trayvan martin

[UncleBuck]

You don't have to commit a crime to warrant being followed by a neighborhood watch person. No law prohibits following someone else.

no law says you can pursue someone else AND claim self defense under "stand your ground" laws.

 

[cliffey501]

zimmerman engaged martin by following him, dum-dum.

and by provoking the incident, loses all protection under stand your ground laws.

go cry now.

I hope i never find myself walking behind a guy like trayvon then.

 

[NoDrama]

zimmerman provoked the situation by admittedly pursuing martin, self defense under the statute in question no longer applies at that point.

So when a police officer follows you for a while before pulling you over, he is provoking you somehow? You sure he isn't just being safe?

 

[NoDrama]

if you provoked the incident by pursuing someone, you have no right to use deadly force AND argue self defense.

wait, was he following? or Pursuing? Pursuit means they would both be running. is that what happened?

 

[londonfog]

So when a police officer follows you for a while before pulling you over, he is provoking you somehow? You sure he isn't just being safe?

You sound real dumb now

 

[Canna Sylvan]

You are absolutely sure of this 100%? It would not be possible for Trayvon to attack Zimmerman first? You know for a fact that Zimmerman walked up to Trayvon and put a bullet in him unprovoked?

You're Libertarian? The Libertarian philosophy is mind your own fucking business. Unless you know a crime is going on. How do you like nosey neighbors watching you? I have this old bag who Tyconstantly watches me every time I leave with my kids. I look like a hippy with my long hair. She looks like some do gooder churchtimes lady. At times I feel like beating the fuck out of her and telling her to leave me alone. I don't like this whole race shit. But at the very least Zimmerman is an annoying do gooder shit head. Even if he never shot the kid, he deserved an ass whooping. Who the fuck calls the police for suspicious people over 50 times in about three months? I hate cops, but as a cop I'd beat him down for being an annoying shit. This is from the pacifist vegan humanist atheist conservationist too. But sometimes dumb shits need a beating to shut them up.

 

[bundee1]

Wow common sense does not apply with no drama. I have to also start questioning your intentions no drama. Unfortunately again this is so clear cut you have to wonder if race isnt clouding your judgment. the facts are the facts the kid did nothing wrong besides being black in the wrong place. When you try,to explain things away with bullshit mincing you deny reality. And you wonder why black people think racism still exists. There seems to be a common thread among a lot of the posts by the same peopke that always refute that racism exists. Makes you wonder...

 

[NoDrama]

You sound real dumb now

I assume you don't get it, that's ok London, you rarely do.

 

[londonfog]

wait, was he following? or Pursuing? Pursuit means they would both be running. is that what happened?

You can be in pursuit of buried treasure. Do tell me how buried treasure can run..Go to bed ..its late and you're making yourself look

 

[UncleBuck]

I hope i never find myself walking behind a guy like trayvon then.

yep, zimmerman was a saint. he wasn't on the line with non-emergency dispatch, pursuing the guy, calling him a fucking coon and making up all sorts of things about him, he was just innocently walking behind him.

thanks for clearing that up.

 

[londonfog]

I assume you don't get it, that's ok London, you rarely do.

For real ...You sound like an idiot trying to debate this...

 

[NoDrama]

Wow common sense does not apply with no drama. I have to also start questioning your intentions no drama. Unfortunately again this is so clear cut you have to wonder if race isnt clouding your judgment. the facts are the facts the kid did nothing wrong besides being black in the wrong place. When you try,to explain things away with bullshit mincing you deny reality. And you wonder why black people think racism still exists. There seems to be a common thread among a lot of the posts by the same peopke that always refute that racism exists. Makes you wonder...

Of course racism exists, one only needs to read a post of yours to figure out it is alive and well.

