9/11 debunking accomplished

milowerx96

Active Member
I'm not jumping in on either side of the one but I do need to clarify that highly oxidized fire can most definitely melt steel! how do you think we make steel? All steel is, is Iron heated till the molecules are big enough for a carbon atom to be introduced and then cooled.
Remember fire can not melt steel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

maxamus1

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Clinton set up 9/11. It wasn't just about missing chances.... tho he did. It's about the ATTITUDE towards the CIA and FBI.
It's about being able to recognize an enemy. Clinton either didn't want to, or just wasn't up to the task. Either way, Clinton was the true catalyst of 9/11.... no one else.

Bush acted because SOMEONE had to act. That's what the Commander In Chief is there for. Something lost on Clinton, and now Obama.

History will repeat itself. It's being set up now. But you keep looking backwards. That way you won't have to watch the incoming missiles etc.

how am i looking backwards? what do you think i like obama and what he is doing? as far as bush goes he had just as much to with it as the rest of them. he also the reason we are fighting in countries that have nothing to do with 9/11.
 

maxamus1

Well-Known Member
i am a lil confused. obama is killing our security techniques? am i the one going back to 9/10 thinking?
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Yes, Obama and Congress are weakening security and the CIA. It's a political approach which will have real damage later on. Just like 9/11.... same pattern of ineptness.
 

NoDrama

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Has Uncle Sam Strayed? Is He Cheating on Us?[/FONT]
9/11 Wasn't the First and Won't Be the Last
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We make it easy for them. Lying to us is nothing. Our own government is a pack of philandering cheats, phony attacks, lying about wars, never a word of truth we can depend on. No matter what kind of outlandish thing they do, some "commission" covers it up. We don't need any of their blue ribbon commissions, we need a good divorce lawyer.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What happens when the delusional "super patriots" in our government go totally nuts on us as years of odd coincidences is beginning to prove to even the biggest dullards? What happens to keep one of their conspiracies from blowing up in their faces? First, word leaks out. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A few weeks later, anyone who says anything is called a "conspiracy nut." Newspapers can't carry stories once anyone says "conspiracy." What does it cause? Simple. Give a group total power to do anything they want, no matter how brutal, how insane. Make them above the law. Show them that anything can be covered up, that the press will no longer look into anything and that "national security" can be used to classify evidence for decades, even centuries and we have opened the door to barbarism.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Why is there a huge 9/11 conspiracy movement? Another no-brainer. It is no big stretch of the imagination that Bush, Cheney and Rove could get a pack of rogue CIA/Mossad folks to do anything if the end result ended up as the war Bush was put in office to start. We've been between the sheets with these folks for a long time, think about the USS Liberty. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Why are millions willing to believe Obama wasn't born in the US? Simple. If a secret group running our government could rig the Bush elections, blow up the World Trade Center, murder two Kennedy's, fill our streets with drugs and rob the entire planet's financial system, putting a Muslim from Kenya in the White House would be a piece of cake. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Where does this leave us? How does a generation of Americans live when confronted with one inexplicable thing after another, all having the look of being a bit too convenient and happening at just the right time. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Many Americans pick up a newspaper or watch TV and as soon as they hear a rumor about an attack or a story about some threat. As soon as we see a Pentagon fat ass on TV reading about some imaginary bogeyman on his teleprompter, we know what's coming. Its too bad we set up phony terrorist attacks to end wars rather than just start them. We need one right now to get us out of Afghanistan.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Maybe we can arrange one proving that Al Qaeda is in Africa and we can pack up, leave Afghanistan and Iraq and go there instead. The worst part of that, even if there is no enemy for us to fight, as in Iraq, one will show up anyway, just because we are there. Is this always the plan in the first place?[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You can't turn on the TV and head to the cable/satellite channels, A&E, Military History, Discovery and others without being confronted by continual assaults on our traditional view of history, many of the shows carefully outlining how what we have always believed was a convenient lie meant to shut us up. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Between the ghosts and UFOs, shows like the Secret History of WW2, which debunks 75% of the accepted history of mankind's greatest conflict, shows us how far government goes and how little newspapers and historians really know. Somewhere, in basements all over Washington DC, classified documents that would make a mockery of everything we hold true sit and collect dust. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]How does this make us feel? Its like we are all married to people we find really aren't going to a job every day but heading off to a motel somewhere. One day, we follow them and see them coming out with a mysterious stranger. We confront them. They tell us that we made it all up.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Every American who chooses to believe the government when they yell out "conspiracy theory" is like the spouse being lied to. You can keep quiet and pretend to believe, living a marriage more lie than real or you can break up your family, maybe lose you home, your kids, because you can't live a lie.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In some cases, it goes much further, its like we watched the whole thing through the motel window, hell, it is even as bad as if we kept a video tape. The Iraq War, the rigged elections, the anthrax outbreaks, the Sibel Edmonds spying scandal and the financial bailout are just like this. We have it all, videos, stained sheets, the whole thing and seem to be enjoying the humiliation…[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Read more at Veterans Today[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://buchanan.org[/FONT]​
 

