LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

polyarcturus

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You may want to look into it more, but you may have the elusive "male-hermie" given the order of sex appearance. Supposedly they are badass for breeding. Though I'm not a breeder yet, so look around to be sure.
this is what im hoping for becasue this motherfucker has been my 2nd favorite male thus far. (first place was a skunk and 3rd a NL )
 

jsamuel24

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Last I checked, didn't the Cali supreme court overturn SB420? I thought limits were based on medical need now. Also, that 99 plant scrip is a scam. Unless his doctor plans on taking the stand and explaining why he needs 99 plants for his bad back (In a medically convincing way.), he just paid for something that gives him a false sense of security.
Here is what I found about it KP

In 2006, San Diego County was sued for refusing to implement an ID card system as required under SB 420. In response, San Diego County filed a lawsuit against the State of California to overturn Prop. 215 and SB 420. San Diego Superior Court Judge, William R. Nevitt Jr. struck down San Diego's claim in the court's December 6, 2006 ruling. San Diego County filed an appeal in the case. The appeal was on August 1, 2008, and was thrown out again on the basis that the counties did not have the authority to make a case against the state. The counties do, however, have the right to make an appeal about the statutes in SB 420 that deal with the issuing of identification cards, as this task is placed upon the counties and affects their taxes. San Diego County along with San Bernardino County appealed to the United States Supreme Court. On May 18, 2009 that appeal was denied.[SUP][8][/SUP]

In SB420 it made it to where all counties have to follow 215 with the 6 Mature, 12 Inmature rules, and 8oz possession. SB420 allows counties to raise that limit not lower it. So it is county per county and your Dr has to prescribe it as 99 plants. If not it is 6/12/8 or whatever your counties limit is, which in humbolt and del norte its prolly 99 but i dont live there so i am not sure.
 

jsamuel24

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when i travel out west i let you guy know the locations in arizona and grand canyon if your willing to drive, i might be up in Washington too.

Too far for me to drive or I would. Thanks though brother. heh, its funny that I want strains from out of CA when I am an hour from the bay area, hour and a half from medocino, 10 mins from placer and 5 hours from humboldt, but I think mixing some stuff from out of state would be good with some of our instate stuffs.
 

kpmarine

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Here is what I found about it KP

In 2006, San Diego County was sued for refusing to implement an ID card system as required under SB 420. In response, San Diego County filed a lawsuit against the State of California to overturn Prop. 215 and SB 420. San Diego Superior Court Judge, William R. Nevitt Jr. struck down San Diego's claim in the court's December 6, 2006 ruling. San Diego County filed an appeal in the case. The appeal was on August 1, 2008, and was thrown out again on the basis that the counties did not have the authority to make a case against the state. The counties do, however, have the right to make an appeal about the statutes in SB 420 that deal with the issuing of identification cards, as this task is placed upon the counties and affects their taxes. San Diego County along with San Bernardino County appealed to the United States Supreme Court. On May 18, 2009 that appeal was denied.[SUP][8][/SUP]

In SB420 it made it to where all counties have to follow 215 with the 6 Mature, 12 Inmature rules, and 8oz possession. SB420 allows counties to raise that limit not lower it. So it is county per county and your Dr has to prescribe it as 99 plants. If not it is 6/12/8 or whatever your counties limit is, which in humbolt and del norte its prolly 99 but i dont live there so i am not sure.
This is what I found a while back on the NORML website for CA. http://www.canorml.org/news/kellyruling.html
 

polyarcturus

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i dont know if i was in calli i would be easier to take bigger chances as they already allow it... plus who comes over anyway? i dont think i let anyone into my house cuz ii grow
 

kpmarine

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It's unconstitutional to charge you for violating it, however, they can still use it as a "guideline" when establishing reasonable amounts. So there is no plant limit, but there is. That's why your buddy's 99 plant card is iffy. He technically can grow it, but if they ever called medical need into question, he would need the doctor who signed that card to explain why he needs almost 5 times the established norm. in most counties. It's still illegal federally though, so you could go to jail at any time. Grow what you feel safe with, and keep your head down, that's really the only rule right now in CA from what I've seen.
 

jsamuel24

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i dont know if i was in calli i would be easier to take bigger chances as they already allow it... plus who comes over anyway? i dont think i let anyone into my house cuz ii grow
Yeah I have thought about taking the chance, but it wouldnt be till I build the grow box/room I am thinking about sometime next year if I do push it. Maybe I will get lucky and it will get clarified sometime this year lol.
 

