Mycorrihza Myth
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Myco's propagation is suspect without a host plant. If you're set on using a Myco product...and you're taking the other factors (discussed above) into account...I would recommend applying it directly to the roots during transplant. Depending on your methods/techniques, it might be a good idea to focus more on Trichoderma and Bacteria for indoor gardens...(one of) Myco's roles is to help plants strive in media with low levels of Phosphorus...which isn't the case if you're feeding your plant on a regular basis. Mycos for sure have their place in horticulture, but it's one or the other IMO...Trich/Bacteria if you're feeding on a regular basis...Myco/Bacteria if they're going outside or into a second garden that won't get as much attention or heavy feedings.
Buddy Hemphill
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Cap's bennies kick ass pitbull style...
I copied and pasted...
NUTE PACK:
The Nute pack is an ideal way to boost your plants ability to do what it does best: grow and flower. With the proper application, you will see a noticeable difference in growth, yield and overall vigor.
-Nitrogen fixers, which convert nitrogen gas in to usable nitrate. Nitrogen fixers also will increase plant growth as they produce vitamins, auxins, and gibberllins. Nitrogen fixers give a boost to seedlings germination and overall yield.
-Phosphate solubilizers, which will dissolve fixed tricalcium phosphate in to the usable form monocalcium phosphate. These little guys also produce organic acids (citric acid, lactic acid), hormones, and enzymes which will help in nutrient uptake and general plant vigor.
-Potash mobilizers,that will seek out Potash near the root zone and bring it to the roots of the plant. It is great for low K soil, or coco, since coco is known to "hold" K.
-Mycorrhizae. This product has 100 spore colonies per gram of each of the following endo mycorrhizae:
-Glomus intraradices
-Glomis mosseae
-Glomis aggregatum
-Glomus clarum
ROOT PACK:
The root pack is a proprietary blend of over 20 different different species of beneficial fungi and bacteria. Each one in the concentration of 5 billion organisms per gram. The root pack is designed to promote plant health by boosting immune systems, shoot and root growth, flower production, and the overall well being of your plants! The root pack includes (but is certainly not limited to) the following species:
-Pseudomonas flourescens: This is a saprophyte that creates colonies in water, soil, and on plant tissue. It will suppress plant diseases by acting as a systemic (a unique ability). Once it enters the vascular system of the plant, it actually produces antibiotics which prevent fungal and bacterial diseases from taking hold.
-Bacillus: Bacillus is best applied to young plants and seedlings, so that it can take hold and colonize on the developing root system. Here, it will offer protection by limiting the growth of fungal organisms like fusarium.
This bacteria alsosupresses other fungi and bacteria that cause scab, powdery mildew, sour rot, downy mildew, and early leaf spot, early blight, late blight, bacterial spot, and walnut blight diseases.
-Trichoderma: Trichoderma is a beneficial fungus, that will seek and destroy other harmful fungi in the soil/media. The presence of trichoderma will also cause the plant to activate its own SAR (stimulated auto response), which in turn causes the plant to boost its own immune system.
FOLIAR PACK:
The foliar pack is designed as a 100% safe, non chemical spray for insect control that can also be used as a drench for soil borne insects. The foliar pack includes but is not limited to:
-Bacillus: for the destruction of caterpillars and fungus gnat larvae.
-Beauveria: will control a number of pests such as termites, thrips, whiteflies, aphids, and beetles.
-Metarhizium: will infect spittle bugs and weevils, and thrips.
-Verticillium: will infect and kill aphids, whiteflies, rust fungi, and scale.
-Paecilomyces: will effectively eradicate many pests, including several species of spider mites.
85 bucks a kilo. Can NOT go wrong.
I copied and pasted...
NUTE PACK:
The Nute pack is an ideal way to boost your plants ability to do what it does best: grow and flower. With the proper application, you will see a noticeable difference in growth, yield and overall vigor.
-Nitrogen fixers, which convert nitrogen gas in to usable nitrate. Nitrogen fixers also will increase plant growth as they produce vitamins, auxins, and gibberllins. Nitrogen fixers give a boost to seedlings germination and overall yield.
-Phosphate solubilizers, which will dissolve fixed tricalcium phosphate in to the usable form monocalcium phosphate. These little guys also produce organic acids (citric acid, lactic acid), hormones, and enzymes which will help in nutrient uptake and general plant vigor.
-Potash mobilizers,that will seek out Potash near the root zone and bring it to the roots of the plant. It is great for low K soil, or coco, since coco is known to "hold" K.
-Mycorrhizae. This product has 100 spore colonies per gram of each of the following endo mycorrhizae:
-Glomus intraradices
-Glomis mosseae
-Glomis aggregatum
-Glomus clarum
ROOT PACK:
The root pack is a proprietary blend of over 20 different different species of beneficial fungi and bacteria. Each one in the concentration of 5 billion organisms per gram. The root pack is designed to promote plant health by boosting immune systems, shoot and root growth, flower production, and the overall well being of your plants! The root pack includes (but is certainly not limited to) the following species:
-Pseudomonas flourescens: This is a saprophyte that creates colonies in water, soil, and on plant tissue. It will suppress plant diseases by acting as a systemic (a unique ability). Once it enters the vascular system of the plant, it actually produces antibiotics which prevent fungal and bacterial diseases from taking hold.
-Bacillus: Bacillus is best applied to young plants and seedlings, so that it can take hold and colonize on the developing root system. Here, it will offer protection by limiting the growth of fungal organisms like fusarium.
