedom. Yes when you get on the road you are making a conscious decision to risk your life, DUI'ers or not. But, the road is a privilege not a right, so travel at the risk of the government body's rules or don't travel at all.

It's a very grey area, and yes, the most simple solution would be to just follow the constitution. You have to realize though there are too many cowards and wing-bats in today's society for that to be a possibility.

I still think that being entirely against DUI checkpoints is somewhat selfish at the end of the day though. There are many ways this pie can be cut.

 

[spandy]

I think anyone who looks at DUI checkpoints from a viewpoint of "these Nazi's are up to no good", are a little short sighted. These checkpoints should be viewed more along the lines of "these police are arresting fucking DUI morons that kill people all the time, all over this country".

On another note, the DUI fucks who cost me more for my car insurance premiums get financially raped when they commit a DUI. Karma always puts work in .

I do not intend to insult anyone with this, but I often find that people who are against these roadblocks are typically past/present DUI offenders looking for anything they can possibly grasp at to proceed with their irresponsibility and selfishness.

First off, I've never had a DUI in my life, I don't drive around intoxicated like many assholes in this world. Infact, I have a spotless driving record since I started driving other than 1 seat belt ticket when I was 16, been pulled over 3 times in almost 20 years for warnings on a blinker out twice, and once for a license plate light. Even the cop that gave me a ticket at 16 for the seat belt was nice, all just doing their jobs, in fact I had a good conversation with one state cop after he let me know my plate light was out, he was a cool dude for sure.

Anyway, that being said, what I'm pissed about is them trampling on our constitutional rights with these check points, so whether they are nice about it or not, in that situation, they deserve the cold fucking shoulder like what Deprave gave them for being such assholes for accepting a pay check for trying to bend the rules to catch drunk drivers. They are suppose to be protecting the people of this nation, not lining up every tom dick and harry against the wall and shaking them down til they find out who done it.

 

[InCognition]

First off, I've never had a DUI in my life, I don't drive around intoxicated like many assholes in this world. Infact, I have a spotless driving record since I started driving other than 1 seat belt ticket when I was 16, been pulled over 3 times in almost 20 years for warnings on a blinker out twice, and once for a license plate light. Even the cop that gave me a ticket at 16 for the seat belt was nice, all just doing their jobs, in fact I had a good conversation with one state cop after he let me know my plate light was out, he was a cool dude for sure.

Anyway, that being said, what I'm pissed about is them trampling on our constitutional rights with these check points, so whether they are nice about it or not, in that situation, they deserve the cold fucking shoulder like what Deprave gave them for being such assholes for accepting a pay check for trying to bend the rules to catch drunk drivers. They are suppose to be protecting the people of this nation, not lining up every tom dick and harry against the wall and shaking them down til they find out who done it.

Likewise, I'm upset about the trampling of our constitutional rights as well. The easiest way to approach this problem with a solution would be to just follow the constitution. There are too many wing-bats though. The same wing-bats who think it's everyone else's fault when they get hit on the road, because they think they have the right to drive on the same roads the drunks are on.

In all reality though, you have to understand that they actually are protecting the people when they conduct these road blocks. They get a ton of drunks off the streets when they conduct these things. Again, I think it's a little short sighted if one cannot see past this fact, and immediately state that they're doing no good because they're violating the constitution.

The degree in to which they are violating the constitution is petty compared to the human lives that are being saved. You're looking at a couple dozen people having to wait a few minutes or more to make the street that much safer from society's fuckheads. It's not like they are forcing you to pay a fee at the road block, nor are they frisking you, or searching your car. If they were doing that, well then it would be an entirely different story.

 

[UncleBuck]

DUI checkpoints are not a violation of your rights in any way if conducted properly, and there are many ways to conduct them properly.

if someone wants to explain exactly how this violates their rights, feel free to make an attempt. spell it out for me. otherwise, stop with the sand-in-the-vagina routine and comparing public safety measures to hitler's germany, ya hyperbolic bunch of shits.

 

[deprave]

DUI checkpoints are not a violation of your rights in any way if conducted properly, and there are many ways to conduct them properly.

if someone wants to explain exactly how this violates their rights, feel free to make an attempt. spell it out for me. otherwise, stop with the sand-in-the-vagina routine and comparing public safety measures to hitler's germany, ya hyperbolic bunch of shits.

It has been through the court ringer so many times yet still remains illegal in 11 states as a violation of the 4th amendment. Regardless of all that, common sense, innocent people are being harassed by cops.

Now How about you explain how it makes us safer or serves us you commie fascist pig! I smell bacon!

 

[ginjawarrior]

How about you explain how it makes us safer or serves us you commie fascist pig! I smell bacon!

you really need to get past soundbites and poignant images and start looking at realities like drunk drivers in their fat arsed suv's plowing into family sized cars...

shit like this makes you ronulans look really dumb

 

[overgrowem]

Watch Washington State,If MJ.passes in Nov.checkpoints will go through the roof.If they can make U blow in a meter,they can make U give a cheek swab,that with some sort of a tester(already invented I believe} + the 5 whatever it is threshold will mean sure U can smoke in Wash.but U can't drive.Prohabition under another name.

 

[PeyoteReligion]

I'm lucky to live in a state where these were deemed unconstitutional, and they do not execute them. Along with 13 other states if I remember correctly.

 

[UncleBuck]

It has been through the court ringer so many times yet still remains illegal in 11 states as a violation of the 4th amendment. Regardless of all that, common sense, innocent people are being harassed by cops.

Now How about you explain how it makes us safer or serves us you commie fascist pig! I smell bacon!

i asked for an explanation of how this violates your rights and mine, your reply is "people are being harassed and you're a communist police officer!"

you need to be 18 to use this site, deprave. come back in 6 and a half years.