Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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"I select a lower branch from one of my veg plants. It's way better to use a stem from the lower branches than from the top. The lower branches contain more of the hormones that it takes to start roots."
While he also takes each set of clones from the vegged clones, of vegged clones, of vegged clones, of vegged clones... instead of maintaining mother plants.
It's well documented that growth hormones which encourage the fastest root development and help prevent genetic drift comes from the upper branches of a plant. Synonymous with why potency is higher as you move from bottom branch buds, to mid branch buds, to those at the very top of the plant. Combined here inlies what I believe is the reason we see so many genetically burnt out strains that growers perpetuate. Often flooding the market with second rate bud that looks and smells good but just lacks second gear. The buzz starts to come on, but never really delivers. I've personally seen it happen over a period of time where repeated crops of what was amazing dank gradually devolves into weak and spent mediocrity. Some strains are more vulnerable to this than others. But the fact is you can only take clones of clones, of clones for so long until genetic drift or worse sets in.
"I select a lower branch from one of my veg plants. It's way better to use a stem from the lower branches than from the top. The lower branches contain more of the hormones that it takes to start roots."
While he also takes each set of clones from the vegged clones, of vegged clones, of vegged clones, of vegged clones... instead of maintaining mother plants.
It's well documented that growth hormones which encourage the fastest root development and help prevent genetic drift comes from the upper branches of a plant. Synonymous with why potency is higher as you move from bottom branch buds, to mid branch buds, to those at the very top of the plant. Combined here inlies what I believe is the reason we see so many genetically burnt out strains that growers perpetuate. Often flooding the market with second rate bud that looks and smells good but just lacks second gear. The buzz starts to come on, but never really delivers. I've personally seen it happen over a period of time where repeated crops of what was amazing dank gradually devolves into weak and spent mediocrity. Some strains are more vulnerable to this than others. But the fact is you can only take clones of clones, of clones for so long until genetic drift or worse sets in.
SFguy
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i have notice that that our re-veg plants seem like they re-set and it started it over to a vigorous new plant, they are stronger than our cutsof/cuts/of cuts/of cuts. just a observation,, aybe letting them go the full cycle resets them??
mindphuk
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I'd be interested in seeing how genetic drift will occur in cuttings considering there is no recombination like there is with meiosis and even asexual reproduction. There have been cuttings of certain rose varieties that have been around hundreds of years with no degradation. I find it difficult to believe that any generational degradation is truly due to drift or any genetic changes whatsoever. Every time I have asked this of people, no one can give a reasonable mechanism for this change in the genome that is claimed.
BambamLFC
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Hey stinkbud! Ive always wondered what if u added another veg system n got bigger plants. im just a little confused with the veg room pic. it shows the original cloner and original veg system, with two full size new rail systems under a 1000w MH. just wondering, since its a perpetual harvest you do. 3 weeks in the cloner, 3 weeks in original veg system, then with the new system theres two of them? do they spend an additional 6 weeks in the veg room or just an additional 3? OR have i mistaken this completely,and you use the 6 best clones from the cloner, skip your original veg system and straight into one of the new rail systems?
sorry if this is confusing lol, its just my outdoor season is almost over. gonna make some quick sales n get my room started up, n i wanna do it properly lol.
chunkylonin
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I was waiting on my taxes to start this ,but because the IRS put in that new security software iam under review,oh well ill get it sooner or later but man am I jonesing to put this thing together and start growing .Also you are a cut above the rest stink.
tyler.durden
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Wow, this is one great thread! I've been reading for a couple of weeks and I'm only at post #2680, still in 2009's posts! Although I do F & D Al B Fuct style, I built a Stinkbud Cloner instead of rooting in rockwool. I'm a lazy stoner and I don't want to water cubes by hand twice a day, so I like to just set the cloner and forget it. When roots form I just chuck the clones into my pots of perlite, neoprene collar and all (I'm not using the net pots). I just purchased this inexpensive cycle timer from Fleabay from a top rated seller, everyone seemed to LOVE these guys so I shelled out the $25 for the 3 pronged version. It works great! I'm sure someone probably already posted the link to these timers, but I thought I'd try to save some folks some money. Thanks, Stink! You are a true revolutionary... http://www.ebay.com/sch/chirocolt45/m.html?hash=item33680bd6e5&item=220788938469&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&_trksid=p4340.l2562
Doesnt Grow
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only problem i see that if ur plants are 12"( or smaller) there is not a lot of room for roots to grow in the gutter ( holes that the plants go in) but other that then man Great Job my friend. im very impressed.
tyler.durden
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Kudos on your first post! I love the name you chose, "Your honor, of course I don't grow marijuana! I mean, look at my avatar's name..."
DarylP
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Remember everyone that Stink does have his own site set up. So check it out www.stinkbuddies.com
superfroto
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I have a question on the flowering system of this set up. How do you squeeze the roots into those small rectangular prisms?
BambamLFC
Member
i have been on there, but its not updated with his new 6 plant system
StinkBud
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http://www.stinkbuddies.com/downloads.htm
It's called the StinkBud Jr. Download the plans here
http://www.stinkbuddies.com/pdfs/StinkBud_Jr.pdf
I have a new Aero/NFT system that will be in my new book. It's just like the old system but uses the 27Gal strongbox and the rails are 50" now. I also put my rail system in veg for 3 weeks now so the plants are a lot bigger. 3-4oz per plant on the rails now.
The StinkBud Single is the first Hybrid Aeroponic/DWC system. I've gone though many revisions and I finally have a good working system that produces huge plants. It's a great option if you want to keep your plant count low. The StinkBud Hybrid will be in my new book also.
Registered on your site Stink. Followed the link to verify me email. Still can't view photos in the forums tho. I scoured the site and found the sb single in PDF format and was able to see that. Can't find the new rail plans tho. Can you post those plans here as well Stink? Thanks so much man!!
StinkBud
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They are actually square PVC fence posts. The roots run down the fence post.
The roots are sprayed with water/nutes for a few minutes and then the water shuts off for a few minutes. All the water drains out and the roots are left setting in air. The roots never completely dry out but with all the oxygen added, the growth rate is amazing!
StinkBud
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Danny Danko at High Times rules!!! He's a great guy and I really like him. It's probably a great place to work! Did you know that you have to take a piss test to work at High Times? The only difference is, at High Times you have to pop positive to get hired!! ha ha
I'll be writing more articles now that my book is done. My next article will be on the new StinkBud Aero/NFT system. As usual there will be plans and instructions included. This is the same system that I have in my book. It's pretty much the same as my SB Jr., just a little bigger with a strongbox res.