The LED Plunge- What's ideal!?!
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*BUDS
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One Q, why do all the pros and about 95% of growers on here use HID lighting? Maybe they havn't discovered these great LEDs.
If you want to put food on the table pay for car, mortgage etc then LEDs wont do the job. If you want to try out LEDs to see for yourself and treat growing only as a hobby then thats fine bro but people on here although they can seem like smartasses dont want to see you waste $250 on an inferior product.
PetFlora
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LEDs have come a long way within the DIY community. Commercially, most are well behind the curve. Lumibar and eShine (Aqua Washers) have a new lights that look promising, and there's a Chinese company that will custom make a light if you know what you want. Looks like good quality
HiloReign
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This is the first thing he had to say to me right after the post where I made my purchase. Now if I pranced on down to an HID subforum where the title clearly states the OP is investing in HID and said "Don't waste your money, LED grows frostier more quality buds than HID. HID's are a joke." How exactly do you think people would respond?
I know not why you decide to defend him and I don't know where you found my comments about LED being better than HID? Or me discrediting HID at all?
Not to mention I didn't even pay $250 for the unit and shipping together.
Thanks for stopping by? Lol
puffenuff
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Having grown with both hps and led, I can tell you that I prefer led. Many people use the same argument as you just did, if leds work then why don't more people use them in large grows. The reason is because they are scared. They've heard leds don't produce the same, or they've tried old inferior leds and were dissapointed. Add that to an expensive start up cost and you can see why successful hid growers are hesitant. For anyone looking into investing in leds, I suggest starting small to test the waters. If you want to replace 10x1000w hps for example, try just replacing one (or just buy a small led for a seperate trial grow) and see how you like it. I did it this way, strarted small and saw impressive results then started expanding my led stable. Once you get growing with leds down, the results in yield can match or exceed those of equivalent hps wattage.
HiloReign
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Ah my friend, I appreciate the enthusiasm but I will be starting a thread as soon as I get the light! I will definitely point you in the right direction and leave a link on this thread afterwards! Thank you for the reply!
sandiegojack2
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It's good to see some people are still open to new ideas!! I for one sit back and think how "people look down there noses at led's and cfl's " but I don't think they just aren't willing to admit they are wrong! I will admit I was skeptical when I purchased a vegeative light 90 w ufo, and was pleasingly suprised and could see I was wrong to judge without and real knowledge. I am at least smart enough to watch these grows with great interest and realize this is the future! jack
HiloReign
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I appreciate the post, my friend. I must agree with you and also add that there are people who remain oblivious to indoor lighting beyond HPS/MH for the simple fact that they haven't been introduced to it. What do people fear most? What they don't know.
Aloha
Corso312
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i think most people just have not seen good grows with leds...leds sucked 10 years ago and were a total waste of money...nowadays is a different story..leds have surpassed hids...i am taking the led plunge in the fall .... that and people who have money invested in hps and mh lights do not want to admit they need to upgrade their lights.
HiloReign
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Glad to hear you'll be joining the party, friend! I must agree with you also! After 7 months, I have yet to find more than a handful of documented and successful LED grows. After my 7 month endeavor to find myself a light, LED fits my bill (electricity bill to be exact
) quite perfectly. Here on Hawaii island, we pay almost 4x the national average for electricity (44 cents to the national average of 11 cents) and that was what eventually sold me on LEDs.Thanks for stopping by,
Aloha
ClassAcura
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I have both 600w LED and 600w HPS. LED grows just as good if not better than HPS.
Mindmelted
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Then if they are so good ,why is it that every led grow i see there is always a bunch of supplemental lights used during flowering?
Not bashing it is a honest question.
Not bashing it is a honest question.
HiloReign
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LEDs are expensive and filling up your desired wattage/light output can cost you a pretty penny. Thus, a supplemental light can save you money. Also, depending on types of light they put out, some need supplementing. Needless to say, supplemental lighting is a different facet entirely. People have their own reasons for supplemental lighting and I'm sure just because you buy LED, doesn't mean you need to buy supplemental lighting also.
temp , over colder months/places leds alone quite often dont produce enough heat for optimal conditions in the grow room/tent you can grow under alot higher temps with leds an the plants thrive same temps with hps would leave them burnt tired an stressed
poney up the money an get advanced led or get them from eshine direct they are the best out atm IME best pen. of all the leds out atm
or wait till july this year for the next rnd of chips
i own 2 ds 300 in my veg/auto GL80L tent and now 2 x ds 600 in my 4x4 secret jardin flowering space gone is my grow room budget for this year money well spent IMO should be paid for in 4 weeks <3 dinafem critical + an there og kush is up there with the best also , canna nutes & pk , canadian xpress headmasta (same results as cannaboost 75% less cost) h&g roots excel an magic green
HiloReign
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Iris, whom sold me my 4 spot 136w LED model, has sent me test results in the form of a spreadsheet. I suppose it contains all the technical specs (I wouldn't know better) and if anyone wants to check out how my specific unit weighs in, drop me a line and I can get the info to you one way or another!