 

[londonfog]

Wow common sense does not apply with no drama. I have to also start questioning your intentions no drama. Unfortunately again this is so clear cut you have to wonder if race isnt clouding your judgment. the facts are the facts the kid did nothing wrong besides being black in the wrong place. When you try,to explain things away with bullshit mincing you deny reality. And you wonder why black people think racism still exists. There seems to be a common thread among a lot of the posts by the same peopke that always refute that racism exists. Makes you wonder...

Thats why I say..."what you say is very telling"

 

[UncleBuck]

So when a police officer follows you for a while before pulling you over, he is provoking you somehow? You sure he isn't just being safe?

zimmerman was not a cop, and the incident in question happened because zimmerman provoked it. zimmerman himself admitted doing so.

wait, was he following? or Pursuing? Pursuit means they would both be running. is that what happened?

pursuing does not necessarily mean running, genius.

i'd love to hear your argument as to why this is self defense rather than dealing with your infinite dipshitness.

 

[cliffey501]

You're Libertarian? The Libertarian philosophy is mind your own fucking business. Unless you know a crime is going on. How do you like nosey neighbors watching you? I have this old bag who Tyconstantly watches me every time I leave with my kids. I look like a hippy with my long hair. She looks like some do gooder churchtimes lady. At times I feel like beating the fuck out of her and telling her to leave me alone. I don't like this whole race shit. But at the very least Zimmerman is an annoying do gooder shit head. Even if he never shot the kid, he deserved an ass whooping. Who the fuck calls the police for suspicious people over 50 times in about three months? I hate cops, but as a cop I'd beat him down for being an annoying shit. This is from the pacifist vegan humanist atheist conservationist too. But sometimes dumb shits need a beating to shut them up.

More misinformation.

Update 5:20 p.m. We've just learned from the Sanford Police that there is evidently a typo on the first page of the neighborhood watch calls report they provided. The date range of Zimmerman's calls, they say, evidently is 2001-2012, not 2011-2012, which means his 46 calls came over a 10- to 11-year period -- roughly four calls per year -- and not four calls per month as the initial police statistics revealed. That certainly changes my early analysis on that issue -- but only slightly. The defense would say that 4 calls a year to dispatch is reasonable. Prosecutors would say that 46 calls is still an awful lot and that making all those calls year in and year out might have heightened Zimmerman's frustration/obsession with people he deemed "suspicious."

 

[dbkick]

I hope i never find myself walking behind a guy like trayvon then.

you may if you're some dumbass wannabe cop on neighborhood watch.

 

[NoDrama]

You can be in pursuit of buried treasure. Do tell me how buried treasure can run..Go to bed ..its late and you're making yourself look

I take it you flunked grammar?

 

[UncleBuck]

Of course racism exists, one only needs to read a post of yours to figure out it is alive and well.

i love it, classic tactic.

"if you recognize that racism exists, that makes you a racist"

nodrama logic.

 

[NoDrama]

zimmerman was not a cop, and the incident in question happened because zimmerman provoked it. zimmerman himself admitted doing so.



pursuing does not necessarily mean running, genius.

i'd love to hear your argument as to why this is self defense rather than dealing with your infinite dipshitness.

So you don't really have anything to back you up and have to resort to name calling too, eh? Seems to be the modus operandi lately with so many of you.

I follow you, you don't like it and turn around and blow me away with a gun, who is to blame?

 

[UncleBuck]

More misinformation.

Update 5:20 p.m. We've just learned from the Sanford Police that there is evidently a typo on the first page of the neighborhood watch calls report they provided. The date range of Zimmerman's calls, they say, evidently is 2001-2012, not 2011-2012, which means his 46 calls came over a 10- to 11-year period -- roughly four calls per year -- and not four calls per month as the initial police statistics revealed. That certainly changes my early analysis on that issue -- but only slightly. The defense would say that 4 calls a year to dispatch is reasonable. Prosecutors would say that 46 calls is still an awful lot and that making all those calls year in and year out might have heightened Zimmerman's frustration/obsession with people he deemed "suspicious."

ah, that makes this a clear cut case of self defense then.

thank you so much for the update! this zimmerman guy is a real saint!