CrackerJax

New Member
I do think the plan was to draw Al Queda into Iraq and commit themselves. They did.... and it worked perfectly. Humiliated and decimated.

Yes!!

Now they see the Clinton weakness and blinders are back on. expect more trouble.... lots of it.
 

snail240

Well-Known Member
Obama hires more cops yet cuts founding to protect our boarders and country. But hey at least they have enough cops to write enough bull shit tickets to pay for all this stuff so atleast hes thinking like nixon.
 

maxamus1

Well-Known Member
cj why are you still talking about clinton. he was a joke just like bush and now like obama. he(obama) is just like the rest puppets on strings. yes there will be a lot more trouble coming. if you can't believe that the government had something to do with 9/11, then you don't know how much trouble we're in.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Becasue if you are going to even start to examine 9/11 you have to start with Clinton. IT ALL STARTS WITH CLINTON.

some would say, he pushed those ppl out of those windows himself. It's a close call.
 

maxamus1

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ok i can see that, but i think it goes further back. yes clinton has a lot to do with it though not that many ppl see that. this is just a small piece of what has really been going on. they (government) keep pulling the wool over our eyes. until we open our eyes and pull away the wool they will keep screwing us over.
 

IAm5toned

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this whole thing began 11/29/1947
its very complex....
and the wool has been pulled over our eyes about it, but not in the way you think... our government made promises they could not honor, and had no intention of doing so; which pissed off some people in the region. iran/contra, soviet afghanistan... theres alot of things that led up to to 9/11.
did they deliberatly plan and control what happened? no
did they deliberatly turn there backs on the situation and allow it too get completey out of control- theres no doubt
some would say clinton choose not to hit bin laden when the opportunity was there because he did not want to martyr him
 

maxamus1

Well-Known Member
this whole thing began 11/29/1947
its very complex....
and the wool has been pulled over our eyes about it, but not in the way you think... our government made promises they could not honor, and had no intention of doing so; which pissed off some people in the region. iran/contra, soviet afghanistan... theres alot of things that led up to to 9/11.
did they deliberatly plan and control what happened? no
did they deliberatly turn there backs on the situation and allow it too get completey out of control- theres no doubt
some would say clinton choose not to hit bin laden when the opportunity was there because he did not want to martyr him


witch is just as bad to me. weather they had a hand in it or just turned the other check so to say. it is just as bad to me.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Clinton only had balls for one thing only.... that was his problem.

A president worried about his/her popularity and the polls will always deliver substandard foreign policy. Our President is only the second sitting President to be awarded the Nobel peace prize while in office. The first was Teddy Roosevelt, who REFUSED the prize until his term was over.

Obama accepted his..... nah he's not working on pure EGO is he...

That Nobel weakens his Presidency, but he's too full of himself to see it. That's what happens when you surround yourself with yes men.
 

fdd2blk

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Clinton only had balls for one thing only.... that was his problem.

A president worried about his/her popularity and the polls will always deliver substandard foreign policy. Our President is only the second sitting President to be awarded the Nobel peace prize while in office. The first was Teddy Roosevelt, who REFUSED the prize until his term was over.

Obama accepted his..... nah he's not working on pure EGO is he...

That Nobel weakens his Presidency, but he's too full of himself to see it. That's what happens when you surround yourself with yes men.

yes, i fully agree. :bigjoint:
 
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