kpmarine

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i dont know if i was in calli i would be easier to take bigger chances as they already allow it... plus who comes over anyway? i dont think i let anyone into my house cuz ii grow
Up in the far norh of cali, it seems to be pretty much accepted. My neighbor is encouraged to shoot rippers with his paintball gun when they come into his backyard. Makes it easier for the local PD to pinch them for trespassing when they're covered in neon paint.
 

polyarcturus

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quite being scared trust me, the laws where im at are pretty lenient if i get caught with up to 300grams cultivating its still a misdemeanor. up to 2000 grams 5th degree felony.. both of those sentences aren't very long IMO. if i chose to do this i have to be willing to deal with the consequences, plus this just make you a martyr for the cause i know no one wants to get caught but it happens all you can do is do your best to remain low key.
 

jsamuel24

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It's unconstitutional to charge you for violating it, however, they can still use it as a "guideline" when establishing reasonable amounts. So there is no plant limit, but there is. That's why your buddy's 99 plant card is iffy. He technically can grow it, but if they ever called medical need into question, he would need the doctor who signed that card to explain why he needs almost 5 times the established norm. in most counties. It's still illegal federally though, so you could go to jail at any time. Grow what you feel safe with, and keep your head down, that's really the only rule right now in CA from what I've seen.
What I would really like is 24 plants in flower, 24 in veg and 2-3 mothers. So 50-51 so I could harvest 3 plants every 1-3 weeks. But until I can build my room/box that I want I dont see that happening without converting my Garage to a complete grow op.
 

polyarcturus

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Up in the far norh of cali, it seems to be pretty much accepted. My neighbor is encouraged to shoot rippers with his paintball gun when they come into his backyard. Makes it easier for the local PD to pinch them for trespassing when they're covered in neon paint.
now that is the best idea i have herad for ripper although i would have my gun hooked to an air compressor and freeze half the paintballs
 

polyarcturus

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What I would really like is 24 plants in flower, 24 in veg and 2-3 mothers. So 50-51 so I could harvest 3 plants every 1-3 weeks. But until I can build my room/box that I want I dont see that happening without converting my Garage to a complete grow op.

thats exactly what i do in 2 2x4 spaces. 21 plants in flower, up to 6 mothers and 30-40 clones, then a male or 2 in the container.
 

jsamuel24

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quite being scared trust me, the laws where im at are pretty lenient if i get caught with up to 300grams cultivating its still a misdemeanor. up to 2000 grams 5th degree felony.. both of those sentences aren't very long IMO. if i chose to do this i have to be willing to deal with the consequences, plus this just make you a martyr for the cause i know no one wants to get caught but it happens all you can do is do your best to remain low key.
We also have tons of DoJ in our county right now. Atmoshphere is really bad in this county atm so I dont know that the risk is greater then the reward at the moment. Especially since I have no intention of ever making money on what I grow. I dont want to sell to the dispensaries here in this county cause of what too many of them have been doing, and I gave up selling on the streets when I was in my early 20's heh.
 

polyarcturus

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total area it takes up is about 5x7x8. a whole room basically but i could do it smaller if i didnt run co2 plus i could really stack my 2 2x4 grow rooms and make it really condensed
 

polyarcturus

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DOJ? but no i mean i feel it i just dont worry about these # laws too much as if you caught you get caught a couple plants over 100 when your only supplying yourself and they have no evidence otherwise then i wouldn't worry thats all im saying.
 

jsamuel24

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DOJ? but no i mean i feel it i just dont worry about these # laws too much as if you caught you get caught a couple plants over 100 when your only supplying yourself and they have no evidence otherwise then i wouldn't worry thats all im saying.
Yeah I know what you mean and I agree. When I have the money to build I am sure that my desire to work with genitics will get the best of me and I will worry far less about numbers. I dont know why, but every day I get more and more interested in making my own strains, and I know that the SB420 limits will not help me one little bit in that regard lol.
 

kpmarine

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now that is the best idea i have herad for ripper although i would have my gun hooked to an air compressor and freeze half the paintballs
Yeah, except cali is gay. You'd probably get arrested for some form of assault. This is the state of shit gun laws and frivolous lawsuits. If it weren't for the weed laws here, I'd move to Wisconsin. haha
 
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