trayvan martin

[Corso312]

this changes little imo...and i promise you i have been in many more fights then you captain...6 foot 3 150 lbs is a skinny dude..i would snap that kids neck like a bread stick or his arm or anything else i grabbed if i was zimmerman before i shot him...but then again i would not have been following him or carrying a handgun....just because the bus driver did not whip this kids ass does not mean he wasn't capable ..it means he probably did not want to lose his job and hurt the kid....sounds like ol jorge will be charged very soon and that is good news.

 

[NLXSK1]

Interesting...

• itness statements and a doctor's report corroborated his injuries, Lee said. A police report said he had a bloody nose and a grass-stained shirt.
  
  
  
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According to UB, the doctor, witnesses, cops and Zimmerman are all in on it together...

PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN!!!

 

[Corso312]

i don't understand...so what if jorge had a bloody nose?....or grass on is t shirt..that does not mean he can shoot someone dead.... by this thinking then anyone can start a fight get slapped or punched i the face and pull out a handgun and kill the man they strted a fight with..because bloody nose plus grass stain clothes = grounds for murder

 

[jesus of Cannabis]

i don't understand...so what if jorge had a bloody nose?....or grass on is t shirt..that does not mean he can shoot someone dead....

you obviously dont know what you are talking about, because in Florida thats enough for self defense to the fullest measure even extreme force.

Stop holding the banner for a punk that probably acting like a punk and got caught by a trigger happy POS.

Kids die everyday in the country, why is this kid being made a martyr?

 

[RoninAmok]

Are you a complete retard? Oh wait....

The police report said that Zimmerman had a broken nose and lacerations on his scalp. I guess the cops fabricated that too!!

Or.... MAYBE!!! Travan broke Zimmerman's nose and smashed his head into the sidewalk like Zimmerman said and the police report confirms.

And he probably told his friend what happened... *shocker*

Golly " smashed Skull" and Zimmerman never even went to the hospital for it. Most folks with a " smashed skull " are in a hospital bed.

NOW do you wish to dispense with bullshit hyperbole and post an A C C U R A T E account of the mans injuries instead of your bullshit PERSONAL inflation of them to serve your own ends , that's just flat out dishonest on your part.

 

[NLXSK1]

Quit sidestepping and flopping around , your whole bullshit stance is based on Zimmerman being a Saint and the Kid being a " Hood" and you frigging well know it you prevaricating little puke.

Nope... My position is that we need to hear all the evidence before lynching Zimmerman.

You dont have to participate in this mud wrestling event yet you just cant get yourself to leave... LOL!

 

[Hemlock]

i don't understand...so what if jorge had a bloody nose?....or grass on is t shirt..that does not mean he can shoot someone dead.... by this thinking then anyone can start a fight get slapped or punched i the face and pull out a handgun and kill the man they strted a fight with..because bloody nose plus grass stain clothes = grounds for murder

Florida is a right to defend State

 

[Corso312]

judas of cannabis i don't believe i have ever agreed with any of your posts ...from the time i saw you say that growing without a card should land you in jail i have pretty much just written you off as a moron....i am holding no banner or making anyone a martyr ....the only part i agree with is the trigger happy pos comment...i have no idea if the kid was a punk or not and neither do you...i do know he was doing nothing illegal and walking home from a store with candy/tea that he paid for not stole..he was wearing a hooded sweatshirt ..i own 4 or 5 myself...am i a punk when i wear them? or a thug?... no ..it is just clothes and did the kid take some dumb pictures and say dumb things? yes all kids do ..what if they had twitter and facebook and camera phones when you were a kid?...you think you may have said some things that looking back was dumb and immature?

 

[RoninAmok]

How many respectable black people refer to themselves as similar to the above? And how many discuss beating a bus driver for the lulz online? You can try sanctify the guy all you want, I just put forward the theory that Trayvon possibly started the fight/swung the first dig.

Guess I'm just a racist tho.

Guess what , if *I* am " walking in the rain" and some clown comes up and starts with " what are you doing here" (which is none of his damn business in the first place ) and then decides he's gonna try to run his " authority " on me then he's *real* likely to get his ass kicked , and if he runs up on me with a weapon showing he's probably going to get his ass *shot* ( with a *legally carried weapon) and we'll sort it all out later..


And shitcan the " respectable black people " crap , because it's yet another meaningless sidestep as regards this issue , just like the goddamned " hoodie" bullshit..............I mean really ENOUGH unless everyone of you utilising as a talking point are gonna run right out and adhere to some bullshit societal " dress code"..................we gonna start judgeing folks guilt ( as a victim YET) based solely on the criteria of DRESS?

 

[NLXSK1]

• we gonna start judgeing folks guilt ( as a victim YET) based solely on the criteria of DRESS?​

  
  
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No, we are going to judge folks guilty if they punch someone in the nose, knocking them down and proceed to beat their head into the pavement.