This bacteria alsosupresses other fungi and bacteria that cause scab, powdery mildew, sour rot, downy mildew, and early leaf spot, early blight, late blight, bacterial spot, and walnut blight diseases.
-Trichoderma: Trichoderma is a beneficial fungus, that will seek and destroy other harmful fungi in the soil/media. The presence of trichoderma will also cause the plant to activate its own SAR (stimulated auto response), which in turn causes the plant to boost its own immune system.
FOLIAR PACK:
The foliar pack is designed as a 100% safe, non chemical spray for insect control that can also be used as a drench for soil borne insects. The foliar pack includes but is not limited to:
-Bacillus: for the destruction of caterpillars and fungus gnat larvae.
-Beauveria: will control a number of pests such as termites, thrips, whiteflies, aphids, and beetles.
-Metarhizium: will infect spittle bugs and weevils, and thrips.
-Verticillium: will infect and kill aphids, whiteflies, rust fungi, and scale.
-Paecilomyces: will effectively eradicate many pests, including several species of spider mites.
85 bucks a kilo. Can NOT go wrong.
InfidelUniversity
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Thats some crazy looking shit, probably just bioslime..................................... Don't add Myco to teas, they wil not breed or do anything in there, they need close contact with roots to come out of dormancy.... USE during seeding, transplanting, planting or injection into root zone.
InfidelUniversity
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Thats strange....check this out http://www.ebay.com/itm/farm-only-/230699232279
NUTE PACK:
The Nute pack is an ideal way to boost your plants ability to do what it does best: grow and flower. With the proper application, you will see a noticeable difference in growth, yield and overall vigor.
Nitrogen fixers made up of Azospirillum and Rhizobium, which convert nitrogen gas in to usable nitrate. Nitrogen fixers also will increase plant growth as they produce vitamins, auxins, and gibberllins. Nitrogen fixers give a boost to seedlings germination and overall yield.
Phosphate solubilizers made up of Bacillus megaterium and Pseudomonas striata, which will dissolve fixed tricalcium phosphate in to the usable form monocalcium phosphate. These little guys also produce organic acids (citric acid, lactic acid), hormones, and enzymes which will help in nutrient uptake and general plant vigor.
Frateuria aurentia, a Potash mobilizer, is a beneficial bacteria that will seek out Potash near the root zone and bring it to the roots of the plant. It is great for low K soil, or coco, since coco is known to "hold" K.
Mycorrize. This product has 50 spore colonies per gram of each of the following endo mycorrhizae:
-Glomus intraradices
-Glomis mosseae
-Glomis aggregatum
-Glomus clarum
Rising Moon
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Yeah, thats what I was thinking. The slime was kind of cool too though...had a nice smell, and interesting growth patterns, reminded me of brewing Kombutcha tea.
InfidelUniversity
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I'm only a fan of buying Myco type pruducts. Compost and teas have a much larger and diverse population of microbes, you can make it at home and it's cheap, and you will get your protazoas and nematodes to boot.....
InfidelUniversity
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With all the great shit we give our plants I don't think Myco play such a role in these good condition especialy with high nutes and phosphates....They seem to come into play in field conditions and low nutrient mediums.......Could I get the spore count for endos on ur great white container?
InfidelUniversity
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Word brother, happy 420............... I love dabbing, concentrates are the best way to go IMHO....
Man the Hmong farmers around here make fat cash off all the food they grow. I love watching their fields. Some old lady says she makes about 100k a year off a couple acres of lemongrass..They grow weed by the acres also out here, crazy fucks..lol...
Buddy Hemphill
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InfidelUniversity
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Yup, thats what it's looking like............. Those might work best with Cannabis
The spore count in the link i found....................I see three products, which one being sold in this link? http://www.ebay.com/itm/farm-only-/230699232279
InfidelUniversity
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Well they did help all of the life forms on this plant exist......including man.
But yes, watch out for all the hype...I see WAY WAY more in Hydro tho.
Rrog
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One thing to bear in mind is that all these bacterial and fungal spores are floating around and once inoculated there isn't a need to re-inoculate. The longer the soil stays undisturbed, the more optimal and efficient the microherd becomes. The Cannabis will mold the soil's eventual microlife the way it wants if we let it.
Again, this is the huge advantage of tossing away bottled ferts, amending with simple compost, EWC, ACT, etc. Cut the plant at the base and immediately insert your seed or clone. The bacterial network is optimal and will swarm the new roots while devouring the old plants roots. Soil improves over successive generations.
And it really is dirt cheap over time.
Again, this is the huge advantage of tossing away bottled ferts, amending with simple compost, EWC, ACT, etc. Cut the plant at the base and immediately insert your seed or clone. The bacterial network is optimal and will swarm the new roots while devouring the old plants roots. Soil improves over successive generations.
And it really is dirt cheap over time.
Rrog
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I feed my dog a raw diet. Full of natural background microlife.
I make Yogurt, Buttermilk (a bacterial culture), Kefir, and fermented vegetables. All products of bacterial interaction.
We've had beneficial bacteria around us for billions of years. It's only very recently that we started sterilizing everything and calling these beneficial microorganisms "germs." Monsanto-1 People-0
ECHydroceuticals
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Nice...I have a few Myco/Trichoderma PDFs you'd probably be interested in...I'll dig them up this weekend...thanks for the info
Buddy Hemphill
Active Member
What are you confused about? Spore count?
There are 3 products: Nute, Root, and Foliar.
They cost 85 bucks a kilo each.
So a kilo of each one would cost 255 bucks.
The spore count is off the chart...thats my point. This is the best bang for the buck out there, as far as bennies go.