He didnt get shot because he was wearing a hoodie, he didnt get shot because he had skittles and an AZ iced tea. HE GOT SHOT BECAUSE HE WAS ASSAULTING SOMEONE!!!

 

[RoninAmok]

You think a cop needs proof of his observations?

I am pretty sure the reports were corroborated.

I bet you that Travan actually had a case of skittles but the cops took most of the goods for themselves... Those bastards...

And you of course ( since they were " corroborated" and you're "pretty sure") will be able to bring all this to the table and show us this ...right?

And you DAMN STRAIGHT an LEO needs " proof of his observations" , if there is none then said " observations" are pretty much USELESS in a court of law.

 

[RoninAmok]

Can you not see the correlation between his "feats" and perhaps the way he acts in real life? You think a guy that beats on his drivers is gonna be all "please and thank you"?

Youre an idiot Buck, youre the racist, you feel Black people need your "special protection" and undying support regardless of the facts.

So you don't think given his background that he could've started the fight? No possibility? If that's the case you're the dumb hack, retard.

Uh HUH , perhaps you need to give equal time to the woman beating bitch known as Zimmerman then.......



What was that you were saying about " background" again? Huh?

 

[RoninAmok]

Who started the fight doesn't matter. Hell Zimmerman couldv'e started the fight too. Someone died dumbass, like i said before. Why zimmy have to pull the pistol. cant take an ass whoopin?

EXACTLY , he played his authoritarian BadassWannaBeCop game on someone and it backfired , and when he was getting his ass whipped he pussed out and shot the kid.

And it STILL comes back to " no follow and observe standard protocols " ( here all the bullshit about how Z had a right will come again) and there would have been no incident.

 

[RoninAmok]

Oh I totally agree, and noone gets shot over here...I wonder why?

Im not saying Martin is responsible, nor do I condone Zimmermans actions, just trying to piece together a realistic version of what happened, excuse me for digging up some background on the men before speculating, it's more research than most of the opinionated people have done.

Because so many Irish are too bloody BogStupid to operate a firearm , or too drunk on the crap that passes for Whisky ( we all know where REAL Whiskys come from......look towards Skye first and then to The Highlands)........and YOU aren't digging up anything on either one of them , ALL that info was out there already , you're just reiterating it.

 

[RoninAmok]

i think zimmerman had no business following and shooting him-
it may have been, in that moment it happened "self defense" and i 0 support self defense, but not when you create the situation- he had no business following him or harassing him or trying to confront or detain or question him, so if in doing so he put himself in a situation where he was assaulted, that assault was a result of his own action- this guy may have felt he needed to defend himself from zimmerman- and if he felt that way his instincts were apparently right

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t r u t h !!!!!

 

[RoninAmok]

Difficult to convict because of the Stand Your Ground law. And we're back to square one.

A law the public was not asking for. There was no issue with the current law. The NRA lobbied for it and got what they wanted. The lobbyist is even pictured next to the governor when the bill was signed into law. So proud. It was a corporate scheme to sell more guns.

And an illustration of just ***exactly WHO*** the NRA serves and just how freaking useless they are to the average firearms owner.

 

[RoninAmok]

I don't know if you have seen the thread, but for future reference this is the official new like feature, when you "like" a post you just post this picture.


BTW Uncle Buck- thanks for considering my post

Hows about NO. If I like what you post I'll say so but I'm not promoting Sieg Paul and his potential Fascist , faux Libertarian Fraud. Not for you or anybody else , and don't even bother argueing with me about it , go check the Paul threads and find out where I'm originally from.

If you want to follow that particular Pied Piper down the Path of Facism and off the cliff with the rest of the Paulista Lemmings go ahead , but don't evn attempt to tell me that I gotta use a picture of the clown for a " like".

 

[RoninAmok]

and anywhere 51% black aint ghetto unless it's latino's. My hood is 100%black only white u find is some coke.

In additon this punk has never seen certain other places it seems , be kinda funny to dump his out in say ...White Fence territory , maybe up in Boyle Heights , Echo Park area.....hell over in 18th territory.............I mean those can't be ghettoes by his standard now can they?

 

[RoninAmok]

Thats not what im saying at all.Im from a small town I've never been to a "ghetto" in my life.What Im saying is if you walk past drug dealers,pimps,witness murders, and whatever else and don't do anything then who's to blame? Is the system failing you? If your not a part of the solution your a part of the problem.

So you've " never been in a ghetto" but you'll yap all about it as if you were some sort of designated " expert" and we're supposed to accept your bullshit as Gospel Truth.

Never even been THROUGH a Ghetto and you gonna yap nonsensically about " The Solution"..............all the rest of y'all think about those words for a moment , think about the sort of folks who were calling for a " solution" once and how all that got outa hand.

 

[RoninAmok]

This ,I don't doubt but it would also lead to tons of arrests.Murders would start to fade.Crime rates would drop.People could feel safe again.Change isn't always easy.

Thanks for yet further evidence of your bigotry and racism. Keep digging , you're close to oil by now.